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I am too lazy to look it up, but I don't think all African nations were former colonies of European countries. If that is true, then colonialism theory of why these countries struggle can be tested, ie, are the countries that were never subject to colonial rule any better off?
 

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I am too lazy to look it up, but I don't think all African nations were former colonies of European countries. If that is true, then colonialism theory of why these countries struggle can be tested, ie, are the countries that were never subject to colonial rule any better off?

Liberia and Ethiopia are the only two never to have been considered colonized. And of course the U.S. create Liberia so I don’t know if that counts.

So you’ve got Ethiopia versus the rest of Africa.


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Isn’t that the failure of the French and the imperial administration?
The local government was not prepared to take on the responsibility of maintaining the infrastructure built up by the French. While I am by no means pro-colonialism, I will fault the corruption of many post independence countries for allowing their country to revert to pre-colonial status.
 

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Ethiopia had it's own problems with the continued civil war between native Ethiopians and Eritrians. The problem with the way Africa exists today is that it's built on borders created by colonialism instead of along tribal lines. Had Africa been allowed to evolve politically on its own, I suspect it would have been much better off.
 

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Ethiopia had it's own problems with the continued civil war between native Ethiopians and Eritrians. The problem with the way Africa exists today is that it's built on borders created by colonialism instead of along tribal lines. Had Africa been allowed to evolve politically on its own, I suspect it would have been much better off.

Same is true of the Middle East.

Also, a lot of that corruption was funded and supported by bad actors from outside the country.


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Ethiopia had it's own problems with the continued civil war between native Ethiopians and Eritrians. The problem with the way Africa exists today is that it's built on borders created by colonialism instead of along tribal lines. Had Africa been allowed to evolve politically on its own, I suspect it would have been much better off.
Does "evolve politically" mean war among tribes? Because that is how most borders have been determined all around the world.
 

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Does "evolve politically" mean war among tribes? Because that is how most borders have been determined all around the world.
Unfortunately war is usually how these things are decided. With colonialism, tribal warfare took a turn to genocide in places like Rwanda. I would wonder if borders had been drawn according to Hutu and Tsutsi tribal borders, would there have been genocide in the first place.
 

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Unfortunately war is usually how these things are decided. With colonialism, tribal warfare took a turn to genocide in places like Rwanda. I would wonder if borders had been drawn according to Hutu and Tsutsi tribal borders, would there have been genocide in the first place.
While I am not knowledgeable of this particular situation, unfortunately domination is not unique to any one continent. Whenever one group gets an advantage, they will use that advantage to expand.

Every continent had tribes who practiced genocide and slavery.

Colonialism was wrong. It no doubt changed the tragectory of those civilizations; for better or worse.
 

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Colonialism was wrong. It no doubt changed the tragectory of those civilizations; for better or worse.

So, what you're saying is, the Colonialists violated the prime directive.



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While I am not knowledgeable of this particular situation, unfortunately domination is not unique to any one continent. Whenever one group gets an advantage, they will use that advantage to expand.

Every continent had tribes who practiced genocide and slavery.

Colonialism was wrong. It no doubt changed the tragectory of those civilizations; for better or worse.

Some of the people who lived under colonialism would disagree - like I said many of my Indian friends and colleagues thank God they had the English language and a British education. So like I said before - not so black and white.
 
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Yeah no liberal indoctrination here.

https://www.themaven.net/bluelivesm...n-letters-to-congress-MlCQ4dr1xkGD2NfA7lvqFw/

Hampton, GA – A 7th Grade social studies teacher tasked with teaching his students about Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, recently gave his students an assignment to write a letter to Congress supporting gun control.

Blue Lives Matter obtained a copy of the assignment.

The assignment “topic” was listed as “You are trying to persuade lawmakers to have stricter gun laws to help prevent another school shooting from taking place.”

“For this assignment, you are writing a letter to the lawmakers of the United States. The purpose of this letter is to pressure lawmakers to have stricter gun laws in the United States. Your letter should contain at least five complete sentences. Make sure that you use proper grammatical skills when writing your letter,” read the assignment given out by social studies teacher Corey Sanders to his students at Hampton Middle School.

William Lee told Blue Lives Matter that his son brought the assignment home from school and showed it to him.

“I asked him what he had for homework that night, and he said he had to write a paper on gun control,” said Lee, who is a law enforcement officer in another county from where his son goes to school.

“I said uh oh – let me see the assignment,” the father said.

After reading his son’s homework assignment from Sanders, Lee went into the Google classroom and checked the assignments.

“I looked at it, and I told my son, ‘no, you’re not doing that assignment,’” Lee said. “Then I emailed his teacher the next day and told him that my son would not be writing that.”
 

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Some of the people who lived under colonialism would disagree - like I said many of my Indian friends and colleagues thank God they had the English language and a British education. So like I said before - not so black and white.
The real Walter Williams says something like, "Slavery was bad for my ancestors, but I benefitted from it because I got to be born in the US and not Africa." We can all agree that slavery was wrong while acknowledging that some have benefitted. Same with colonialism.
 
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The real Walter Williams says something like, "Slavery was bad for my ancestors, but I benefitted from it because I got to be born in the US and not Africa." We can all agree that slavery was wrong while acknowledging that some have benefitted. Same with colonialism.

Concur.
 
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