OT - Mason Gets $5 million Gift to School of Economics

[GMUgemini]

No we weren't. We were the british colonies ruled by the United Kingdom and Parliament. North America was a largely empty continent that was not a country. Merely a recipient of multiple waves of migrants. Europeans being one of the last (although the Vikings did have settlements in 999).

We revolted against our colonial rulers during the war for independence.

Wrong on every front there, my friend.

Here is a question for you, who was Virginia named after? By whom?

Looking objectively at history often requires us to look beyond the mythologies we have been taught.


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[Pikapppatri8]

Wrong on every front there, my friend.

Here is a question for you, who was Virginia named after? By whom?

Looking objectively at history often requires us to look beyond the mythologies we have been taught.


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You can say I am wrong but that doesn't make you right. I am quite correct on fact and history. So unless you have a point to make - I stand firm in my statement. You cannot colonize a country if there is no legally defined country there.

 

[MasonSAE4]

The offseason is f**king weird

 

[Walter]

Now he is locked in a dungeon wearing a leather gimp suit with a ball gag strapped to his mouth and shackled to a “hump” table and rented out for 100 bucks an hour to transient deviants.

Dammit Pikapp, now everyone is going to know the reward for winning the bracket challenge.

 

[phoenix-arizona]

The offseason is f*cking weird

 

[MasonSAE4]

I applaud your change to Britta and Annie

 

[GMUgemini]

You can say I am wrong but that doesn't make you right. I am quite correct on fact and history. So unless you have a point to make - I stand firm in my statement. You cannot colonize a country if there is no legally defined country there.

First of all, there were defined nations that existed in both north and South America, many with defined governments. Second, you are only focusing on the former British colonies and ignoring the vast majority of the rest of what would become the United States as colonized by the French and Spanish, third I am pretty sure the indigenous tribes of much of Africa, Australia, and the pacific islands would disagree with your assessment about it being impossible to colonize a land not defined as a “nation-state.”


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[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Looking objectively at history often requires us to look beyond the mythologies we have been taught.


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As a history scholar, what allows you to objectively gloss over other cultures' dark histories and just criticize the west?

For example, we can't celebrate Columbus Day any more, but why do liberals insist on celebrating "Indigenous People Day" when many, many Indian tribes engaged in slavery and some human sacrifice. Why do we have to beat ourselves up about the Confederacy and gloss over present day slavery in Africa?

I was a history major, but by all means don't drop the "I lecture adults like they were sixth graders because they don't agree with me" shtick. It is what makes libs so endearing. It's how Washington Post editors, who haven't endorsed a Republican for president in their modern history, can also pretend they're "objective."

 

[GMUSig03]

It's how Washington Post editors, who haven't endorsed a Republican for president in their modern history, can also pretend they're "objective."

Maybe Republican's need better nominees...

Bunch of snowflakes complaining about liberal bias over here.

 

[Pikapppatri8]

Maybe Republican's need better nominees...

Bunch of snowflakes complaining about liberal bias over here.

Or the liberals at the Washington Post need to stop supporting sub-standard and anti-American candidates. It could be their lack of judgement not the choice of Republican candidates.

 

[GreenLantern]

Am I going to have to revive the Politics thread?? I stepped away from the fray and plan to stay that way

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

Is there not a politics thread this crap can go on?

 

[Quentin Daniels]

Maybe Republican's need better nominees...

Or maybe the party that lost the election to Donald Trump does.

 

[phoenix-arizona]

Congratulations on getting to own Trump

 

[phoenix-arizona]

No one said what you are trying to say we said. I never said that these countries should have not sought independence - hell that is what we did. However, I would argue in our own case that the Anglo-Saxon philosophies that were the intellectual foundation of our independence would not have been there unless we were a British Colony. Hence the American revolution (founded on principles of the Scottish Enlightenment) was superior to the French Revolution.

The only point we made was that colonialism also had positive benefits that is even recognized by those who lived under it or those who inherited that results of recognize.

I wasn’t trying to say you were saying that. I was asking if that was what you were saying. I guess we’re in agreement then. Colonialism benefited some parts of society and had positive influences on the nations under colonialism, but also that the peoples under colonial rule were full in their rights to rebel and strike out on their own.

 

[GMUgemini]

I feel like the off-season has already jumped the shark. When is November again?


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[GMUSig03]

Or maybe the party that lost the election to Donald Trump does.

Agreed - not mutually exclusive

 

[Washingtonian]

Thought this would be a good spot for this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.544ab40f92a9

On Tuesday morning, not far from Fairfax County Circuit Court, a small group gathered, some donning gold and green buttons, some carrying handmade signs. They stood with a banner that read, “Protect public ed not private interests,” and they listened as Elizabeth Mathews spoke.

“We’re here for truth, we’re here for transparency,” Mathews, a George Mason University senior, said. “No one should be able to buy academia.”

Not long after she spoke, proceedings for a lawsuit against the George Mason University Foundation began in the courthouse nearby. A student group called Transparent GMU, which Mathews belongs to, filed the suit, as it continued to seek access to private donor agreements.

The case examines whether the George Mason University Foundation is a public body. It is about open records, although those calling for release of the agreements say it is about far more than that. Transparent GMU has been seeking agreements that involve Charles Koch and the Koch family. Koch is a billionaire industrialist who is a prominent backer of conservative political causes and a major donor to universities.

Some at George Mason, and at other campuses in the United States, have raised concerns about whether generosity from the Charles Koch Foundation constrains academic freedom.


“We are here for the public good, not to serve the interests of a few,” said Bethany Letiecq, an associate professor of human development and family science at George Mason. “We should be protecting that fervently. For me, that’s at the heart of this.”

After a recent gift from the Koch foundation, George Mason President Ángel Cabrera acknowledged that donations from the conservative philanthropists draw scrutiny but stressed his — and the school’s — commitment to maintaining a firewall between donors and professors.

 

[GMUSig03]

Thought this would be a good spot for this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.544ab40f92a9

On Tuesday morning, not far from Fairfax County Circuit Court, a small group gathered, some donning gold and green buttons, some carrying handmade signs. They stood with a banner that read, “Protect public ed not private interests,” and they listened as Elizabeth Mathews spoke.

“We’re here for truth, we’re here for transparency,” Mathews, a George Mason University senior, said. “No one should be able to buy academia.”

Not long after she spoke, proceedings for a lawsuit against the George Mason University Foundation began in the courthouse nearby. A student group called Transparent GMU, which Mathews belongs to, filed the suit, as it continued to seek access to private donor agreements.

The case examines whether the George Mason University Foundation is a public body. It is about open records, although those calling for release of the agreements say it is about far more than that. Transparent GMU has been seeking agreements that involve Charles Koch and the Koch family. Koch is a billionaire industrialist who is a prominent backer of conservative political causes and a major donor to universities.

Some at George Mason, and at other campuses in the United States, have raised concerns about whether generosity from the Charles Koch Foundation constrains academic freedom.


“We are here for the public good, not to serve the interests of a few,” said Bethany Letiecq, an associate professor of human development and family science at George Mason. “We should be protecting that fervently. For me, that’s at the heart of this.”

After a recent gift from the Koch foundation, George Mason President Ángel Cabrera acknowledged that donations from the conservative philanthropists draw scrutiny but stressed his — and the school’s — commitment to maintaining a firewall between donors and professors.

Wish I had known about this, was at the courthouse on Tuesday.

Looks like the case was filed last May, there were a couple preliminary motions by GMU to dismiss the suit based on the pleadings, but the Trial was held on 4/24 and the case was taken under advisement.

 

[Pikapppatri8]

Thought this would be a good spot for this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...90efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.544ab40f92a9

On Tuesday morning, not far from Fairfax County Circuit Court, a small group gathered, some donning gold and green buttons, some carrying handmade signs. They stood with a banner that read, “Protect public ed not private interests,” and they listened as Elizabeth Mathews spoke.

“We’re here for truth, we’re here for transparency,” Mathews, a George Mason University senior, said. “No one should be able to buy academia.”

Not long after she spoke, proceedings for a lawsuit against the George Mason University Foundation began in the courthouse nearby. A student group called Transparent GMU, which Mathews belongs to, filed the suit, as it continued to seek access to private donor agreements.

The case examines whether the George Mason University Foundation is a public body. It is about open records, although those calling for release of the agreements say it is about far more than that. Transparent GMU has been seeking agreements that involve Charles Koch and the Koch family. Koch is a billionaire industrialist who is a prominent backer of conservative political causes and a major donor to universities.

Some at George Mason, and at other campuses in the United States, have raised concerns about whether generosity from the Charles Koch Foundation constrains academic freedom.


“We are here for the public good, not to serve the interests of a few,” said Bethany Letiecq, an associate professor of human development and family science at George Mason. “We should be protecting that fervently. For me, that’s at the heart of this.”

After a recent gift from the Koch foundation, George Mason President Ángel Cabrera acknowledged that donations from the conservative philanthropists draw scrutiny but stressed his — and the school’s — commitment to maintaining a firewall between donors and professors.

Would these "protestors" be concerned about a donation from George Soros or a big rich liberal? Or are they only concerned about donations from libertarians?

I am confused here. Mason has received donations from a variety of sources -- but they care about this one.