2023 Transfer Portal Thread

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I'm a sucker for guards, so I'd have to go with Maddox and Cornish. I'm too indecisive.

Cornish was hurt so I dont' think he showed off what he could do at UMD and is obviously looking for an opportunity to do so. With a few years still left, a 6'6 guard who creates his own shot and has good length always sounds good to me. I only watched a few minutes, but I really liked what I saw.

On the flip side, Maddox, someone who has already played a lot at VT, and knows what it takes to win at a high level is another excellent choice. 6'5 guard, who is very talented and could really help bring some wins to Mason with his last two (?) years of eligibility. To me he is the most proven commodity of the 3. Kid can really shoot.

Both of these guys have the length and ability to compete at the A10 level. Maddox is more proven whereas Cornish is all "potential".

I'd put Hall just below these two. I don't really have a reason why, but I also like the sound of a 6'7 guard who can play inside and out. I think he is just scratching the surface as well and would be another excellent add. He hasn't played as much as a Maddox, but he showed a lot of ability in his limited minutes.

Either way, adding any of these guys are pieces so that Tony and the program needs to have a competitive and successful first year.
 
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Jesse Zarzuela's college career may be the most interesting one in history:

2018-19 - UTEP (redshirted)
2019-20 - Navarro College (JUCO)
2020-21 - Missouri State West Plains (JUCO)
2021-22 - Coppin State
2022-23 - Central Michigan
2023-24 - ??????

He's a Houston native and had a LA Tech offer coming out of HS. Skinn and Ekanem are both familiar.
 

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Jesse Zarzuela's college career may be the most interesting one in history:

2018-19 - UTEP (redshirted)
2019-20 - Navarro College (JUCO)
2020-21 - Missouri State West Plains (JUCO)
2021-22 - Coppin State
2022-23 - Central Michigan
2023-24 - ??????

He's a Houston native and had a LA Tech offer coming out of HS. Skinn and Ekanem are both familiar.
Would he have 2 years of eligibility because he'd be grad transferring and then he has a covid year?

Somewhere Andrei Semenov smiles.
 

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You would think with a highly regarded law school someone would make it project to argue and get some extra eligibility for our players....

Hell I would love for it to be for Semenov just for the pure joy of seeing a 40 year old man still playing college ball cause an attorney argued he had extra years because of asylum seeking or something.
 

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you cite Miller and Kolek, why not cite the other players who left the program last year. Did they end up at P-6 programs? Are they playing in the NBA or professionally elsewhere?

At all level - 2000 players in the portal - simply not enough scholarships to go around. It is basketball musical chairs - the top 100 or so will do fine, but the average player will not.
I cited them because they are the 2 current Mason transfers that ended up at P-6 programs. They also highlight the flaws and bias of the article.

I think all of our transfers ended up in a better situation and/or were encouraged to leave.

My point - we blame the players for the transfer portal numbers, but maybe we should blame the coaches.
 

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If (and it’s a big if at this point) Tony can close on 3-4 of the guys Mason has been connected with in the portal, this could be a very interesting team next season.

Hall is my No. 1 target because of his size and versatility, he can step right in at the 4 in an up-tempo 4-guard system and at 6-7, 240 still hold his own on the glass.

Dream scenario for me is Mason gets Hall, Billups, Cornish and either Maddox or Zarzuela, and adds Kelly to complement Malik at the 5. That would be pretty amazing considering the current state of the roster.
 

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That would also allow Tony to bring an incoming freshman like Torey Alston and give him time to develop/get in the weight room without the pressure of having to play major minutes right away. I have a feeling that kid is gonna be a terrific college player, just scratching the surface of his natural ability.
 

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You would think with a highly regarded law school someone would make it project to argue and get some extra eligibility for our players....

Hell I would love for it to be for Semenov just for the pure joy of seeing a 40 year old man still playing college ball cause an attorney argued he had extra years because of asylum seeking or something.
There was an NCAA proposal - and i don't know the current status - to grant an additional year of eligibility to any player who completes their undergraduate degree in 4 years - obviously this would not apply to those with NBA prospects, but that and NIL would likely keep some skilled players in the NCAA.
 

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There was an NCAA proposal - and i don't know the current status - to grant an additional year of eligibility to any player who completes their undergraduate degree in 4 years - obviously this would not apply to those with NBA prospects, but that and NIL would likely keep some skilled players in the NCAA.
That would either create more transfers, result in fewer incoming freshman with scholarships, or both.
 

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I’m not as knowledgeable as some of the transfers as others in here — question for y’all is are any of them someone we can build an offense around? Because that seems to be our biggest need, right now we don’t really have a center piece for the offense to build around. We need a primary scoring option. Like others have said Cornish has a ton of potential to be that guy, but if you are a first year head coach do you gamble your first season on it? Not as knowledgeable on either Maddox or Hall, gonna have to do some research tonight.
 

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I honestly will be impressed if in 2 weeks Skinn can do something English couldn't do in 2 years...get a point guard.
Devin Dinkins, while he hasn't shown he can be a legit point guard in the A10 (only glimpses) was recruited as a PG and was Kim's first recruit. So I'm not sure I follow here.

I’m not as knowledgeable as some of the transfers as others in here — question for y’all is are any of them someone we can build an offense around? Because that seems to be our biggest need, right now we don’t really have a center piece for the offense to build around. We need a primary scoring option. Like others have said Cornish has a ton of potential to be that guy, but if you are a first year head coach do you gamble your first season on it? Not as knowledgeable on either Maddox or Hall, gonna have to do some research tonight.
Right now you have Polite who is returning who averaged 11.5 per game so obviously hes probably going to be a big piece. On paper, unless Mason gets a guy who scored more than that, he will be our top returning option.

In regards to the other ones, it'll probably be more organic to see who can really score but you have a guy like Hall who averaged almost 6 points a game in averaging 10 minutes a game. Darius Maddox averaged 8.5 points a game, so if he comes, he would also be an option as well. Jesse Zarzuela averaged almost 17 points a game, so he too would be an option if he comes to Mason. We obviously need at least a few guys who can really score.
 

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I’m not as knowledgeable as some of the transfers as others in here — question for y’all is are any of them someone we can build an offense around? Because that seems to be our biggest need, right now we don’t really have a center piece for the offense to build around. We need a primary scoring option. Like others have said Cornish has a ton of potential to be that guy, but if you are a first year head coach do you gamble your first season on it? Not as knowledgeable on either Maddox or Hall, gonna have to do some research tonight.
or do we get a 4 to 5 guys - generating 60 points per game, with the highest averaging 15 points/game in a balanced offense approach?

Henry, Polite and 3 starting transfers
 
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