Fire Dave Paulsen / Hire Tony Skinn

[gmujim92]

I can be "committed" to running and winning a marathon, but it doesn't mean I'm capable of doing it. Recruiting is pretty easy to assess when it gets down to it. Do you win with the players that you brought in? If no, it's either because your not a good enough coach or the players simply weren't good enough.

There’s a third option but nobody wants to hear it.

 

[GSII]

If BE supports Dave then let's see an extension after this season is over or before. You wanna talk the talk then walk the walk Bradford Edwards.

 

[Patriot Lawdog]

There’s a third option but nobody wants to hear it.

If the third option has anything to do with injuries, then, yep, I don't want to hear it. Part of recruiting is roster management. Having zero depth because of injuries is a part of that. If I were to look on the bright side, I would say that many guys this year have had to take on increased roles and that will benefit us next year, but I can't say that with a straight face given what I've witnessed the past 5 years. Guys playing well in an increased role and then regressing the next year. It's the number one reason I'm just not very hopeful for next year.

 

[tblack33]

That's hard to say but you're probably right. But I do want to address the "picked 9th" comment because we've heard that kind of thing a lot. This is not specifically an argument with you, in fact I know you agree with most or all of what I'm about to say. You just brought up something I've thought about.

DP supporters early on pointed to how he kept exceeding expectations, but those expectations were set by pollsters who don't respect our program. Private comments have been made about us not belonging in the league and completely botching the post-final-four opportunity. Those same people who make those comments vote us low, one or two players exceed expectations, and the program finishes a little higher. Did we exceed expectations because the coaches did a good job, or just because the bar was set too low? The first time we finished lower than projected was last year, right? Not a coincidence that it's the one year the pollsters actually gave us some respect. As you could see from this year's polls, they're not making that mistake again.

This year 9th looked like an insult and then we were even worse. But I'd like to believe our fully healthy roster (which pollsters were assuming when they made their predictions) would have actually finished higher than 9th. I don't want to rehash an argument we've already had, and that we can never prove: I know some of you feel we'd still be between 9th and 12th with those guys. If you feel that way, you're guessing. I respect your guess. But you can't prove it because we can't replay the season with Kier and Boyd.

My guess is that, all other things being equal, our healthy roster finishes either 7th or 8th this year. Right above or right below Davidson. I can't prove it either. But of my guess were right, we exceeded expectations but still suck. Supporters of the coach point to us exceeding expectations yet again. Critics still have plenty to criticize. Round and round we go.

There's no real point to all of this, except let's stop even talking about where we were "picked." It just makes everything even more confusing and/or depressing.

I tend to agree with this but for different reasons. Year in year out the middle of the pack A10 is such a dogfight I think it really doesn’t matter where you are picked/end up outside of the bottom 4 top 3-4. We’ve seen so many times seeding come down to tie breakers/1 game. The difference between 9-5 most years so minuscule it really doesn’t matter. This year seems like the first year we didn’t have a 4 team logjam at 5th or 6th place.

 

[gmujim92]

If the third option has anything to do with injuries, then, yep, I don't want to hear it. Part of recruiting is roster management. Having zero depth because of injuries is a part of that. If I were to look on the bright side, I would say that many guys this year have had to take on increased roles and that will benefit us next year, but I can't say that with a straight face given what I've witnessed the past 5 years. Guys playing well in an increased role and then regressing the next year. It's the number one reason I'm just not very hopeful for next year.

I don’t really think this is accurate but I don’t care enough at this point to argue about it.

 

[By George.]

I don’t really think this is accurate but I don’t care enough at this point to argue about it.

He’s officially too tired to debate. WOW

 

[GMUgemini]

I don’t really think this is accurate but I don’t care enough at this point to argue about it.

The injuries hurt, yes, but that still doesn’t excuse the lack of a starting 5. Even if everyone is healthy, that just means a logjam at the 2 and 3 spots and no depth at the 4 and 5 spots.

 

[gmujim92]

He’s officially too tired to debate. WOW

I turned 50 yesterday, so yeah, I’m old and tired now.

 

[GSII]

I turned 50 yesterday, so yeah, I’m old and tired now.

Happy Birthday Jim. Cheers!

 

[mason89]

I turned 50 yesterday, so yeah, I’m old and tired now.

Welcome to the club, Jim! It's only downhill from here...

 

[Walter]

Rumors that UNCW is going to the young Keatts coaching tree by naming his assistant Siddle.

 

[Five Two]

What if you are a school who was waiting for their season to end before letting their coach go. How long to do you wait until you announce that decision, two weeks?

 

[gmubrian]

What if you are a school who was waiting for their season to end before letting their coach go. How long to do you wait until you announce that decision, two weeks?

Why wait. Hopefully we, I mean they, pull the trigger immediately to get the jump on the market. Don’t want to pull a TOC and have to go looking for a coach after all the hot prospects were already locked up.

 

[Falco]

What if you are a school who was waiting for their season to end before letting their coach go. How long to do you wait until you announce that decision, two weeks?

I would pull the trigger now while everyone is to busy worrying. You won’t get the potential backlash (talking general terms, and not specifically DP)

 

[Falco]

Watching the Mason vs St Joes game. So far Mar looks pretty good! I think Mar plays better with his back to the basket. He looked like a star his freshman year when paulsen used him as a center. Obviously he’s not a center, but he should be Wilson’s replacement off the bench.

 

[Falco]

https://giantkiller.co/2019/11/06/d...ontract-emerge-including-an-attendance-bonus/

“In short, Paulsen has received more bonuses for Mason’s performance in the classroom than on the court.”

 

[patriot2000]

https://giantkiller.co/2019/11/06/d...ontract-emerge-including-an-attendance-bonus/

“In short, Paulsen has received more bonuses for Mason’s performance in the classroom than on the court.”

That's not the worst thing in the world but, yeah, I can see your frustration on that.

 

[Mason32]

https://giantkiller.co/2019/11/06/d...ontract-emerge-including-an-attendance-bonus/

“In short, Paulsen has received more bonuses for Mason’s performance in the classroom than on the court.”

Winning off the court

 

[mkaufman1]

It is definitely frustrating that he is hitting the off court bonuses primarily.

I'm beginning to wonder if all they want is a nice team of nice kids that graduate to represent the university or if they really want to win. The first is nice, but it'd be nice to win and be competitive too. I am probably just being a skeptical/miserable fan by asking that.

The next 12-18 months will really tell us once again what the program is going to be.

 

[sleeperpick]

It is definitely frustrating that he is hitting the off court bonuses primarily.

I'm beginning to wonder if all they want is a nice team of nice kids that graduate to represent the university or if they really want to win. The first is nice, but it'd be nice to win and be competitive too. I am probably just being a skeptical/miserable fan by asking that.

The next 12-18 months will really tell us once again what the program is going to be.

eh donations already WAY down. they will be even worse if we stay not competitive in league. If AJ transfers and Paulsen stays I am out until we find a new coach. They can kiss my couple grand per year goodbye. Not a lot but obviously I am not the first to do so thru reading their own data.