2200 days of Brad Edwards

[MasonSAE4]

Regarding Soccer:


I've been hearing variations of this since the 1980s. Will. Not. Happen.



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Disagree. I'm 25 and I've noticed a massive shift towards the mainstream. When I was growing up you had to subscribe to premium channels to watch the Premier League, and even then you would probably only get one live game a week and you had to hope it was your team. Now every game is broadcast live on main channels. Youth leagues have also become much more accessible.

Will it ever catch football or basketball? Not likely, at least not for a good long time. But I think it's going to siphon some support from baseball and hockey. I also think that Mason's demographics make it really well situated to get a lot of students out if they have a good program and a top end stadium.

 

[Vurbel]

Before we throw down $75million, I want to know more than "probably."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-is-to-start-a-fbs-college-football-program/

But we could do it small like Winthrop, which is $11million for facilities, $500,000 to start, then $1.7million - $3.3million every year to operate.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/24873480/new-study-outlines-cost-of-football-team-at-winthrop-university

We saw how long it took to get a practice gym for the basketball team. Imagine if we had to raise an extra $2-$3million/year in addition to the $11million-plus for start up fees. I would love to have football, I just don't see how we can fiscally do it without cutting in a lot of other places.

 

[Five Two]

Should we rename this thread "yet another football discussion" or "Three Years of Brad Edwards"?

 

[GSII]

Is odu better with football?

 

[Falco]

Is odu better with football?

yes.

 

[Vurbel]

yes.

How? And something concrete.

 

[Falco]

In 2003 ODU's endowment was 100 million. They voted to have football in 2005. first game in 2009. by 2010 endowment was 144 million. Today, 213 million.

In comparison Mason has an endowment of 73 million

 

[Vurbel]

In 2003 ODU's endowment was 100 million. They voted to have football in 2005. first game in 2009. by 2010 endowment was 144 million. Today, 213 million.

In comparison Mason has an endowment of 73 million

Again, if we can figure out a way to pay for it, without compromising anything else, I'm all for it.

 

[Falco]

Again, if we can figure out a way to pay for it, without compromising anything else, I'm all for it.

Football is a funny thing for Universities. On paper 95% of schools lose money due to their football team. But like we see with ODU, the endownment grew rapidly. Was that a result of football, I think many would argue yes. The more connected one feel's to their school, the more likely they are to donate. More merchandise sold, more food sold, more hotel rooms booked.

I'm not saying football brings in money, my point is its hard to quantify. Guaranteed if you were to ask 5 economist how much money football contributes to a university, you would get 5 different answers.

 

[Vurbel]

The thing is people in Northern Virginia are used to the best. The best cars, the best houses, Fairfax County is the second wealthiest county in the country. Is there really a market to see a college football team play non-elite schools? We aren't playing Alabama or Ohio State. Best case scenario we get James Madison, whoopty do.

 

[Falco]

The thing is people in Northern Virginia are used to the best. The best cars, the best houses, Fairfax County is the second wealthiest county in the country. Is there really a market to see a college football team play non-elite schools? We aren't playing Alabama or Ohio State. Best case scenario we get James Madison, whoopty do.

Fair point, Frenso State was paid $1.4 million to play Alabama. Yeah its an expected a** whooping, but still a ton of money! $)

 

[Walter]

I wouldn't want Mason to be one of those teams that the Alabama fans laugh at.

 

[Falco]

I wouldn't want Mason to be one of those teams that the Alabama fans laugh at.

Well first Alabama fans laugh at every team they play. 2nd Louisville is paying to laugh at us. Hopefully they regret their decision, but that's their expectation.

But we could also be JMU and crush ECU and take their money. Howard stole UNLV's money. Liberty stole Baylor's money.

 

[Falco]

Even though, I obviously want football. I apologize for the comments. This is a basketball thread haha.

 

[GMUgemini]

In 2003 ODU's endowment was 100 million. They voted to have football in 2005. first game in 2009. by 2010 endowment was 144 million. Today, 213 million.

In comparison Mason has an endowment of 73 million

Can't attribute the endowment growth necessarily to football. vcu's endowment is $1.6 billion (it grew 203% in 2013 due to restructuring of assets). JMU's is $80 million.

 

[MasonSAE4]

In 2003 ODU's endowment was 100 million. They voted to have football in 2005. first game in 2009. by 2010 endowment was 144 million. Today, 213 million.

In comparison Mason has an endowment of 73 million

Not arguing your point, I actually agree with you that with Mason's general disconnect from alumni a football team would probably be a net positive. But I could've sworn somewhere in the last year the school announced the endowment was closer to $200 million now. Trying to find the source. I know I posted it here somewhere but going back months on these boards is like having flashbacks to 'Nam.

 

[MasonFanatic]

I hear lots of alumni (the casual fan types) complain about the quality of teams we play in basketball.

That problem is only going to be worse in football.

 

[mkaufman1]

So now in the third year under Brad

Practice Facility
Video Scoreboard
New Lights

In addition to yearly surveys to fans, and everything he did after a year or two. Pretty good to me, next up will be the locker rooms, phase 2 of the practice facility, and maybe a plan for a full upgrade to the arena?

 

[Cedric Dempsey]

Before we throw down $75million, I want to know more than "probably."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-is-to-start-a-fbs-college-football-program/

But we could do it small like Winthrop, which is $11million for facilities, $500,000 to start, then $1.7million - $3.3million every year to operate.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/24873480/new-study-outlines-cost-of-football-team-at-winthrop-university

We saw how long it took to get a practice gym for the basketball team. Imagine if we had to raise an extra $2-$3million/year in addition to the $11million-plus for start up fees. I would love to have football, I just don't see how we can fiscally do it without cutting in a lot of other places.

You can't do football w/o significant student subsidies. Why not finish your practice facility?

 

[GMUgemini]

I hear lots of alumni (the casual fan types) complain about the quality of teams we play in basketball.

That problem is only going to be worse in football.

Assuming these "casual fans" only know about 8 basketball teams?