2200 days of Brad Edwards

Vurbel

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I can't wait for Mason Madness! Why do I have a feeling it is going to be even more special than usual?
 

Five Two

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Brad is now on the Board of the Military Bowl
Let the speculation begin that this means we'll have I-A football in 5 years..........
 

Vurbel

Hall of Famer
Brad is now on the Board of the Military Bowl
Let the speculation begin that this means we'll have I-A football in 5 years..........

Are there really 50,000 people in Northern Virginia who are going to spend their Saturday afternoon going to a George Mason football game? It's not like we're in Harrisonburg where there's nothing else going on.
 

GMUSig03

All-Conference
Are there really 50,000 people in Northern Virginia who are going to spend their Saturday afternoon going to a George Mason football game? It's not like we're in Harrisonburg where there's nothing else going on.

Ap. St. has a capacity of only 24,000, Duke has capacity of 40K and rarely, if ever, sells out. Don't quite need those numbers, but you are right that we will need 10's of thousands to attend regularly to make it worthwhile.
 

The Great PATSby

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Ap. St. has a capacity of only 24,000, Duke has capacity of 40K and rarely, if ever, sells out. Don't quite need those numbers, but you are right that we will need 10's of thousands to attend regularly to make it worthwhile.

Well then you and Mrs. Shannon need to hurry up and start popping out Baby #2, #3, #4, #5...etc so we can fill up the stands.
 

Vurbel

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Ap. St. has a capacity of only 24,000, Duke has capacity of 40K and rarely, if ever, sells out. Don't quite need those numbers, but you are right that we will need 10's of thousands to attend regularly to make it worthwhile.

I hate to be Johnny Raincloud on this, but...

App St. should be embarrassed they only get 24,000. There is absolutely nothing to do in Boone, NC. Nothing. It makes Harrisonburg looking like a "happening place". They have zero competition, besides the new WalMart in town.

Duke has an athletic budget that's $41million more that ours. They also have Clemson, Florida State, and Miami come to town.

So it's apples and oranges.

The only colleges around here in our market that are somewhat similar to us is Georgetown, GW, and maybe Marymount, but they're D3. However, you could make the argument that best case scenario we would be on Howard's level, who I didn't even know had a team until a few months ago.
 

GMUSig03

All-Conference
I hate to be Johnny Raincloud on this, but...

App St. should be embarrassed they only get 24,000. There is absolutely nothing to do in Boone, NC. Nothing. It makes Harrisonburg looking like a "happening place". They have zero competition, besides the new WalMart in town.

Duke has an athletic budget that's $41million more that ours. They also have Clemson, Florida State, and Miami come to town.

So it's apples and oranges.

The only colleges around here in our market that are somewhat similar to us is Georgetown, GW, and maybe Marymount, but they're D3. However, you could make the argument that best case scenario we would be on Howard's level, who I didn't even know had a team until a few months ago.

Just to be devil's advocate, I would counter that Ap. State is FAR from embarrassed about their football situation. Ask any Ap. State alum. My point was simply that having attendance of 50k is not a must.

You have a pretty good point about Duke's overall budget being able to offset the costs (losses) associated with football, though. I think it all comes down to money, but there is enough population/interest/recruiting talent in this area to support a team, but it has to be done right (ie - full DI within a reasonable amount of time) and won't be easy or cheap.

Closest competition for big time football in this area is Fed Ex field on the other side of the beltway, where people hate going and are continuously supporting less and less.
 

Vurbel

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Just to be devil's advocate, I would counter that Ap. State is FAR from embarrassed about their football situation. Ask any Ap. State alum. My point was simply that having attendance of 50k is not a must.

You have a pretty good point about Duke's overall budget being able to offset the costs (losses) associated with football, though. I think it all comes down to money, but there is enough population/interest/recruiting talent in this area to support a team, but it has to be done right (ie - full DI within a reasonable amount of time) and won't be easy or cheap.

Closest competition for big time football in this area is Fed Ex field on the other side of the beltway, where people hate going and are continuously supporting less and less.

I believe I heard, as of 5 years ago, that only 5-6 colleges actually MADE money on football. Of course, that doesn't include school publicity, additional enrollment, etc. It's just the money brought in through tickets, sponsors, vendors, etc. is greater than football expenditures like scholarships, staff salary, etc.

I think the schools were Alabama, Penn St., Ohio St., Michigan, and Texas.
 

GMUSig03

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I believe I heard, as of 5 years ago, that only 5-6 colleges actually MADE money on football. Of course, that doesn't include school publicity, additional enrollment, etc. It's just the money brought in through tickets, sponsors, vendors, etc. is greater than football expenditures like scholarships, staff salary, etc.

I think the schools were Alabama, Penn St., Ohio St., Michigan, and Texas.

I'm not surprised by that at all. I would assume the hope would be to be as close to cost neutral as possible, and any financial costs being a trade off for increased atmosphere/interest in school/etc.

Wonder if the proposed new soccer stadium would be able to accommodate football as well (I think the scheduling should be workable for all 3 teams), with ability to expand in future if expansion is warranted.
 
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