2019 Recruiting

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If we are to host Adams-Woods on an offical, we may need some of you to fill in as assistant coaches so the kid dont feel like he is visiting an abandoned program.
 

gmujim92

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If we are to host Adams-Woods on an offical, we may need some of you to fill in as assistant coaches so the kid dont feel like he is visiting an abandoned program.

Talk about an abandoned program — he just went to UMass. They only have about half a roster and a whole new crew of assistant coaches coming in. By comparison, Mason is a paragon of stability.
 
if Dave can't sell Mika Adams-Woods that we have beaten Matt McCall's a** time and time again despite a midget lineup compared to his horses, then we have a systemic failure in place. What is Dave against McCall, 5-0?
 

FreeGunston12

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if Dave can't sell Mika Adams-Woods that we have beaten Matt McCall's a** time and time again despite a midget lineup compared to his horses, then we have a systemic failure in place. What is Dave against McCall, 5-0?
Yes, but don’t discount the amount of playing time available at UMass right now. Starting day 1 there may sound a lot better to him than competing for his minutes here.
 

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Both programs look anemic for different reasons. But still look anemic.
 

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Yes, but don’t discount the amount of playing time available at UMass right now. Starting day 1 there may sound a lot better to him than competing for his minutes here.

Well, like I said before, there is no incumbent starter at PG. If he can beat out Xavier Johnson and Jamal Hartwell for playing time, it is there. Next year Kier and Boyd graduate, which leaves even more time on the wings (he’s 6’3, so I could see starting 2 PGs).
 

FreeGunston12

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Well, like I said before, there is no incumbent starter at PG. If he can beat out Xavier Johnson and Jamal Hartwell for playing time, it is there. Next year Kier and Boyd graduate, which leaves even more time on the wings (he’s 6’3, so I could see starting 2 PGs).
True. I just think playing time is an angle that McCall can take advantage of. He can also point to the opportunity to play with a 4 star post man for 4 years. And I know we don’t think much of recruiting rankings, but they mean a whole lot to these prospects.

The real point is: if Adams-Woods chooses UMass over Mason, we shouldn’t overstate it as a failure on DP’s part. As long as we continue to beat them in games and finish ahead of them in the standings, who cares?
 

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Back to back 5th place finishes is not “anemic.” And stop comparing us to UMass, which is in the toilet where we were five years ago.

The difference is we hired a good basketball coach, not a Jared Kushner stunt double.

Relax. Im talking about how we have no assistants in the house. Which is similar to Umass but for different reasons.
 

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True. I just think playing time is an angle that McCall can take advantage of. He can also point to the opportunity to play with a 4 star post man for 4 years. And I know we don’t think much of recruiting rankings, but they mean a whole lot to these prospects.

The real point is: if Adams-Woods chooses UMass over Mason, we shouldn’t overstate it as a failure on DP’s part. As long as we continue to beat them in games and finish ahead of them in the standings, who cares?


Eh...I dunno. I judge recruiting (mostly) on who we beat out. And b/c DP went to see this kid in person makes it important for a recruiting victory. DP went. Not an assistant.
 

gmujim92

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Eh...I dunno. I judge recruiting (mostly) on who we beat out. And b/c DP went to see this kid in person makes it important for a recruiting victory. DP went. Not an assistant.

Yeah he clearly wants the kid. Hope he gets him.
 

dr. gunnie

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Eh...I dunno. I judge recruiting (mostly) on who we beat out. And b/c DP went to see this kid in person makes it important for a recruiting victory. DP went. Not an assistant.

Well, it's not like we had a lot of assistants that could have made the trip!
 

FreeGunston12

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Eh...I dunno. I judge recruiting (mostly) on who we beat out. And b/c DP went to see this kid in person makes it important for a recruiting victory. DP went. Not an assistant.
Recruiting is a component of roster-building. There are lots of parts that shouldn’t be overlooked, like accurate evaluation of talent, fit, character, etc. I’ve seen this notion floated around the boards that it’s all about who you beat. Consider the examples from our current roster:

DP beat out vcu, Penn St, UCF, Nevada for AJ Wilson. Impressive.

He beat out Nebraska, Iowa St, DePaul for Goanar Mar. Also impressive.

He beat out Radford, Longwood, Coastal Carolina for Justin Kier. Not so impressive.

Coastal Carolina, Georgia St, Alcorn St wanted Javon Greene. Not impressive.

Catawba, Towson, Radford wanted Jordan Miller. Not impressive.

It’s not all about who you beat out. Furthermore, fit is incredibly important. SLU beat out Kansas, Texas, Cincinatti for Carte’Are Gordon. What good is that doing them? McCall beat DP out for Tre Wood. Nothing gained for them now. DP lost Akien Frederick to Kent St a couple years ago. He averaged something like 4 and 3 while eating a scholarship for 2 years.

Now, DP clearly wants Adams-Woods. I hope he gets his man. But we can’t judge him as a recruiter/roster-builder solely off who he beats out for a recruit. We should judge him as a recruiter based on his roster. And yes, it has holes. I have no problem with you saying that. From my perspective, it’s much more due to missing on big men (Reuter, Temara, Dixon, Relvao) than to losing battles to the likes of UMass. So I would argue that hitting on Oduro is the most important piece to evaluate DP on in this recruiting class.
 
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