Welcome Justin Kier

[Dawgs99]

Hahah good point. But, I wouldn't rule anything out. How many times have we been surprised with recruiting?

UVA just received a commitment from a Rice transfer and has no more available scholarships.

 

[smccart5]

Best choices off of Kier's top 10 (my opinion) would obviously love him to come back to Mason 100%. Also doesn't take into account future transfers each team would have.

Butler: A They lost Baldwin to graduation and Battle to transfer so the minutes for Kier are there. They return a very decent team next year that should compete for postseason play provided they recruit some more depth. Guard position is pretty thin not including Aaron Thompson. I love the fit and think this should be 1st choice.
Wake: A-. This is not because I hope he goes here. Wake will suck next year... But they have a hole the size of Paulsen's belly at the SG position next year. He also will get the play in the ACC market against the best teams in the country night in night out. I like the fit even though I am dead sure he won't see a postseason tournament. Not too far away from family either.
Auburn: A- Would be the only senior on a very young but talented Tigers team. 1 5 star and 2 4 star young ins coming into the program that returns Okoro. This team screams surprise team in the SEC to me next year and I like their tournament chances. Has a chance to start right away with talented young blood around him.
Ole Miss: B- Decent basketball team returns with a log jam in the SG/SF area. Not a ton of minutes to go around with some pretty decent players. This team is not going to be much of a NCAA tournament threat. Kermit Davis is a great coach and is turning them around so I may be dead wrong about no tourney.
Arkansas: C- great coach in Musselman but they are very guard heavy already with a really good PG Isaiah Joe. Currently are -1 in available scholarships without Kier and I just don't see a fit. Not a shoe in to make the tournament next year by any means.They have 2 really good freshman guards coming in and unless that changes Kier shouldn't go there.
Georgetown: C- Clusterf*ck squad by Patrick Ewing. Ongoing rape and home invasion allegations that saw 3 players transfer and Mac McClung enter the draft early (WTF). Tons of mins to go around for Kier if he decides to go here but the team is full of holes and I am not sure they win more than 5 Big East games next year. Ewing will be gone after the season.
Georgia B Very athletic squad that should but hasn't yet lost Anthony Edwards to the draft. Would have a chance to start right away but I do not like their chances at a NCAA tourney next year. Currently 0 scholarships available but I expect them to get one open. Not a basketball school.
Mason: B Familiar with the programs and all its ups and downs. Immediately becomes 1st or 2nd best player if injury heals correctly. Odds aren't high to make the tournament and he plays in the A10 with a lack of exposure if he does want to play basketball professionally after graduation.
NC St: C+ Keats coaches a weird style of basketball and is odd when passing out minutes. I have never been a fan of us. The GOAT Danny Dixon might help NC St's chances of landing Kier but I don't see this happening. They have 5 freshman coming in and will be extremely young with mostly unproven big men. Team is currently not nearly talented enough to truly compete in the ACC next year and Kier won't tip that scale. Lost Markell Johnson who was far and away their best player.
Minnesota: B This team needs a ton of guard play to help this season and they just lost Oturu to transfer so I think they go heavy after Udeze from Wichita St with their last open scholarship. I don't think this fits as Pitino desperately needs another big man. Next years Minnesota team should not be in the tournament.

TLDR

Best choices:
Butler, Wake, Auburn, Georgia, Mason

I appreciate the effort that went into this post

 

[PoorManProfit]

I believe Crean and DP are very good friends.

Makes sense. Both tools.

 

[IzzyWikis]

Best choices off of Kier's top 10 (my opinion) would obviously love him to come back to Mason 100%. Also doesn't take into account future transfers each team would have.

Butler: A They lost Baldwin to graduation and Battle to transfer so the minutes for Kier are there. They return a very decent team next year that should compete for postseason play provided they recruit some more depth. Guard position is pretty thin not including Aaron Thompson. I love the fit and think this should be 1st choice.
Wake: A-. This is not because I hope he goes here. Wake will suck next year... But they have a hole the size of Paulsen's belly at the SG position next year. He also will get the play in the ACC market against the best teams in the country night in night out. I like the fit even though I am dead sure he won't see a postseason tournament. Not too far away from family either.
Auburn: A- Would be the only senior on a very young but talented Tigers team. 1 5 star and 2 4 star young ins coming into the program that returns Okoro. This team screams surprise team in the SEC to me next year and I like their tournament chances. Has a chance to start right away with talented young blood around him.
Ole Miss: B- Decent basketball team returns with a log jam in the SG/SF area. Not a ton of minutes to go around with some pretty decent players. This team is not going to be much of a NCAA tournament threat. Kermit Davis is a great coach and is turning them around so I may be dead wrong about no tourney.
Arkansas: C- great coach in Musselman but they are very guard heavy already with a really good PG Isaiah Joe. Currently are -1 in available scholarships without Kier and I just don't see a fit. Not a shoe in to make the tournament next year by any means.They have 2 really good freshman guards coming in and unless that changes Kier shouldn't go there.
Georgetown: C- Clusterf*ck squad by Patrick Ewing. Ongoing rape and home invasion allegations that saw 3 players transfer and Mac McClung enter the draft early (WTF). Tons of mins to go around for Kier if he decides to go here but the team is full of holes and I am not sure they win more than 5 Big East games next year. Ewing will be gone after the season.
Georgia B Very athletic squad that should but hasn't yet lost Anthony Edwards to the draft. Would have a chance to start right away but I do not like their chances at a NCAA tourney next year. Currently 0 scholarships available but I expect them to get one open. Not a basketball school.
Mason: B Familiar with the programs and all its ups and downs. Immediately becomes 1st or 2nd best player if injury heals correctly. Odds aren't high to make the tournament and he plays in the A10 with a lack of exposure if he does want to play basketball professionally after graduation.
NC St: C+ Keats coaches a weird style of basketball and is odd when passing out minutes. I have never been a fan of us. The GOAT Danny Dixon might help NC St's chances of landing Kier but I don't see this happening. They have 5 freshman coming in and will be extremely young with mostly unproven big men. Team is currently not nearly talented enough to truly compete in the ACC next year and Kier won't tip that scale. Lost Markell Johnson who was far and away their best player.
Minnesota: B This team needs a ton of guard play to help this season and they just lost Oturu to transfer so I think they go heavy after Udeze from Wichita St with their last open scholarship. I don't think this fits as Pitino desperately needs another big man. Next years Minnesota team should not be in the tournament.

TLDR

Best choices:
Butler, Wake, Auburn, Georgia, Mason

I'm a Butler season ticket holder and completely agree with the Butler transfer option. I'd love to see Kier finish out his career at Hinkle if it's not going to be at Mason. He'd be an instant leader on a young Butler squad.

 

[GSII]

When does Kier need to decide by?

 

[tblack33]

When does Kier need to decide by?

Start of next season. Realistically next week and a half.

 

[gmujim92]

Kier had virtual meetings with Arkansas and Minnesota today — his first since putting his name in the portal.

 

[gmujim92]

Which raises an interesting point: how is anyone supposed to pick a new school/coach without being able to even visit the campus and meet players and staff?

Unless my current situation was just untenable, I’d have to think long and hard about transferring at this time because you might get to your new destination and realize you made a terrible mistake. By that point it’s too late to do anything about it.

 

[tblack33]

Kier had virtual meetings with Arkansas and Minnesota today — his first since putting his name in the portal.

Really interesting that those were his first meetings, I had assumed that schools showing interest and him narrowing down indicated that he’d actually met with those schools. What constitutes reaching out to a player if not a virtual meeting right now?

 

[Pablo]

I'm a Butler season ticket holder and completely agree with the Butler transfer option. I'd love to see Kier finish out his career at Hinkle if it's not going to be at Mason. He'd be an instant leader on a young Butler squad.

I assume that you are a Mason alum. I would love to see a game at Hinkle Fieldhouse -

View: https://youtu.be/DlTBnGQlBvA

 

[gmujim92]

Really interesting that those were his first meetings, I had assumed that schools showing interest and him narrowing down indicated that he’d actually met with those schools. What constitutes reaching out to a player if not a virtual meeting right now?

Don’t know for sure, but maybe the dating process goes something like this (thanks to coronavirus): phone call or email from coach expressing interest > player narrows down list of potential destinations > virtual meetings > commitment

 

[GMUgemini]

Don’t know for sure, but maybe the dating process goes something like this (thanks to coronavirus): phone call or email from coach expressing interest > player narrows down list of potential destinations > virtual meetings > commitment

I would guess a coach could "show" a recruit the facilities during their virtual meetings. I know I can still access the buildings on campus if I needed to, I'm sure coaches can go into the locker rooms/weight rooms/practice facilities/etc. if they need to and "show" a recruit around.

 

[masonjoe]

Which raises an interesting point: how is anyone supposed to pick a new school/coach without being able to even visit the campus and meet players and staff?

Unless my current situation was just untenable, I’d have to think long and hard about transferring at this time because you might get to your new destination and realize you made a terrible mistake. By that point it’s too late to do anything about it.

seems to be working for all those who committed

 

[gmujim92]

seems to be working for all those who committed

It’s too early to know one way or the other. That’s the point. Some of these guys are going to transfer and regret it.

 

[Mason2005]

It’s too early to know one way or the other. That’s the point. Some of these guys are going to transfer and regret it.

100%, coaches lie like shit. Good luck to all these kids transferring but I'm expecting like a 5% happiness rate at the end of the day.

 

[Pablo]

Jake
@jakeweingarten
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Arkansas and Minnesota completed virtual visits today with George Mason graduate transfer Justin Kier, he told
@Stockrisers. First of them he’s had.

Called them ‘crazy and exciting’ - - Kier is one of the top-available grad transfers

 

[GSII]

Lets end the suspense. Kier is staying a Patriot. Yall are welcome.

 

[IzzyWikis]

I assume that you are a Mason alum. I would love to see a game at Hinkle Fieldhouse -

View: https://youtu.be/DlTBnGQlBvA

Yep, ‘06 graduate. Former Mason season ticket holder but moved out of the area 5 years ago. Hinkle is a must do for any basketball fan.

BTW, the Butler boards are getting hyped on the possibility of Kier but sounds like he’s a hot commodity in the transfer world and will have his options. Hope he comes back to Mason but seems less likely each day...

 

[sleeperpick]

Yep, ‘06 graduate. Former Mason season ticket holder but moved out of the area 5 years ago. Hinkle is a must do for any basketball fan.

BTW, the Butler boards are getting hyped on the possibility of Kier but sounds like he’s a hot commodity in the transfer world and will have his options. Hope he comes back to Mason but seems less likely each day...

I just pray for his sake he stays away from Minnesota and Georgetown. Want the best for the kid

 

[gmujim92]

I just pray for his sake he stays away from Minnesota and Georgetown. Want the best for the kid

I know I’m biased as hell, but I genuinely believe that given the circumstances the best place for him is Mason. Trying to get comfortable at a new school and build chemistry with a new coaching staff and teammates without having summer workouts seems like a daunting proposition.

Doesn’t mean Kier can’t find a good situation elsewhere. Obviously he can, but it’s a gamble versus a known quantity.