Welcome Justin Kier

[KAOriginal]

I find it interesting that you assume Mason can and will hire somebody better. Based on the program’s history with coaching hires, I’d give you even money that we hire someone worse and wind up blowing the whole thing sky high for no reason.

It's no assumption that we do, it's the chance.

If you are satisfied with the past 5 years and seeing it replicated the next 5...then we have nothing to discuss further.

All I am saying is I have seen enough of Paulsen to know he isn't A10 material and that we aren't "moving up" with him at the helm.

 

[mkaufman1]

so where do folks think Justin will end up? I hope he ends up at Butler or Ohio State.

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

If we fire Paulsen, not much is going to change in our position unless the AD says they're going to pump at least $1.5 million per year into our budget (that would put us at about $5 million a year and right around 4th-5th in the league in spending, with UMass and Richmond basically) -- increased assistant salaries, increased recruiting budget, charter flights to long away games, etc....and also announce some major upgrades to EBA or plans for a new arena. Fordham has a revolving door at coach and they've sucked for decades.

Oh, I see. Used to be no place for them to shoot baskets 24/7, now its we have to up the budget 1.5 mil or there's no way we can have a consistently good basketball team.

Looking forward to listening to the no practice facility bolshevik recycled next decade on the boards, then.

 

[GMUgemini]

Oh, I see. Used to be no place for them to shoot baskets 24/7, now its we have to up the budget 1.5 mil or there's no way we can have a consistently good basketball team.

Looking forward to listening to the no practice facility bolshevik recycled next decade on the boards, then.

I mean, we're bottom four in the league in budgeting. We aren't close to the top of the league in terms of facilities either (probably middle of the pack). We were top 3 in the CAA in both. If you want sustained success you've either got to hit on a hall of fame coach who wants to stick around despite being able to move up (McKillops), or you've got to be one of the top players in your conference (vcu, Dayton, SLU). Our chances of landing a hall of fame level coach who wants to stick around for 25 years are slim to none.

Duquesne got a coach who could recruit and immediately invested long-term in the program. We should do the same.

 

[gmujim92]

It's no assumption that we do, it's the chance.

If you are satisfied with the past 5 years and seeing it replicated the next 5...then we have nothing to discuss further.

All I am saying is I have seen enough of Paulsen to know he isn't A10 material and that we aren't "moving up" with him at the helm.

Well we all have our opinions...

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

so where do folks think Justin will end up? I hope he ends up at Butler or Ohio State.

Haha, is it even possible to keep these people on-topic? I literally spend half my time on these boards purposely going off topic as a joke and I stay on topic better than these guys.

f**k, I don't care where he goes if not here. He can have his new coach stick Buckeyes up his a** every practice for all I f**king care.

 

[gmujim92]

Oh, I see. Used to be no place for them to shoot baskets 24/7, now its we have to up the budget 1.5 mil or there's no way we can have a consistently good basketball team.

Looking forward to listening to the no practice facility bolshevik recycled next decade on the boards, then.

Good luck hiring a top level A-10 coach for $750k. And that’s no Bolshevik.

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Good luck hiring a top level A-10 coach for $750k. And that’s no Bolshevik.

Well its hopeless then. Shame.

Did you just rule out DP as a top-level A-10 coach?

Just feeding your buds....

 

[gmutom]

I went through a severe case of delusion/denial with Hewitt, because I liked most of the players he was recruiting and feared his his firing would lead to a mass exodus. Sadly, that fear became a reality with Porter, Jackson, Lockett and Gilbert all defecting. And in that regard, I do understand why Jim is clinging to hope for Paulsen.

What I can't do anymore is live in that "what if" world. If Paulsen rights the ship next season and gets us to the postseason, he should stay; if we suck yet again, he should go. It really is that simple. Players have more freedom under NCAA rules anyway, so it's not like him staying guarantees anything (see Kier as a perfect example).

I want Mason to be good again, so I am pulling for Paulsen to finally figure this out. I'm just done over-valuing a coach out of fear that the next coach could be worse.

 

[mkaufman1]

Its going to be a very long 8 months isn't it haha

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

I want Paulsen to do well next year because

A) I like Mason and
B) I finally suspect he had an A10 caliber recruit class

But f this excuse garbage as a program for why we can't possibly succeed unless we throw more money down a hole.

I'm sure its realistic after coronavirus and declining attendance though....

ROLLY EYE FACE!!!!!!

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Its going to be a very long 8 months isn't it haha

Still time to root for coronavirus

 

[ephoops]

See article on Kier's recruitment below. School list reportedly includes:

Arkansas, Butler, DePaul, Georgia Tech, Loyola Chicago, Ohio State, Tulane, Wake Forest and Washington State

Of these schools, I would say Butler and Ohio State are the P5 scholls that are locks to be in the NCAA tournament next year.

Interesting quote from Kier as well in the article.

Corey Evans • Basketball Recruiting
Basketball Analyst
@coreyevans_10

Appearing in just nine games last season due to a foot injury, Justin Kier is hoping to complete his college career on a strong note. The George Mason senior entered his name into the Transfer Portal on Wednesday and has already become a heavily drawn heavy interest from a number of high-major programs.

A 6-foot-4 scoring guard from the Harrisonburg, Virginia area, Kier has kept his options open regarding where he will spend his graduate-transfer season in which he could potentially return to the Atlantic 10 program. However, Arkansas, Butler, DePaul, Georgia Tech, Loyola Chicago, Ohio State, Tulane, Wake Forest and Washington State are among those that have already expressed interest in him within the past 24 hours.

“I believe i can do everything: lead, score, defend, make my teammates better and win while doing it,” Kier told Rivals.com. “I just want a place that wants me to come in and have an immediate impact and not just be a role player. I want to go to the next level and dominate in every aspect of the game.”

Kier has not settled on a timeline for when he will commit but will likely narrow his school list before deciding. Due to the coronavirus, a commitment will be made without having the opportunity to take any of the official visits that are usually allotted.

The George Mason standout has started 94 of the 108 games that he has appeared in throughout his college career. He continually improved within practically every major statistical category during his stay in Fairfax. In his final full year of play during the 2018-2019 season, Kier averaged 14.5 points, 6.5 rebounds, 2.6 assists and 1.6 steals per game. For his career, he is a 34-percent 3-point shooter.

 

[Masonfan3]

Keatts left and they went right back to sucking. Fisher, it remains to be seen if he can sustain success after Knight leaves (supposedly, to some people at least, Fisher sucks, so who knows).

If we fire Paulsen, not much is going to change in our position unless the AD says they're going to pump at least $1.5 million per year into our budget (that would put us at about $5 million a year and right around 4th-5th in the league in spending, with UMass and Richmond basically) -- increased assistant salaries, increased recruiting budget, charter flights to long away games, etc....and also announce some major upgrades to EBA or plans for a new arena. Fordham has a revolving door at coach and they've sucked for decades.

So why do any schools fire their under performing coaches? I never said we would make the right hire, but if we do then we don't have to "suck." Plenty of other schools have fired coaches and had success early on with their NEXT coach. I don't care what UNCW did after Keatts left as I was using it as a point that they made a good hire and were successful quickly with him.

 

[KAOriginal]

Well from the quote....Mason is the cute but chubby girlfriend who hasn't shown enough love...and Mr. Kier has just returned from the hot dance club with a bunch of new phone numbers......

 

[GMUgemini]

I want Paulsen to do well next year because

A) I like Mason and
B) I finally suspect he had an A10 caliber recruit class

But f this excuse garbage as a program for why we can't possibly succeed unless we throw more money down a hole.

I'm sure its realistic after coronavirus and declining attendance though....

ROLLY EYE FACE!!!!!!

A, who says you have to do it next year? Hell, we might actually be at an advantage in the next few years since something like 80% of our budget comes from student fees.

B, you really think we can be a top 5-6 team year in, year out, being 12th in spending? People want us to compete with the URI's, SLUs, vcu's, and Daytons of the world with recruits and how are we doing that with inferior infrastructure, amenities, ON TOP of crappy fan support, and zero community support -- at least we could get the administration behind them.

 

[gmujim92]

So why do any schools fire their under performing coaches? I never said we would make the right hire, but if we do then we don't have to "suck." Plenty of other schools have fired coaches and had success early on with their NEXT coach. I don't care what UNCW did after Keatts left as I was using it as a point that they made a good hire and were successful quickly with him.

And there are hundreds of examples of schools that fired their coach and decimated their roster only to hire somebody who was no better than the last guy.

The worst thing we could do is fire this staff just as they are starting to bring in a higher caliber of recruit, based on one bad* season.

 

[tblack33]

And there are hundreds of examples of schools that fired their coach and decimated their roster only to hire somebody who was no better than the last guy.

The worst thing we could do is fire this staff just as they are starting to bring in a higher caliber of recruit, based on one bad* season.

Lol one bad season? I’ll take what you are having.

 

[Petey Buckets]

B, you really think we can be a top 5-6 team year in, year out, being 12th in spending? People want us to compete with the URI's, SLUs, vcu's, and Daytons of the world with recruits and how are we doing that with inferior infrastructure, amenities, ON TOP of crappy fan support, and zero community support -- at least we could get the administration behind them.

Leave that strawman alone, he can't defend himself. "Perennial top 5 in the A10" isn't a measuring stick any reasonable people are using and you know it.

I, like most others who are critical of Paulsen, want to see some evidence he can compete for top 4 and an NCAA bid every few years. One top 5 finish in the A10's worst year in decades is all we got. I don't think we've seen anything to suggest our ceiling is any better than mediocre with him at the helm.

 

[tblack33]

We are bottom 5 in spending, however every team that spends less than us was higher in the standings last season.

Source: https://www.midmajormadness.com/201...ics-college-basketball-2016-gonzaga-mid-major