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disgruntled

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The choice of words matters because they are used to convey specific meaning. They're often used for reasons that aren't immediately obvious. Perhaps in everyday language "illegals" was once accepted in polite company. However, it is now intentionally used by people who oppose not just the actions of undocumented immigrants but the people's identities and characteristics. It's a code word (i.e., dog- whistle politics) meant to convey a point of view to like-minded persons but retain a certain amount of deniability when challenged. Consider the example of the various words used to label African Americans over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics

While I typically disagree with them, there are some merits to the arguments of those who favor certain strategies with respect to enforcing immigration law or to restricting immigration through changes in legislation. However, advocating for those positions doesn't require language intended to attack and inflame.

If you disagree with those on the left on immigration policy, that's fine, but remember using words like "illegals" persuades no one to change their minds. Try switching to "undocumented immigrants" and see what happens to the tone of the conversation. I bet you'll find that it cools things down and allows for rational discourse.
Remember the guy only had 144 characters to express his thoughts...immigrant is a large chunk of expression.
 

jmckend1

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I don't know if he's a lefty lunatic - not saying he is or isn't - but do recall him tweeting this out.

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He immediately got blasted for it as it was most definitely not what the study results revealed and proceeded to blame those offended for misunderstanding it and on twitter itself.

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After he got called out on this BS - he eventually admitted the poor word choice was his and took responsibility finally.

Incidentally - since the original retweet contains the phrase illegal immigrants, should Cabrera also be fired?
More leftist douchebaggery from a university head. I remember at Mason that white heterosexual conservative males were the only group not allowed to have its own club. Why does this issue always get reported as "these people hate immigrants" and totally ignore the whole "illegal" part, like you must just be a racist. I guess it's just easier to marginalize people into silence than to make a thoughtful argument.
 

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Is it okay to say we need to seal our northern border? Look at the damage those people have done. Bieber. Need I say more. And don't get me started with that whole Bachman Turner 70s invasion.
 

jmckend1

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Is it okay to say we need to seal our northern border? Look at the damage those people have done. Bieber. Need I say more. And don't get me started with that whole Bachman Turner 70s invasion.
Neil Young was kind of a dick too. The Band was cool though, they could stay.
 

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And, I know Rush had a few libertarian songs, but even that doesn't make up for their overall suckiness.
 

polepino

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Damn, the left/right thing again? You guys'll never get anything done until you understand you cause each others woes. In fact, I find it quite amusing that you continually seek to prop up the other side so that you can continue to live on yours. Left and Right in this country are still two sides of one coin. (Puts on political vitriol helmet and takes cover)
 

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I don't know if Cabrera is a drooling liberal but my experience with Spaniards is that they are liberal on everything except when they talk about no -Spaniards in Spain then they get very racist.

Now with regard to his post I wish someone pointed out to him that Americans Kiel immigrants - legal ones. You know those people who respect our laws and are not a drain on society . The issue at hand is illegal immigration which has been uncontrolled invasion across our border by people who don't respect our sovereignty or our laws and in fact state they have a right to come here and demand benefits unlimited. They don't learn the language or assimilate to our culture. They are a fifth column and invading Army.

The result has been the largest enforced transfer of wealth from American citizens to foreign aliens of other countries in history. Resources legitimately belonging to Amercian citizens only have been stolen and given to the ever expanding pool of illegals. It illegal, amoral, and wrong.

Now with regards to the liberal cesspool up north they are nuts. I was traveling a lot to Toronto for business in 200-2002 and there was some front desk secretary in the company with which we were partnering that made a point to say that we persecute minorities in the states. Her boss - who knew me well - realized the shit I was about to give her. I simply smiled and put on my southern twang and said "Darlin' I don't persecute my minorities. I just spent 20,000 bucks installing air conditioning in the slave cabins on my plantation. My coloreds love me"

I can still see her jaw hanging open in shock while her boss laughed. I then asked her where she came from as she sounded not from Toronto. She said Sri Lanka. I asked why she came to Canada. She said women were treated better here and she could get a job. I just said " wow. Seems odd you had to come to a racist white western country to make a better life. Maybe you need to change your world view since you had to escape the persecution in your own culture to bud a future."

We never spoke again after that.


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Vurbel

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I don't know if Cabrera is a drooling liberal but my experience with Spaniards is that they are liberal on everything except when they talk about no -Spaniards in Spain then they get very racist.

Now with regard to his post I wish someone pointed out to him that Americans Kiel immigrants - legal ones. You know those people who respect our laws and are not a drain on society . The issue at hand is illegal immigration which has been uncontrolled invasion across our border by people who don't respect our sovereignty or our laws and in fact state they have a right to come here and demand benefits unlimited. They don't learn the language or assimilate to our culture. They are a fifth column and invading Army.

The result has been the largest enforced transfer of wealth from American citizens to foreign aliens of other countries in history. Resources legitimately belonging to Amercian citizens only have been stolen and given to the ever expanding pool of illegals. It illegal, amoral, and wrong.

Now with regards to the liberal cesspool up north they are nuts. I was traveling a lot to Toronto for business in 200-2002 and there was some front desk secretary in the company with which we were partnering that made a point to say that we persecute minorities in the states. Her boss - who knew me well - realized the shit I was about to give her. I simply smiled and put on my southern twang and said "Darlin' I don't persecute my minorities. I just spent 20,000 bucks installing air conditioning in the slave cabins on my plantation. My coloreds love me"

I can still see her jaw hanging open in shock while her boss laughed. I then asked her where she came from as she sounded not from Toronto. She said Sri Lanka. I asked why she came to Canada. She said women were treated better here and she could get a job. I just said " wow. Seems odd you had to come to a racist white western country to make a better life. Maybe you need to change your world view since you had to escape the persecution in your own culture to bud a future."

We never spoke again after that.

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Did Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin write that? I kid, I kid, I have to go. I'm off to hug a tree. :)
 

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Bill Walton usually annoys me when I hear him doing games. However, I liked what he just said during the USC-UCLA game. I'm not sure what he was referring to, but he said "Is this something that isn't real, like the war on Christmas." Yeah baby. FU Bill O'Reilly. FU Paul Hewitt.
 
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Harry

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I don't know if he's a lefty lunatic - not saying he is or isn't - but do recall him tweeting this out.

tpvA6P.jpg


He immediately got blasted for it as it was most definitely not what the study results revealed and proceeded to blame those offended for misunderstanding it and on twitter itself.

RzcLpl.png



After he got called out on this BS - he eventually admitted the poor word choice was his and took responsibility finally.

Incidentally - since the original retweet contains the phrase illegal immigrants, should Cabrera also be fired?
These tweets make no sense...I thought Angel was a learned man?
 

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GMU fans across the political spectrum want Hewitt gone!!! I dunno, maybe those ISIS crazies feel differently.
 
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