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Yall are crazy, when a new administration takes over you should see change. What changes have you seen? Mason was awarded number 1 up and coming university 2 times while I was an undergrad. But what happened. Are we there yet, no.

I choose GMU because I saw all the potential. But GMU never really turned the page of up and coming to actually being here. Its a university where you get a great education and you will meet really interesting people. But did the university do enough to make you love your alma matter. Did it do enough to make alumni want to donate back to the school.

Are freshman excited to start GMU, or is it their safety school. Or do they choose it because its close to home. I think you all have to realize the people on this forum are the minority of students who found something that brought us together. But the bulk of students don't care about a losing bball program. Most of greek life will complain GMU doesn't let them have fun.

I will give you the perspective of my son - who is a freshman at GMU and chose GMU after being accepted to JMU, Va Tech, and VMI. He chose Mason because of the software engineering program he was interested in. Several of his other high school mates chose Mason as well. He lives on campus and has a great time. He goes to parties, campus events and is involved in a fraternity and plays on the Rugby team. He comes home to get quiet time.

After a few months he is very enthusiastic about Mason. He didn't make his decision lightly and actually spent weekends at JMU, Tech and VMI to get a feel for the campus and student life. He said what Mason offered was better.

He goes to basketball games, fraternity parties, is involved with Catholic ministries, and has been to 8 outside barbecues in the President Park dorms. He also likes the food.

Mason went up in the recent rankings and JMU dropped. So all this moaning about Mason is just odd.

The student and campus life at Mason is EONS ahead of what we had in the late 80s and early 90s.
 

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I don't want to be a "flame thrower," but if some of you guys are as premature in other areas as you were with this "panic button" bullish!t, let's just say I feel very sorry for your significant others.

Their sheets get stained alot.

My God. Last home game I was in the student stands with my son and his/my fraternity. Had a great time.

Go Mason you bitches.
 

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I will give you the perspective of my son - who is a freshman at GMU and chose GMU after being accepted to JMU, Va Tech, and VMI. He chose Mason because of the software engineering program he was interested in. Several of his other high school mates chose Mason as well. He lives on campus and has a great time. He goes to parties, campus events and is involved in a fraternity and plays on the Rugby team. He comes home to get quiet time.

After a few months he is very enthusiastic about Mason. He didn't make his decision lightly and actually spent weekends at JMU, Tech and VMI to get a feel for the campus and student life. He said what Mason offered was better.

He goes to basketball games, fraternity parties, is involved with Catholic ministries, and has been to 8 outside barbecues in the President Park dorms. He also likes the food.

Mason went up in the recent rankings and JMU dropped. So all this moaning about Mason is just odd.

The student and campus life at Mason is EONS ahead of what we had in the late 80s and early 90s.

Very happy to read this!
 

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Very happy to read this!

Yes - in fact I was most surprised is the amount of support he gets from academic advisors. My son has had meetings every two weeks and they helped guide him scheduling his courses for next semester - he is already booked (and I am paying now). He told me that he has had a lot of support from the engineering program and faculty. No bureaucratic hang ups or delays.

We never had that back in the day. I would say the overall student experience just from a getting scheduled, advising, and delivery of education is much enhanced. Hence our increased rankings and the decreasing differential between our peer institutions - JMU/Tech, vcu, ODU, et al.
 

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Uhhh we fell in this years rankings. Not saying we haven't made great strides or anything because we have. But we slipped like nine places.
 

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Uhhh we fell in this years rankings. Not saying we haven't made great strides or anything because we have. But we slipped like nine places.

JMU slipped more - so if you back that one year drop with the previous 6 year increases - still up overall.

Progress still being made steadily.
 

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JMU slipped more - so if you back that one year drop with the previous 6 year increases - still up overall.

Progress still being made steadily.
Not arguing the progress. JMU is a college though, I'm pretty sure they don't get ranked against the country because they have like one doctoral program just so they can call themselves a university. I'd expect to see Mason keep slipping for a year or so in the rankings. The admission rate has skyrocketed.
 

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Not arguing the progress. JMU is a college though, I'm pretty sure they don't get ranked against the country because they have like one doctoral program just so they can call themselves a university. I'd expect to see Mason keep slipping for a year or so in the rankings. The admission rate has skyrocketed.

So has the average GPA and SAT scores. So I am fine with that - universities ranked higher than us have had higher acceptance rates.
 

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So has the average GPA and SAT scores. So I am fine with that - universities ranked higher than us have had higher acceptance rates.
Oh I'm not saying I have a problem with our direction or decisions (although I question why it took until a month ago to accept the common app, that brings in thousands of more applications), I'm just saying I don't think we should expect steady progress in the US News/World rankings for a few years.

This is a fantastic article on how those rankings are both silly but can really help an institution

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/
 

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Oh I'm not saying I have a problem with our direction or decisions (although I question why it took until a month ago to accept the common app, that brings in thousands of more applications), I'm just saying I don't think we should expect steady progress in the US News/World rankings for a few years.

This is a fantastic article on how those rankings are both silly but can really help an institution

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/

Concur with your point. But another anecdote on how far Mason has come - my firm is starting to develop a hard core cyber security practice - we selected two universities to focus recruiting based on their cybersecurity programs - one of the two is GMU. In the words of my managing partner - we have to hit Mason up for grads like we would a virgin on prom night. The professors who lead that program gave a great presentation on what they do and the capabilities of their grads.
 

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Concur with your point. But another anecdote on how far Mason has come - my firm is starting to develop a hard core cyber security practice - we selected two universities to focus recruiting based on their cybersecurity programs - one of the two is GMU. In the words of my managing partner - we have to hit Mason up for grads like we would a virgin on prom night. The professors who lead that program gave a great presentation on what they do and the capabilities of their grads.
If you don't mind me asking, what's the other school?
 

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Interesting. I've had a couple of their professors guest teach classes of mine in my program. Seems like they're onto something down there.

The rankings thing though is partly why I'd prefer to see the southwest sector plan get underway before the renovation to Robinson Hall
 

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Not a bad choice. Iowa State and Purdue are other traditional universities that have an emphasis on security education. Personally, I think college institutions aren't very good at security education, but if plucking from university systems is a recruiting tactic, they're good ones to look into as well.
 

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Not a bad choice. Iowa State and Purdue are other traditional universities that have an emphasis on security education. Personally, I think college institutions aren't very good at security education, but if plucking from university systems is a recruiting tactic, they're good ones to look into as well.

Honestly there is such a need in cyber security that if you can get yourself a degree and prove yourself worthy you probably can end up with a good starter job, and then once you get experience you go from there. I have no clue what cyber programs are teaching now- but I bet a high percentage of learning comes from on the job experience as with any degree. At least in DC it seems like the programs focus on what the area gives in terms of jobs (govt focused security etc)
 

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Honestly there is such a need in cyber security that if you can get yourself a degree and prove yourself worthy you probably can end up with a good starter job, and then once you get experience you go from there. I have no clue what cyber programs are teaching now- but I bet a high percentage of learning comes from on the job experience as with any degree. At least in DC it seems like the programs focus on what the area gives in terms of jobs (govt focused security etc)
From thumbing through a few BoV reports it seems like we're about to shift a solid majority or our research expenditures towards security studies.
 
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