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EXpatriot13

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Question for the folks who are plugged into our NIL efforts…Any thoughts on creating some new merch to sell to support NIL?

Simple “George Mason Basketball” design on the front and player names on the back, could even poll a few design options on here.

Given the majority of us despise the new logo and anything the school sells directly, I’d imagine there would be a decent amount of buyers out there (myself included).
 
Question for the folks who are plugged into our NIL efforts…Any thoughts on creating some new merch to sell to support NIL?

Simple “George Mason Basketball” design on the front and player names on the back, could even poll a few design options on here.

Given the majority of us despise the new logo and anything the school sells directly, I’d imagine there would be a decent amount of buyers out there (myself included).

I agree with your idea.

In the mean time, here is some GMU Basketball merch on the bookstore website:

 

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"The former players allege Hamilton promised them the money from his 'business partners.' The lawsuit says they walked out of a practice last season over the missed payments and intended to boycott a Feb. 17 game against Duke. They ended up playing — the Seminoles lost 76-67 — amid a guarantee from Hamilton that they would be paid but never were, according to the suit."
 

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Article talking about how vcu will approach sharing revenue with student-athletes. I copied it below for those who can't get past the paywall.

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Virginia Commonwealth University intends to pay its athletes beginning next school year, a monumental change to its financial model.

vcu intends to opt in to a lawsuit settlement, joining potentially hundreds of other colleges that will compensate players for their abilities beyond a scholarship, Ed McLaughlin, the school's athletics director, said in a recent interview.

It will be the first time colleges have openly paid their players. The new expense will cost vcu between $4 million and $5 million and require the athletic department to find new streams of revenue.

"Amateurism as we know it is dead," McLaughlin told the school's board of visitors. "There is a new collegiate model."
 
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EXpatriot13

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Article talking about how vcu will approach sharing revenue with student-athletes. I copied it below for those who can't get past the paywall.

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Virginia Commonwealth University intends to pay its athletes beginning next school year, a monumental change to its financial model.

vcu intends to opt in to a lawsuit settlement, joining potentially hundreds of other colleges that will compensate players for their abilities beyond a scholarship, Ed McLaughlin, the school's athletics director, said in a recent interview.

It will be the first time colleges have openly paid their players. The new expense will cost vcu between $4 million and $5 million and require the athletic department to find new streams of revenue.

"Amateurism as we know it is dead," McLaughlin told the school's board of visitors. "There is a new collegiate model."

In 2021, the NCAA first allowed players to profit off their name, image and likeness, or NIL. vcu players have earned money through their own endorsement deals and from a third-party fundraiser called the Havoc Unlimited Collective. A Virginia law took effect in July allowing colleges to pay players directly, but vcu to this point declined to do so because it was a violation of NCAA rules.

Now, the NCAA will allow mid-major schools such as vcu to share revenue if they opt in to a lawsuit settlement in which the NCAA has agreed to pay $2.8 billion to former athletes denied the chance to profit off their abilities. vcu will forgo a portion of its NCAA revenue — about $140,000 next year — that will be diverted to the plaintiffs. The settlement still needs final approval from a judge, which could come early this year.

Under the terms of the settlement, each college can spend about $21 million to compensate players in the 2025-26 school year. That number is expected to increase each year. Some colleges have discussed allotting 75% to football players, 15% to men's basketball players and 10% to athletes of other sports, McLaughlin said. That means a college spending the maximum could budget $3.2 million for a men's basketball team, or an average of about $250,000 per player. Universities must disclose to the NCAA payments greater than $600.

How much a player makes will be driven by the market. At vcu, men's basketball players bring more revenue than other sports and are expected to receive the largest payments. vcu intends to spend on men's basketball as much as other top teams in its conference, the Atlantic 10, and rank in the top 35 nationally.

A player's "brand value is driven by the market," McLaughlin said.

Some colleges have hired general managers to oversee the building of rosters and to determine how much a player will earn. Mak Afework, deputy director of athletics, will assume that role for vcu's men's and women's basketball teams.

Given that colleges are expected to expend most of their resources on football, vcu could benefit by not fielding a football team. Men's basketball will be its top priority.

"For me, it's a huge benefit looking at limited revenues going forward," McLaughlin said.

How vcu will generate the $4 to $5 million to pay players, it's not entirely clear. The university will ask donors to make gifts, and the athletic department will review its revenue and costs to maximize efficiency, McLaughlin said. vcu is not planning to add a surcharge to ticket prices as other colleges have done — the University of Tennessee said it would add a 10% "talent fee" to ticket prices.

"We have to make the financial jigsaw puzzle fit together," McLaughlin added.

The athletic department had a budget of roughly $45 million in the 2023 fiscal year, with more than half of the department's proceeds coming from student fees. This year, each student is required to pay an athletic fee of about $1,400, a number that has risen almost 50% since 2020.

vcu is already asking donors to fund a portion of the athletics village, a 42-acre complex for the university's soccer, tennis and track teams. School president Michael Rao said he has helped the fundraising effort by asking for donations. Athletics is the "window through which people look" at vcu, Rao said last month. McLaughlin added that donors have been willing to give to both causes because both are important.

It is still unclear if paying men's players more than women's players would violate Title IX, a federal law that requires colleges give equal opportunities to male and female athletes. McLaughlin said that because the lawsuit settlement will be approved by a judge, whatever arrangement the judge confirms will have some legal standing.

The settlement also allows colleges to increase the number of scholarships they offer, but vcu will not add scholarships next year. Currently, the NCAA allows 13 scholarship players on a men's basketball roster, a number expected to increase to 15. This year, vcu has 12. If the team offers scholarships to too many players, some of them have to sit the bench, McLaughlin said.

Another uncertainty is what will happen to the Rams Unlimited Collective, the group that gathers donations and pays players. Rodney Ashby, a former vcu basketball player who runs the collective, said the organization could continue to exist next year, but what role it will play is still up in the air.
Plans in place, and people in positions to execute on them when it’s go time. I continue to envy that school’s approach to athletics and men’s basketball (most of it not being rocket science).

I really hope we’re cooking up something similar behind the scenes and it’s just in typical Mason fashion that we won’t hear anything about it.

Unrelated/kinda related, why haven’t we hired a GM of basketball? Maybe that’s in the works.
 

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Plans in place, and people in positions to execute on them when it’s go time. I continue to envy that school’s approach to athletics and men’s basketball (most of it not being rocket science).

I really hope we’re cooking up something similar behind the scenes and it’s just in typical Mason fashion that we won’t hear anything about it.

Unrelated/kinda related, why haven’t we hired a GM of basketball? Maybe that’s in the works.
We never hear about Mason’s plans until the university is ready to announce them because there’s no media around to ask questions
 

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We need to seriously need to get into bed with some rich local folks - we need to send GMUTom and his ladies over to Jeff Bezo's house and have them work a deal. A nice $250 million donation to the NIL fund.
 
"College is too expensive!"

"College is free for athletes but that's not good enough!"

"Why is college more expensive now? Pay my student loans!"

Well at least student athletes aren't starving to death now because the dining hall stops serving breakfast at noon.

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Didn't the little communist Dartmouth dickheads stop trying to unionize at least? That is good, can you imagine the poor saps that used to go into mines and die in front of their pet canaries listen to a lecture from some Dartmouth communist cocksucker on "oppression?"

Next time you see Larranaga or some other old retiree ask him to tell you about the canary times they were quite bad
 
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About a generation or 2 ago, Universities started charging "student fees to support athletic departments".

In return, the students got free admittance to athletic events and in some cases access to preferred seating.

One funding method for this situation will be to raise the student fees.
I have been waiting - for at least 10 years or so - to see students from an academically focused school - sue over student fees used to fund/subsidize athletics - that most of the student body does not attend.

Although technically, the increase in student fees doesn't go to pay student athletes, it is used to replace funds that will be used to pay student athletes.

GMU has 30k+ students and maybe 3000+ attended the vcu games back on the day when those games were sellouts. Nowadays I'd guess a max of 10% of the student body attends the Men's bball games, and likely less for all other sports.

The only school I can think of without intercollegiate athletics is Spelman College. They are a former D3 program who abandoned intercollegiate athletics (except for the Cheerleaders who actually cheer for Morehouse College) and replaced it with a health and wellness program and a limited intramural program.
 

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The only school I can think of without intercollegiate athletics is Spelman College. They are a former D3 program who abandoned intercollegiate athletics (except for the Cheerleaders who actually cheer for Morehouse College) and replaced it with a health and wellness program and a limited intramural program.

There are several small, private 4-year colleges without intercollegiate athletics including Reed College which Steve Jobs attended. St. Francis College (Brooklyn) eliminated intercollegiate athletics at the end of the 2022-23 school year. St. Francis (Brooklyn) is one of 4 original D-1 schools never to have played in the NCAA D-I men's basketball tournament. The other schools are Army West Point, the Citadel, and William & Mary.
 

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Didn't the little communist Dartmouth dickheads stop trying to unionize at least? That is good, can you imagine the poor saps that used to go into mines and die in front of their pet canaries listen to a lecture from some Dartmouth communist cocksucker on "oppression?"

Next time you see Larranaga or some other old retiree ask him to tell you about the canary times they were quite bad
Not a close follower of the Dartmouth case, though I'd think a lack of athletic scholarships at Ivy's made unionization efforts more likely there. Union rights are tenous in these times - glad they may sometimes still be accessed in cases that don't necessarily involve a risk of dying in a coal mine.

Go GMU! Go Big Slime!
 
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"College is too expensive!"

"College is free for athletes but that's not good enough!"

"Why is college more expensive now? Pay my student loans!"

Well at least student athletes aren't starving to death now because the dining hall stops serving breakfast at noon.

Online millennial dickhead

Didn't the little communist Dartmouth dickheads stop trying to unionize at least? That is good, can you imagine the poor saps that used to go into mines and die in front of their pet canaries listen to a lecture from some Dartmouth communist cocksucker on "oppression?"

Next time you see Larranaga or some other old retiree ask him to tell you about the canary times they were quite bad


You know, sometimes (rarely) I think that you are funny and add valuable insight into the boards, but other times (mostly) I think that you are an absolute jackwagon that needs to be reigned in or shut down.

Can you make your wildly off-kilter points without denigrating anyone who doesn't share your warped sense of morals or reality?
 

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There are several small, private 4-year colleges without intercollegiate athletics including Reed College which Steve Jobs attended. St. Francis College (Brooklyn) eliminated intercollegiate athletics at the end of the 2022-23 school year. St. Francis (Brooklyn) is one of 4 original D-1 schools never to have played in the NCAA D-I men's basketball tournament. The other schools are Army West Point, the Citadel, and William & Mary.
Hard to predict these things, but, I am guessing the house settlement may encourage more schools to go the route of dropping athletics all together. Though, I haven't considered what it means for a school to not sign on to being part of the settlement.
 

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You know, sometimes (rarely) I think that you are funny and add valuable insight into the boards, but other times (mostly) I think that you are an absolute jackwagon that needs to be reigned in or shut down.

Can you make your wildly off-kilter points without denigrating anyone who doesn't share your warped sense of morals or reality?
Wow! I wish I could thumbs up this 10 times!
Thanks for posting!
 

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You know, sometimes (rarely) I think that you are funny and add valuable insight into the boards, but other times (mostly) I think that you are an absolute jackwagon that needs to be reigned in or shut down.

Can you make your wildly off-kilter points without denigrating anyone who doesn't share your warped sense of morals or reality?

Your hate only makes him stronger. He is pretty jacked these days, which makes me fear for opposing fans. Expect a bloody polar bear rampage at an upcoming game.
 
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