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The theory of the rich booster becomes real.

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones offering Kentucky recruits double pay to come to Arkansas​


 

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I do wonder what’s going to happen to APR. they’re also going to have to do something about eligibility and transfers at some point because a kid can’t graduate unless he has at least 60 credit hours at his last school, so he’s either going to have to finish his degree sans scholarship or take a redshirt at some point.

I assume at some point "scholarship" will go away because it stands in the way of total freedom.

So then....academics have no role. Grades, graduation? Not enforced as NCAA will have no legs really ... the players will move to an employee role.

The last vestiges of NCAA and student athlete will fall to Olympic sports. The question is what schools keep them.

The Will Wades of the world were not wrong they were just ahead of their time ....
 

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I assume at some point "scholarship" will go away because it stands in the way of total freedom.

So then....academics have no role. Grades, graduation? Not enforced as NCAA will have no legs really ... the players will move to an employee role.

The last vestiges of NCAA and student athlete will fall to Olympic sports. The question is what schools keep them.

The Will Wades of the world were not wrong they were just ahead of their time ....

I’ve got to imagine this would cause a massive shrinkage in the number of schools playing basketball and football (at least at the highest level. Perhaps lower divisions will persist?).

Very few of them would make enough revenue for it to make sense, especially when you take away the ability for student fees and donations to subsidize the teams.
 

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I’ve got to imagine this would cause a massive shrinkage in the number of schools playing basketball and football (at least at the highest level. Perhaps lower divisions will persist?).

Very few of them would make enough revenue for it to make sense, especially when you take away the ability for student fees and donations to subsidize the teams.

 

jruby

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I assume at some point "scholarship" will go away because it stands in the way of total freedom.

So then....academics have no role. Grades, graduation? Not enforced as NCAA will have no legs really ... the players will move to an employee role.

The last vestiges of NCAA and student athlete will fall to Olympic sports. The question is what schools keep them.

The Will Wades of the world were not wrong they were just ahead of their time ....
Then NCAA goes away. Sooner it goes away the better. Also again the sooner the sec and big10 leave to start their own thing the better for everyone. Then everyone else goes back to somewhat normal 'College' sports. Nil is not the issue, schools have been paying players since the beginning of sport.

The issue is the transfers....
 

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Then NCAA goes away. Sooner it goes away the better. Also again the sooner the sec and big10 leave to start their own thing the better for everyone. Then everyone else goes back to somewhat normal 'College' sports. Nil is not the issue, schools have been paying players since the beginning of sport.

The issue is the transfers....

I don’t see how removing the top 40-50 teams changes anything re: transfers. You’ve still got over 300 D1 teams with a wide range of revenue disparity.
 

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Didn't we just hire someone to do fundraising? Forgot her name.
 

jruby

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I don’t see how removing the top 40-50 teams changes anything re: transfers. You’ve still got over 300 D1 teams with a wide range of revenue disparity.
Those teams wont play anyone outside their new league. It would dramatically change everything. Separate tournaments, separate everything rules etc etc.everyone outside those 40 go back to being college athletes who focus on graduating, they could put rules in place to put in academic requirements.
 

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I can see that point - but at the same rate you have nothing to lose by leaving spots open. Better off taking a kid or two to help fill out the roster who might develop or be a depth piece / practice piece than leaving it empty.

I feel like we've discussed this topic regarding Mason's roster before ;)
Don't we need those spots full to have a, full, legit set of bodies for practice?
 

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"Since July 2021, when the NCAA began allowing athletes to profit off their names, images and likenesses (NIL), LSU gymnasts have disclosed 75 deals worth a combined $4.9 million, according to data obtained by The Washington Post through an open-records request. That’s nearly as much as the football team ($5.6 million) and the high-profile women’s basketball team ($5 million) — and far more than the men’s basketball team ($1.3 million) and all other LSU programs."
 

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"Since July 2021, when the NCAA began allowing athletes to profit off their names, images and likenesses (NIL), LSU gymnasts have disclosed 75 deals worth a combined $4.9 million, according to data obtained by The Washington Post through an open-records request. That’s nearly as much as the football team ($5.6 million) and the high-profile women’s basketball team ($5 million) — and far more than the men’s basketball team ($1.3 million) and all other LSU programs."
Good for them, BUT does the funding continue once Olivia Dunne is no longer competing? That's the question.
 

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Wouldn’t it be something if Mason could send an invoice to Hall and Okojie?

Nutritionist: $5,000
Academic Tutor: $5,000
Personal Trainer: $30,000
Equipment and Gear: $10,000
Travel Expenses: $20,000
Medical Staff and Physiotherapy: $15,000
Team Psychologist/Counselor: $7,000
Facility Usage Fees (gyms, training facilities): $8,000

Total: $100,000

Of course, this is all just a joke, but professional athletes often foot the bill for their own upkeep. Interestingly, at the college level, training facilities often surpass those of professional teams. Professional athletes are expected to cover the costs of their physical well-being and skill development. Take LeBron James, for instance, who reportedly invests $1.5 million annually in his physical well-being, covering expenses like home gyms, personal trainers, massage therapists, chefs, and specialized equipment.

It’s quite the contrast to the support college athletes receive, but in the world of NIL, we will see changes to how money is spent for sure.
 
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