Game 10: GMU (6-3) vs Tulane (4-5) on Saturday, December 7, at 2:00 PM.

tblack33

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Love this - the idea and enthusiasm to build out something.

Like someone mentioned earlier, we haven't been relevant since about 2012. This should of been done going into the 2007 season, much less after 2011, when we has momentum (vcu identified this and capitalized on it after their Final 4).

I think the major problem today is this Mason generation just isn't into college bball. The frats and sororities don't even show up. The men's soccer team was there last game, to get announced on the court for winning the A-10 title, I watched them go back to their seats and they just look bored being there, majority of them were on their phones for the remainder of the game. So many other options for the 17-25+ year olds to do - mainly to blame on the digital society we are in. Gaming, social media, YouTube, etc. has sucked up a lot of kids attention. What do students get for showing up to a game these days? Is there point systems where they earn food or dining dollars or something to entice them? Also, throw in the fact that we live in one of the most expensive areas in the US, most students have jobs at night, or take classes at night, or live at home and usually go home after their classes... so they are missing out on the ability to get into the GMU fandom experience and build a culture/fanbase around the team and school.

What does the school do to instill this from day one with freshmen. How hard is it to mail each incoming freshman a GMU basketball shirt and a one pager brochure on our bball history to educate them and let them know we want them at games!? It starts from the bottom... gotta build a foundation with students at the early onset of their college journey.

Will also add...the people who have worked in the AD and marketing for the past 15+ years and the vast majority were/are not Mason grads. Point being they are not as passionate about the team and school to really dig into creating something like this. They do what's in the box and within budget and just collect a paycheck and go home. We are all passionate about Mason bball and if only we could have had people like us in these positions then maybe we could have created something beautiful for fans over the past 15 years.
I don’t disagree with this. The students that do show up generally look like they couldn’t care less about the game. It’s a culture issue within the student body. I don’t know what the solution is but I hope the school figures something out because those are your future season ticket holders and donors. We’ve lost pretty much an entire generation of fans over the last 10 years.

All I know is that there are other schools in our area and with similar demographics who have figured out how to get students out to games and engaged. Maybe some shared best practices across ADs would be helpful.
 

DRK331

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There will be a Tailgate for this game

Location: Lot L, near West entrance
Time: 11AM to 1PM

There is a post from @MasonStudentGov on Instagram about it
 

GunstonsGhost

Specialist
Everyone would sit together in a tight block m the same section. It would probably be a rather smaller group at first but hopefully will grow, ideally to be about 150-200 strong.
This sounds like a great idea! As a first time season ticket holder I wish I had an option to pick a section where other people were into the game. Like @tblack33 mentioned, I'm also sitting behind an older couple, who no lie haven't clapped or cheered once this season. The wife actually told a guy a couple rows down to sit down at the end of the Central Michigan game. He got heated with her about it.

I want to be around the folks having beers and enjoying the game, not the space cadets who got dropped off by retirement home bus. This wasn't as apparent to me when I was only going to a couple games a season and sitting in different sections. This season has been an eye opener.
 

Skizzle

Recruit
As I said before, we’ve got to make it a social event and make people feel connected and/or stay connected to the university and basketball program.

I’ve said this before and here is what I would try to get y’all to do if I lived there and not here. And that is take a page from soccer culture and start an unofficial supporters group for Mason basketball (you can build it out to all sports if you want eventually if/when it gets big enough to do so).

I’ve been a supporter of DC United since ‘96. When I lived there I used to sit behind the Barra Brava, who at the time set the gold standard for soccer supporter culture in the U.S.

So this is kind of a combination between an official supporters groups Screaming Eagles and and unofficial supporters group DCUK (which standards for DC United Kingdom—because the founder is from the UK and it’s meant to connected international United fans).

It would be a collaboration between Masonhoops, Giant Killers and the Collective. It would have a similar model to the Screaming Eagles in that there are yearly dues to maintain membership. Those yearly dues would be used to keep and maintain a block of tickets from which members can buy single game tickets as well as help fund the collective. We would use the Giant Killers name and logo (with their permission, since they were originally created to hype the program and get people excited about Mason basketball again) and give everyone a Giant Killers logo’s scarf to promote the group.

Everyone would sit together in a tight block m the same section. It would probably be a rather smaller group at first but hopefully will grow, ideally to be about 150-200 strong. There will be Barra level of expectations for standing; chanting and singing the entire game (although we won’t step on the toes of the band during timeouts/halftime—who cares about the cheerleaders and what they’re doing). Soccer supporters groups generally make their own signage (called tifo) and write their own songs (based on common melodies and tailored to certain opposing teams as well as their own players). We will either do an American style tailgate every home game or a European style pub pre-game. Apparently the university doesn’t care if you tailgate so long as you don’t advertise you’re drinking (yes, Brian?)

Ideally and eventually we would arrange bus trips to busable away games (Richmond, Philly, New York) made exclusively for Giant Killers members. This is what the Screaming Eagles do.

Giant Killers will continue to make their content as a way to keep members and dans connected during the season and offseason. Masonhoops will continue to be the place where those fans come together and talk hoops and to help keep the Mason diaspora connected and in the loop.

The one thing that is an important difference is the Screaming Eagles get an allotment of tickets from United for their supporters section to sell to their membership. This is what makes them an “official” team supporters group. The way college economics works we would have to pool season tickets together, purchasing more than we would use and then sell those tickets to supporters who don’t donate their tickets to the group’s collective.

Here is the Screaming Eagles website: https://www.screaming-eagles.com/

Here is DCUK’s website: https://dcunitedkingdom.com/

The benefits of doing this are several:

1) having three dedicated sections (band, students, supporters section) the energy generated will be infectious. The older supporters, being “die hards” and promising to bring it every game will also teach the students how to be the “6th man on the court” they will take their cues from us.

2) If this isn’t something that gets abandoned like everything else at Mason, the consistent social aspects (both physical and digital) will generate a sustainable community and will provide a place for students to enter when they leave school. They will want to become a part of us.

3) if the supporters group gets big enough the dues will help not only Mason athletics (through increased season tickets sales and donation for said tickets), but also the collective (as dues not needed for events hosting, and maintaining said season tickets) can be used for donations to the collective, which will in turn help get and keep the better players on the roster.

4) it will help grow this tiny community here since we will be the founders and sponsors of the official Giant Killer supporters group message board (no need to change the name of the board).

I’m also not married to using George Mason Giant Killers but they already have a presence and a logo, so was cribbing their name. I also don’t mean to step on their toes here either, so my apologies if this sounds dumb to you guys (and to the Masonhoops community).

End of super long post that I doubt anyone will use. But it’s an idea I’ve had for a long time. I just moved back to Miami in ‘09 (which is where I’m originally from—well not originally originally, but where my family had relocated to before going to Mason) and now live in Arizona.
This isn’t a bad idea, but GMU already has the Student band the Green Machine which does a fantastic job of creating a good atmosphere IMO as someone who goes to a lot of DCU games. I think the biggest issue is just getting people out to games and the schedule . I’ve brought some of my friends and family to games and they were skeptical at first but all really enjoyed going. TBH, GMUs non-con( and some A-10 but at least those games matter) schedule is horrible as a local who just wants to have something to do when CFB, MLS, and MLB aren’t in season. They play no schools in VA besides a private D3 school. The only school I’ve heard of before was Tulane. GMU should be playing one of ODU, JMU, or W&M at home every year at minimum. Also, the AD should be doing anything possible to get VT or UVA at EBA. They would sell out the arena and could package the tickets with other games to try to get local alums from there to come to other games. I’m also super bummed we didn’t get vcu at home this year but the AD can’t really control that so I’ll give them a pass.
 

tblack33

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This sounds like a great idea! As a first time season ticket holder I wish I had an option to pick a section where other people were into the game. Like @tblack33 mentioned, I'm also sitting behind an older couple, who no lie haven't clapped or cheered once this season. The wife actually told a guy a couple rows down to sit down at the end of the Central Michigan game. He got heated with her about it.

I want to be around the folks having beers and enjoying the game, not the space cadets who got dropped off by retirement home bus. This wasn't as apparent to me when I was only going to a couple games a season and sitting in different sections. This season has been an eye opener.
lol we need a “rowdy adults” section.
 

jruby

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If you or other people are waiting for us to be in the post season multiple years in a row before you start coming to games, I have some really bad news for you.

Dayton is so far ahead of what we could ever hope to be as program (unless something changes drastically for us) people who want to use that as a benchmark are delusional. I am not telling you to go root for someone else, but if that is your level of expectation, you need to lower your expectations or you either need to go root for them or pick someone like Duke who you frequently talk about hating. Most of the hate for Duke is because they have been so good for so long.

Rooting for Mason is rooting for the underdog. Doing more with less. As I mentioned before, it is as much the journey as it is the outcome. Be there through the mediocre times so the occasional really good year feels that much sweeter.
I think mediocre is the key here, that’s all anyone can really ask for. The main issue I think is in the DMV with A type personalities everyone expects the best. The issue so many on here and the fans who do come had, was being just bad! Middle of the pack with an occasional top 4 and playing for the tournament while continuing to grow the program has to be the goal. I think Tony is moving things in the right direction but this was always a 5-10 year plan even if it’s not him at the head.

English was moving program forward, not the most popular guy for various reasons but it wa improvement over the previous 2 coaches. Hewitt did a lot of damage and Paulsen just was never going to be that guy, the personality didn’t work, the coaching style didn’t work: need someone young hungry and willing to fight. Maybe in 5-10 years we can talk about consistency.

For now let’s just win the games we can win and show back to back to back 20 win seasons and grow from there:
 

GunstonsGhost

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Patriots wearing the new black uniforms. Never been a fan of the color scheme, looks too much like vcu.

Also, Maddox dressed out and warming up. Let's go!
 

daveshac

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I could be overreacting to a few sub-par opponents, but it definitely feels like this team is improving on offense.

The defense has been high quality for most of the season. I’m really interested to see whether their offense can continue to get better in the teeth of A10 play.
 

FreeGunston12

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Jared Billups . . .

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