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That is correct, it is not a stand-alone building.

Donations can be made by simply calling the patriot club at the number that was given at the end of the video. How much easier should it be?

We should probably add a micro page on GoMason with links from the landing page, the Men's basketball page and on Facebook. That would pull in more potential donors.


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gmutd127

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We should probably add a micro page on GoMason with links from the landing page, the Men's basketball page and on Facebook. That would pull in more potential donors.


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Of course, I agree, and my belief is that is in the works. My main point is, its pretty easy to pick up the phone dial and say id like to donate.
 

Pablo

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Glad to hear they are soliciting funds directly for this project (even if it is not a dedicated practice facility...). That is definitely a step in the right direction. Would be nice if they made it easy for people to specifically donate to it, though.

Brian,

As proposed, it will be a dedicated basketball practice facility (even though it will be incorporated within the RAC complex) - see http://giantkiller.co/2016/05/12/a-look-at-the-old-proposed-mason-basketball-practice-facility/.
 

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Brian,

As proposed, it will be a dedicated basketball practice facility (even though it will be incorporated within the RAC complex) - see http://giantkiller.co/2016/05/12/a-look-at-the-old-proposed-mason-basketball-practice-facility/.

Yes, I understand there will be a portion of the RAC dedicated to the basketball teams. That is better than nothing.

Where I was going with my comment was that it is a step down from what was discussed when a practice facility was originally talked about in the 2007ish time frame. I believe our long awaited hall of fame was going to be in the new practice facility if I am remember correctly. Doing it as part of the RAC checks off training part of the box, assuming that the team will have 24/7 access to it (they will right?). I don't think it will be as impressive to recruits, though, as a separate building would be. I also think they are losing an opportunity to attract a big donor to put their name on a separate building. That might be a wash, though, as they are hopefully able to do it cheaper this way.
 
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That is correct, it is not a stand-alone building.

Donations can be made by simply calling the patriot club at the number that was given at the end of the video. How much easier should it be?
I know you like to jump on my posts since you work in the ticketing office and I have been critical of that department. That part of my post was in reference to comments other people had made that there was no obvious way to ensure your donation went to where you wanted it to go. The fact that they don't have a predefined category in the donation form, yes it could be made easier. Doing so would give the impression that this is legit and being done right. Most places in the donation business would tell you to put a special code in the form if it wasn't already available.
 

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We had a $590,000 donation from Barnes and Noble back in 2008, I wonder how much is in our "Basketball Practice Facility Construction Fund" now?
I heard the money from B&N was reassigned to the baseball stadium project (with B&N's approval).
 

Pablo

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Yes, I understand there will be a portion of the RAC dedicated to the basketball teams. That is better than nothing.

Where I was going with my comment was that it is a step down from what was discussed when a practice facility was originally talked about in the 2007ish time frame. I believe our long awaited hall of fame was going to be in the new practice facility if I am remember correctly. Doing it as part of the RAC checks off training part of the box, assuming that the team will have 24/7 access to it (they will right?). I don't think it will be as impressive to recruits, though, as a separate building would be. I also think they are losing an opportunity to attract a big donor to put their name on a separate building. That might be a wash, though, as they are hopefully able to do it cheaper this way.

Brian,

If it's a state-of-the-art facility, I don't believe that recruits will care if it isn't a separate building. With the new addition, I would expect 24/7 access to the facility.
 
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Pablo

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I know you like to jump on my posts since you work in the ticketing office and I have been critical of that department. That part of my post was in reference to comments other people had made that there was no obvious way to ensure your donation went to where you wanted it to go. The fact that they don't have a predefined category in the donation form, yes it could be made easier. Doing so would give the impression that this is legit and being done right. Most places in the donation business would tell you to put a special code in the form if it wasn't already available.

So, a poster (gmutd127) who works in the ticket office says we have the worst facilities in the A10 :
  1. "It is hard to recruit when your facilities are the worst in the entire A-10 conference. It is not easy to recruit when your up against the facilities that players at places like vcu, Richmond, and Dayton have access to."
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So, a poster (gmutd127) who works in the ticket office says we have the worst facilities in the A10 :
  1. "It is hard to recruit when your facilities are the worst in the entire A-10 conference. It is not easy to recruit when your up against the facilities that players at places like vcu, Richmond, and Dayton have access to."
    gmutd127, Nov 18, 2016Report

Which is interesting since a La Salle fan who came to our game this year said we had one of the best arenas in the A10. At least I think it was a La Salle fan, might have been Fordham. At the very least, we are ahead of Fordham.


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We don't have the worst facilities in the A-10.

We're nowhere near the top either, but once the practice facility and locker room upgrades are done, Dave will have a lot of what he needs to build a consistent championship-level program.
 

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We don't have the worst facilities in the A-10.

We're nowhere near the top either, but once the practice facility and locker room upgrades are done, Dave will have a lot of what he needs to build a consistent championship-level program.
Where would the RAC facility rank once finished? Obviously vcu would probably be better, UMass has a stand alone facility but it looks pretty minimalist. Short of that I don't know anyone else's facilities.
 

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Where would the RAC facility rank once finished? Obviously vcu would probably be better, UMass has a stand alone facility but it looks pretty minimalist. Short of that I don't know anyone else's facilities.

vcu and UMass certainly spent more than anyone in the A-10 on their practice facilities by a wide margin.

SLU has a facility attached to their arena, which is the best in the league bar none.

Saint Joe's also has a nice practice gym.

Hard to say where we'll fit until our facility is done, but it will probably be toward the upper-middle of the league.

We're sure to be ahead of GW, LaSalle and Fordham, none of whom have a dedicated basketball facility.
 

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I am trying to understand our practice facility plan, but can't seem to find much official information other than what was in the Mason spirit. Anyone have a link to any official information?

Phase one of the RAC, as far as ball is concerned, sounds like only the Cage gym gets done.

Then there is the locker room, which is in EBA. That is getting some nice upgrades with a lounge and film room.

Do I have that right? If so, isn't one of the big reasons they need a practice facility because they get pushed out of EBA so frequently? What will be the flow? Practice in RAC and then walk to EBA to shower in locker room or to break down film? But that is only if an event isn't impeding access.
 

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I am trying to understand our practice facility plan, but can't seem to find much official information other than what was in the Mason spirit. Anyone have a link to any official information?

Phase one of the RAC, as far as ball is concerned, sounds like only the Cage gym gets done.

Then there is the locker room, which is in EBA. That is getting some nice upgrades with a lounge and film room.

Do I have that right? If so, isn't one of the big reasons they need a practice facility because they get pushed out of EBA so frequently? What will be the flow? Practice in RAC and then walk to EBA to shower in locker room or to break down film? But that is only if an event isn't impeding access.

According to the Giant Killer blog, the practice facility will have dedicated locker rooms and a screening room as well:

http://giantkiller.co/2016/05/12/a-look-at-the-old-proposed-mason-basketball-practice-facility/

Looks like there's also a dedicated athletic academic success building that's being planned for across the street.

For marketing purposes, I think it would be crazy NOT to include the total cost of the RAC Renovation + Practice Gym Expansion + Academic Support Building...somewhere along the lines of 25 to 30 million total. I mean, that just makes sense.
 

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http://tuscany.gmu.edu/depts/executive/bov.gmu.edu/document/Finance & Land Use Committee - 2.11.2016.pdf:

"B. Basketball Training, Wrestling and Athlete Academic Support Center (FY 2017 $15,500,000) (ACTION)

This request seeks authorization for construction of a Basketball Training Facility as an addition to the Recreation and Athletic Complex (RAC) and a Wrestling Facility/Athletic Academic Support Center as an addition to the existing Field House on the Fairfax Campus. The total project costs for all three elements is $15,500,000 based on construction cost of $400/SF.

Basketball Training Facility - the existing Cage Gym would be renovated to provide a much needed practice facility for both the Men’s and the Women’s basketball teams. The teams currently practice in multiple locations and are often unable to practice due to scheduling conflicts in shared venues. A dedicated gym and administrative space to support the basketball program will greatly enhance the quality of the team and the ability to successfully recruit new and talented players. The program for the Practice Facility addition is approximately 14,500 GSF and includes a strength and conditioning room, men’s and women’s locker rooms, team lounges, coach’s offices, and a video screening room. The project includes renovation costs and new construction.

Wrestling Facility - the existing wrestling room occupies 2,500 SF of a 32-year old modular building attached to the west side of the existing Field House. The existing room accommodates two wrestling mats but does not provide adequate clearance, ceiling height, lighting or ventilation. In addition, a modular building of this age is approaching the end of its useful life. The proposed wrestling room would be a permanent addition to the Field House. It would be approximately 7,600 GSF and would accommodate three regulation wrestling mats with required clearances.

Athlete Academic Support Center - the existing Academic Support Center is housed in a 7,000 GSF modular building located in the parking lot adjacent to the RAC. The building is approaching the end of its useful life and the existing spaces do not provide adequate technology or a learning environment suited to current students. The program for the proposed Academic Support Center is approximately 4,800 GSF and includes a technology rich Academic Resource Center, individual and group study spaces, and administrative and faculty offices. The Center would provide a valuable resource in support of the academic success of the University’s athletes and would enhance our ability to successfully recruit new and talented players.

The entire project will be funded using non-general fund authority and is 100% donor (gift) funded."
 
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I am trying to understand our practice facility plan, but can't seem to find much official information other than what was in the Mason spirit. Anyone have a link to any official information?

Phase one of the RAC, as far as ball is concerned, sounds like only the Cage gym gets done.

Then there is the locker room, which is in EBA. That is getting some nice upgrades with a lounge and film room.

Do I have that right? If so, isn't one of the big reasons they need a practice facility because they get pushed out of EBA so frequently? What will be the flow? Practice in RAC and then walk to EBA to shower in locker room or to break down film? But that is only if an event isn't impeding access.
Phase 1: Renovate the existing stuff: Cage Gym, EBA locker rooms, etc.
Phase 2: Build new stuff at the RAC: offices, dedicated locker rooms, academic support space, etc.
 
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