2019 Recruiting

FreeGunston12

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I think current upgrades put us on a similar level with most A10 and above schools, but given that paulsen is looking for something very specific in his recruits the flashiness of facilities etc. doesn’t seem to match up. If a kid isn’t buying what paulsen is selling all the upgrades in the world won’t matter.

Now that, in theory, we have a solid base, e.g. arena, band, and practice facility, what else do we need to have for recruiting purposes that would really seal the deal?

And that’s a genuine question, what else do we need to do from a facilities standpoint? Until we start winning games I can really justify more for the sake of saying we have more.
I hear ya. Not sure about facilities. But man does campus seem boring. I didn’t grow up here, but I’ve worked in the public schools around the area for a while now. I’m not sure how you change the perspective of the school as a whole, but I think that’s what we’re fighting against. Mason is still seen as just a commuter school that doesn’t offer a fun college experience. I think campus morale is at a low, and I think recruits can get that picture when they come to visit.
 

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Campus was half what it was back in 2003 etc. We got some good players then. Not buying it. The program needs to start winning.
 

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I hear ya. Not sure about facilities. But man does campus seem boring. I didn’t grow up here, but I’ve worked in the public schools around the area for a while now. I’m not sure how you change the perspective of the school as a whole, but I think that’s what we’re fighting against. Mason is still seen as just a commuter school that doesn’t offer a fun college experience. I think campus morale is at a low, and I think recruits can get that picture when they come to visit.
How is campus morale at a low? What are you seeing?
 

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Yeah I’d like to get more on the morale is low perspective. If anything it seems to be higher, students actually wear mason gear and are choosing to go to mason because of the academic reputation. Partnership with FAirfax has also expanded and seems to be better than when I graduated. More students live on campus than ever and there’s also 1,000,000 other things to do than watch a middling basketball team if you picked the school for academics or some other reason (which is highly likely because most of the current students probably weren’t even conscious of the FF).

Not sure that there needs to be a rage and party atmosphere on campus but I do hope that the Mason police and administrators have started to be more laid back. Not sure if the zero tolerance enforcement of the past is what you’re referring to.

Are students not as engaged with basketball? Yeah I’d agree with that given what i see at games. But a lot of that has to do with not winning In the last decade.
 

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Yeah I’d like to get more on the morale is low perspective. If anything it seems to be higher, students actually wear mason gear and are choosing to go to mason because of the academic reputation. Partnership with FAirfax has also expanded and seems to be better than when I graduated. More students live on campus than ever and there’s also 1,000,000 other things to do than watch a middling basketball team if you picked the school for academics or some other reason (which is highly likely because most of the current students probably weren’t even conscious of the FF).

Not sure that there needs to be a rage and party atmosphere on campus but I do hope that the Mason police and administrators have started to be more laid back. Not sure if the zero tolerance enforcement of the past is what you’re referring to.

Are students not as engaged with basketball? Yeah I’d agree with that given what i see at games. But a lot of that has to do with not winning In the last decade.
Yeah, from what I’ve seen from down here in VB, high schooler interest in Mason has never been higher. Kids seem to recognize that there’s thousands of people living on campus and most of the place is brand new.
 
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Yeah I’d like to get more on the morale is low perspective. If anything it seems to be higher, students actually wear mason gear and are choosing to go to mason because of the academic reputation.
I think there is a big misconception about mason academics. The university is becoming less selective. The acceptance rate is 81%, the same as Radford. The president said he wants Mason to be a university for all people not the stereotypical college student (paraphrasing).
 

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I’m glad y’all are hearing such positive things about campus life. My statement was based on what my current and former students tell me about their perception and experiences at Mason. Again, there is probably a dichotomy of experience between locals and non-locals.

As DJ3 pointed out, I think the acceptance rate and yield (only about 1 in every 5 students admitted end up enrolling) isn’t helping the perception of Mason as a quality academic school nor as a first choice for many prospective students.

I’m also disappointed in the seemingly low number of people willing to support the alumni team in the TBT. Currently 215 people have signed up as supporters. With the university’s size, you’d think we could pull together to support guys that are largely responsible for putting our school on the map.
 

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I think there is a big misconception about mason academics. The university is becoming less selective. The acceptance rate is 81%, the same as Radford. The president said he wants Mason to be a university for all people not the stereotypical college student (paraphrasing).

That's the New American University model. I'm not necessarily sold on it myself, but inflating your selectivity model the way Northeastern has doesn't necessarily make you a better school either.

As for academics and the students who go to the schools:

Radford average GPA 3.24, average SAT score is 1033

George Mason average GPA 3.66, average SAT score 1197

So, let's not necessarily look at how many get accepted, let's look at who is applying and being admitted to the university.

I also think you're going to have a higher acceptance rate, also, because of where GMU is located and the fact that it serves as a continuing education institution for local professionals. You aren't going to get that at a Radford or a JMU or a UVA or a Tech.
 

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I don’t know the story here, but even La Salle just picked up a 4*. Ouch.

Are we not hearing anything about 2019 targets anymore because that’s the way the coaching staff likes it, or because we are planning on holding onto the last scholarship?
 

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I don’t know the story here, but even La Salle just picked up a 4*. Ouch.

Are we not hearing anything about 2019 targets anymore because that’s the way the coaching staff likes it, or because we are planning on holding onto the last scholarship?
We have no idea if he can coach yet but Ashley Howard did a complete roster overhaul in 1 full year..... we are on year 5 now and Paulsen has no roster identity.....
 

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I don’t know the story here, but even La Salle just picked up a 4*. Ouch.

Are we not hearing anything about 2019 targets anymore because that’s the way the coaching staff likes it, or because we are planning on holding onto the last scholarship?
What is the name? Wow not loking good for us
 

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What is the name? Wow not loking good for us
this offseason they have signed:
4 star transfer Clifton Moore
3 star transfer Scott Spencer
4 star freshman Sherif Kenney
3 star freshman Ayinde Hikim
3 star freshman Brandon Stone

Lasalle is also like the 5th best school in Philadelphia, in the middle of the hood, shitty facilities and no basketball pedigree.... and look what Howard is able to do.....
 

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this offseason they have signed:
4 star transfer Clifton Moore
3 star transfer Scott Spencer
4 star freshman Sherif Kenney
3 star freshman Ayinde Hikim
3 star freshman Brandon Stone

Lasalle is also like the 5th best school in Philadelphia, in the middle of the hood, shitty facilities and no basketball pedigree.... and look what Howard is able to do.....
we are being killed as being involved with 4 stars means something!
 
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That's the New American University model. I'm not necessarily sold on it myself, but inflating your selectivity model the way Northeastern has doesn't necessarily make you a better school either.

As for academics and the students who go to the schools:

Radford average GPA 3.24, average SAT score is 1033

George Mason average GPA 3.66, average SAT score 1197

So, let's not necessarily look at how many get accepted, let's look at who is applying and being admitted to the university.

I also think you're going to have a higher acceptance rate, also, because of where GMU is located and the fact that it serves as a continuing education institution for local professionals. You aren't going to get that at a Radford or a JMU or a UVA or a Tech.
Good points.
 
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