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I really feel like Xavier or Greene are going to run point. Also think Miller and Mar will start together. We’ll be much longer with either of those lineups (6’2, 6’4, 6’6, 6’7, 6’8). Greene, Kier, Miller, Mar, Calixte would be a damn good defensive team. The question is, will it be a trash offensive team?

It's interesting to see the younger talent starting to impose upon the roster. The problem with DP is he will be unwarrantedly ultra loyal to a certain few ( ie Reuter over Calixte). I think that changes after Keir graduates, but even next year he shouldnt get starter minutes if other guys are better. I worry Kier having a similar final year as Otis did (under performed from the start) due to the conference being loaded. Kier does have better size than Otis and can defend/rebound, but will need to fix his release.
 

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I really feel like Xavier or Greene are going to run point. Also think Miller and Mar will start together. We’ll be much longer with either of those lineups (6’2, 6’4, 6’6, 6’7, 6’8). Greene, Kier, Miller, Mar, Calixte would be a damn good defensive team. The question is, will it be a trash offensive team?
That lineup dribbles the ball out of bounds at least ten times per game and possibly makes 3 three pointers a game.... Also not quite sure how you think Greene can run the point... but we will see. Hartwell will be the starting PG for the squad
 

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That lineup dribbles the ball out of bounds at least ten times per game and possibly makes 3 three pointers a game.... Also not quite sure how you think Greene can run the point... but we will see. Hartwell will be the starting PG for the squad

I have no idea who is going to replace Otis, but for four of those five, I have a hard time seeing how they won’t see the majority of minutes. It’s all about for that fifth spot. Will it be Hartwell as a one-to-one replacement or will we not play with a traditional point guard a la 2011 and play the best defensive lineup? Probably depends on who and how they progress.
 

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Hartwell did a damn good job running the point when he got time. His speed is an asset also. He also shot well.
 

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I have no idea who is going to replace Otis, but for four of those five, I have a hard time seeing how they won’t see the majority of minutes. It’s all about for that fifth spot. Will it be Hartwell as a one-to-one replacement or will we not play with a traditional point guard a la 2011 and play the best defensive lineup? Probably depends on who and how they progress.
Hartwell was better than Otis for many a spurts last season... I see absolutely no reason why he won't run the point for the 19-20 Patriots. Outside of Kier he might be our next best player this season if his development continued. Absolutely love his game. (EDIT) "Unless Xavier can come in and take the job... it is definitely open for competition I just really like Hartwell's game" Take Mar out of your lineup and keep it Hartwell, Greene, Kier, Miller Calixte.... be super athletic and fast... Hopefully Mar figured out his last season demons and can be a contributor, but if he plays like he did before his injury last year he should ride the pine.... was a liability his sophomore season... can't believe that happened
 
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Shocker. You don’t think anyone on the squad can do anything good. Color us surprised. :yawn:
I think you only read what you want to see and that's ok by me. I always support the players (other than Reuter because Paulsen's nepotism cost us the first half of the season and set Calixte back unfairly)... Huge Aj and Calixte guy (wish they could be utilized properly at all) and Otis saved the program for many fans that would have quit after Hewitt left... Just think throwing out Greene at the PG spot is a disservice to his game and to any fathomable game plan that a good coach could think of... but what do I know?
 

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I think you only read what you want to see and that's ok by me. I always support the players (other than Reuter because Paulsen's nepotism cost us the first half of the season and set Calixte back unfairly)... Huge Aj and Calixte guy (wish they could be utilized properly at all) and Otis saved the program for many fans that would have quit after Hewitt left... Just think throwing out Greene at the PG spot is a disservice to his game and to any fathomable game plan that a good coach could think of... but what do I know?
Huh? Greene as a PG nobody thinks that unless they do not know GMU basketball
 

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I think you only read what you want to see and that's ok by me. I always support the players (other than Reuter because Paulsen's nepotism cost us the first half of the season and set Calixte back unfairly)... Huge Aj and Calixte guy (wish they could be utilized properly at all) and Otis saved the program for many fans that would have quit after Hewitt left... Just think throwing out Greene at the PG spot is a disservice to his game and to any fathomable game plan that a good coach could think of... but what do I know?
I’m glad you think you are supporting the players. For the record, of the returners, I’d like to see Kier at the point with Hartwell coming in as a spark off the bench. If XJ can come in ready, then great.

Before you bash Kier at point because he had some sloppy passes at times last year, here’s my reasoning:
Kier is our best player and does his best work off of the dribble. True, most of that has been slashing from the wing, but I won’t discount his ability to adapt his game and improve if DP is preparing him to play the 1 this summer. I want the ball in his hands this year. Kier at point would allow a combination of Miller/Mar/AJ at the 3/4 which you say would lead to dribbling the ball out of bounds 10 times per game. But hey, we turned it over 13 times per game last year and I’d prefer the ball going out of bounds instead of giving the other team a fast break so . . .

Speaking of that possible lineup, I think I’d prefer AJ at the 4 over Mar, but that would mean Oduro would have to be ready to contribute solid minutes. Hopefully Mar bounces back from his injury and sophomore slump.

Finally, this is all assuming DP runs a very similar offense to years past. One wrinkle I’d love to see DP add if he uses the bigger lineup is to have someone other than the 5 setting the ball screens. Reuter didn’t look to me to be well suited for the screen and roll. I’m not sure Calixte is either. He seems to do best when catching the ball on the backside block/short corner. IMO, AJ or Miller might be better to set the ball screens. They can probably catch and finish better on the roll motion or maybe even give the option to pop for a jumper.
 

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I’m glad you think you are supporting the players. For the record, of the returners, I’d like to see Kier at the point with Hartwell coming in as a spark off the bench. If XJ can come in ready, then great.

Before you bash Kier at point because he had some sloppy passes at times last year, here’s my reasoning:
Kier is our best player and does his best work off of the dribble. True, most of that has been slashing from the wing, but I won’t discount his ability to adapt his game and improve if DP is preparing him to play the 1 this summer. I want the ball in his hands this year. Kier at point would allow a combination of Miller/Mar/AJ at the 3/4 which you say would lead to dribbling the ball out of bounds 10 times per game. But hey, we turned it over 13 times per game last year and I’d prefer the ball going out of bounds instead of giving the other team a fast break so . . .

Speaking of that possible lineup, I think I’d prefer AJ at the 4 over Mar, but that would mean Oduro would have to be ready to contribute solid minutes. Hopefully Mar bounces back from his injury and sophomore slump.

Finally, this is all assuming DP runs a very similar offense to years past. One wrinkle I’d love to see DP add if he uses the bigger lineup is to have someone other than the 5 setting the ball screens. Reuter didn’t look to me to be well suited for the screen and roll. I’m not sure Calixte is either. He seems to do best when catching the ball on the backside block/short corner. IMO, AJ or Miller might be better to set the ball screens. They can probably catch and finish better on the roll motion or maybe even give the option to pop for a jumper.
Great response..

I don't hate the idea of Kier running point. In fact if Hartwell isn't starting and Xavier acts like a freshman (expected) than that is who it would have to be. I was simply stating that having Greene at the point like another poster wrote is a silly idea and frankly even Paulsen wouldn't do that.

I would much rather prefer AJ over Mar at the 4 with Calixte at 5. But it will never happen. Paulsen let Mar and Reuter butcher our offense the entire beginning of the season before Mar's injury. I too see something special in Mar... but he was flat out horrible last year before his injury and DP still played him way too much.. Not expecting anything different other than Mar improving and deserving those minutes.

To your point about ball screens... If AJ plays the 4 this year (I am not religious but I am praying) he could have so many easy baskets off the screen and role or pick and pop... (don't cross your fingers though)... This is where I come off "not a Mason fan"... Paulsen is way too thick headed and we will probably not see this (if it didn't happen after Mars injury last year it will probably never happen)...
 

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@GMUgemini literally said Greene at PG two comments above my original lol.. And I am such a Debbie downer to everyone...

Hey, I didn't say it would be optimal. One of Greene or Kier are going to be guarding the opposing team's best 1-3 anyway. We also didn't run a traditional point guard in 2011 (Long, Smith, Hancock -- and don't tell me either Long or Smith were traditional point guards. We all know the only reason why that worked is because Hancock had balls that dragged on the floor) and did just fine (I know, I know, different era, different coach), but when you run a motion offense, who starts the offense (which has been Kier a lot over the last two years anyway) doesn't matter nearly as much.

If Miller comes in around 210+, I'll buy him at the 4, but he was pushed around defensively way too much last season for me to pencil him in there. He seems to want to be a wing, which is what he played in high school, and think that's where we should want him playing. Mar seems much better suited to being that stretch 4 and he has played a lot better when he's next to Calixte. If he comes out playing like trash like he did to start last season, he probably should be riding the bench (we "should" have enough depth at the 3 and 4 that we don't need a bad player taking up minutes there).

I agree with you I want to see AJ as our 4, but given our current roster I don't see that happening (at least as a permanent gig), wouldn't mind seeing him backing up both Calixte and whoever starts there and getting at least 20 mpg if he can put it together).

If Hartwell or Xavier starts, either Mar or Greene are going to get squeezed out of the starting lineup, I think, and I just don't know where Paulsen's head is at there. We will find out.

The dark horse we keep leaving off all our starting lineups is Boyd. I still like him as our 6th man who can come in for several different players, but you never know.
 

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Hey, I didn't say it would be optimal. One of Greene or Kier are going to be guarding the opposing team's best 1-3 anyway. We also didn't run a traditional point guard in 2011 (Long, Smith, Hancock -- and don't tell me either Long or Smith were traditional point guards. We all know the only reason why that worked is because Hancock had balls that dragged on the floor) and did just fine (I know, I know, different era, different coach), but when you run a motion offense, who starts the offense (which has been Kier a lot over the last two years anyway) doesn't matter nearly as much.

If Miller comes in around 210+, I'll buy him at the 4, but he was pushed around defensively way too much last season for me to pencil him in there. He seems to want to be a wing, which is what he played in high school, and think that's where we should want him playing. Mar seems much better suited to being that stretch 4 and he has played a lot better when he's next to Calixte. If he comes out playing like trash like he did to start last season, he probably should be riding the bench (we "should" have enough depth at the 3 and 4 that we don't need a bad player taking up minutes there).

I agree with you I want to see AJ as our 4, but given our current roster I don't see that happening (at least as a permanent gig), wouldn't mind seeing him backing up both Calixte and whoever starts there and getting at least 20 mpg if he can put it together).

If Hartwell or Xavier starts, either Mar or Greene are going to get squeezed out of the starting lineup, I think, and I just don't know where Paulsen's head is at there. We will find out.

The dark horse we keep leaving off all our starting lineups is Boyd. I still like him as our 6th man who can come in for several different players, but you never know.
Great post

Much better when you explain yourself on the Greene front.. makes sense now although I still disagree about him ever dribbling the ball up the court unless Kier, Hartwell and Xavier are all injured.

We did not have a traditional one that year but Long is better suited for it than Greene is.. (probably about even with Kier)

Having no backup center is going to bone AJ again this year as he will have to play the 5. (PAULSEN THAT IS NOT WHERE HE BELONGS)

I think it is safe that Hartwell starts. Paulsen seems to absolutely love him and I think he should start as well. (disclaimer: if Xavier comes in and is as good as I hope he is he might take it)

Boyd can continue being the dark horse.. I love his effort defensively but other than the buzzer beaters and occasional threes I absolutely hate his offensive game.. great kid and I wish I liked him more as a basketball player but I don't. Always root hard for "My Boyd" though
 

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My hot take. Hartwell will lead the team in scoring.
1. Hartwell
2. Kier
3. Miller
4. Mar
5. Calixte
I know DP wants Mar to be a wing, but he is effective in the paint. Hes quicker than most true bigs.
 

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Blown away that people don't think we'll see a ton of Kier-Greene-Boyd (if healthy) on the floor next year
 

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Really enjoy the last few posts. Glad we’re talking basketball.

For some reason Kier as PG gives me horrible flashbacks to 2007 when Gabe had to run the point when Jordan Carter went down. And we all know what happened.

Kier is serviceable to bring the ball up, but I don’t want that full time. Unlike Otis, he can’t create a jump shot off the dribble if we need something outside 15ft. His release is too slow and he’s a bit looser with his dribble. I also think it takes Kier away from his strength of attacking the rim and will limit his ability to catch and shoot 3s with plenty of time to get his shot up.

Now to be fair, haven’t seen enough from Hartwell to know if he can consistently create a shot over bigger defenders. But his handle is better and he seems to make the right play.

Jordan carter wasn’t setting the world in fire but he played a critical role in handling the ball. I see hartwell doing the same next year.
 

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Yeah pretty much ruins ooc right out of the gate. Kinda like last year.

It’d be fun to at least try and convince ourselves we’ll have a shot of an at large in December.

Considering the field, we will probably have to win our holiday tournament to entertain that notion (or at least be runner-up).
 
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