News Welcome Javon Greene

[Patriotsince81]

Y'all.

It might be time to have a conversation about Javon Greenes shot.

He has been sort of a disaster since that Auburn game.

**Note: I made this post and he immediately went on to have six points on two shots in the first half.

The Herndon Jinx is apparently a thing**

Not trying to bash the kid but you are what your stats say you are. For the year he is 44/130 or 33.8% overall and just 17/77 or 22.1% from 3.

 

[Falco]

I love his ability to get to the rim, or at least draw contact

 

[MasonSAE4]

He can drive, but that’s not really what we need with Otis, Kier, and Boyd already out there. All of whom are also more of a 3 point threat.

 

[GMUgemini]

He can drive, but that’s not really what we need with Otis, Kier, and Boyd already out there. All of whom are also more of a 3 point threat.

We need him to play defense when he’s in the floor. I don’t care if he shoots lights out if he’s getting stops.

Also, if we have other shooters out there, no reason he needs to be trawling the 3 point line. Dive and finish or drive and dish. He probably shouldn’t be out there with Kier though until he can prove he can hit from outside consistently though.


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[MasonSAE4]

We need him to play defense when he’s in the floor. I don’t care if he shoots lights out if he’s getting stops.

Also, if we have other shooters out there, no reason he needs to be trawling the 3 point line. Dive and finish or drive and dish. He probably shouldn’t be out there with Kier though until he can prove he can hit from outside consistently though.


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His D was great at Richmond, tonight not so much.

 

[Cedric Dempsey]

Not trying to bash the kid but you are what your stats say you are. For the year he is 44/130 or 33.8% overall and just 17/77 or 22.1% from 3.

“Not trying to bash him.”

 

[GMUgemini]

Greene may take longer to get seasoned, which is OK. He's going to be behind Otis and Kier at the 1 and 2 for at least another two seasons. And if he can't outplay JDS, maybe his entire career.

Bryon Allen, for instance, shot .303 overall and .154 from 3 his freshman season. He made a huge jump in his overall shooting percentage his sophomore season (finishing at the rim becomes easier with a full offseason of working out) and by his senior season he shot .391 from 3.

Isaiah Tate is another one who took 2 1/2 seasons to get acclimated and up to speed. By the second half of his junior season we stopped wondering why he was on the floor. And he was key to the success of the 2011 team.

I know we haven't been allowed to be patient with our freshmen classes in Paulsen's first three years, but Greene has shown he can play at this level. Whether he becomes an eventual starter or not is up to him.

 

[patriot2000]

I love the example of Allen. He turned out to be an exceptional contributor and I remember being concerned after his freshman year. Frosh sometimes show flashes of what they're capable of but can't do it consistently. Greene has shown those flashes, and under Paulsen it's generally safe to assume that those "flashes" develop into consistent play

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[GMUSig03]

A few of us had this exact discussion last night and I brought up Allen as someone who struggled to see the Court as a freshman and ended up being an all conference level player.

I'm really excited about Javon as a Junior after Otis and Jaire graduate.

 

[GMUgemini]

A few of us had this exact discussion last night and I brought up Allen as someone who struggled to see the Court as a freshman and ended up being an all conference level player.

I'm really excited about Javon as a Junior after Otis and Jaire graduate.

I feel the same way about AJ. If he can move to the four and Mar the 3 their junior seasons, that should be a formidable lineup.


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[mkaufman1]

Greene may take longer to get seasoned, which is OK. He's going to be behind Otis and Kier at the 1 and 2 for at least another two seasons. And if he can't outplay JDS, maybe his entire career.

Bryon Allen, for instance, shot .303 overall and .154 from 3 his freshman season. He made a huge jump in his overall shooting percentage his sophomore season (finishing at the rim becomes easier with a full offseason of working out) and by his senior season he shot .391 from 3.

Isaiah Tate is another one who took 2 1/2 seasons to get acclimated and up to speed. By the second half of his junior season we stopped wondering why he was on the floor. And he was key to the success of the 2011 team.

I know we haven't been allowed to be patient with our freshmen classes in Paulsen's first three years, but Greene has shown he can play at this level. Whether he becomes an eventual starter or not is up to him.

I completely agree. I think every freshman that has come through the program (and even not stayed) has had to play a much bigger role than asked. I suspect that will go down as the years evolve.

As far as Greene, I think he definitely has shown flashes. I think we'd all love to see his shot go in more. I'm hopeful that that he will work hard this offseason at that and bring improvement to that aspect and all other aspects of his game. In addition, his ability and length to guard other wings will also be something that will be needed going forward.

 

[Herndon]

I feel the same way about AJ. If he can move to the four and Mar the 3 their junior seasons, that should be a formidable lineup.


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In my experience, tweeners are nearly always more successfull when they play "up" a position.

It's almost always better to be smaller but quicker for your position than bigger but slower, particularly in the frontcourt.

I see AJ as a 5 and Mar as a 4, eventually.

 

[FreeGunston12]

In my experience, tweeners are nearly always more successfull when they play "up" a position.

It's almost always better to be smaller but quicker for your position than bigger but slower, particularly in the frontcourt.

I see AJ as a 5 and Mar as a 4, eventually.

Agree 100%. Mar has struggled recently just with catching the ball on the wing or in transition. He’s no 3 in this day and age. But he can be a quality stretch/face-up 4.

 

[Patriotsince81]

https://gomason.com/news/2018/7/29/...-there-greene-ready-for-sophomore-season.aspx

 

[Washingtonian]

https://gomason.com/news/2018/7/29/...-there-greene-ready-for-sophomore-season.aspx

With everyone coming back – Mason is the only Division I team in the country that can boast 100 percent of its scoring returning – the Patriots most likely won't be flying under the radar once conference season rolls around.

 

[Washingtonian]

https://gomason.com/news/2018/11/10...one-on-both-sides-of-the-ball-in-2018-19.aspx

 

[patriotchild]

So, something else we haven't really mentioned. Javon seems to be our X-factor and we've missed him in some big games this year.

@vcu - 2pts 7reb 1ast 2to
@sbu - 2pts 2reb 0ast 1to
@slu - 2pts 7reb 0ast 1to

Other than against DUQ he hasn't put up double figure points against any of the top 7 teams this year.

Let's hope he brings it tonight.

 

[GMU_DCU]

So, something else we haven't really mentioned. Javon seems to be our X-factor and we've missed him in some big games this year.

@vcu - 2pts 7reb 1ast 2to
@sbu - 2pts 2reb 0ast 1to
@slu - 2pts 7reb 0ast 1to

Other than against DUQ he hasn't put up double figure points against any of the top 7 teams this year.

Let's hope he brings it tonight.

3 of the best defensive teams in the league..not suprising. Seems Javon has a hard time getting his shot off against the bigger and stronger teams in the A-10.

 

[patriotchild]

So, something else we haven't really mentioned. Javon seems to be our X-factor and we've missed him in some big games this year.

@vcu - 2pts 7reb 1ast 2to
@sbu - 2pts 2reb 0ast 1to
@slu - 2pts 7reb 0ast 1to

Other than against DUQ he hasn't put up double figure points against any of the top 7 teams this year.

Let's hope he brings it tonight.

update, another offensive let down against a top team

vcu - 2pts 4reb 2ast 0to

 

[GSII]

3 of the best defensive teams in the league..not suprising. Seems Javon has a hard time getting his shot off against the bigger and stronger teams in the A-10.

So get bigger and stronger.