Except when your heckling almost gets the life choked out of you by 6-8, 250-pound JMU power forward Jeff Chambers.
BTW, off topic, but did anybody know that Jeff Chambers is the biological father of Va. Tech QB Logan Thomas?
Small world.
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Except when your heckling almost gets the life choked out of you by 6-8, 250-pound JMU power forward Jeff Chambers.
BTW, off topic, but did anybody know that Jeff Chambers is the biological father of Va. Tech QB Logan Thomas?
Small world.
Scythe
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Agreed. If you're even posting on here about a team, I think it's clear you care about them and are a fan. Fans come in all varieties, some will come and go based on success, others won't. I think it's clear we're all frustrated that we're on the current trajectory that we're on -- but there's really no reason to start flaming each other over it.
I'm a relatively new fan, as Ive only been a Mason fan since I came to campus in 2003 and had to explain "No I don't go to James Madison or George Washington" and got weird looks.
The Pat Center was extremely quiet once Dayton went on their run last night. It was extremely disappointing,and disheartening. In terms of being done, I will never turn my back on the program or team. Everyone has their own definitions of what they need to do and I respect that. If that means just watching on TV, coming on Saturdays, picking and choosing, whatever. I did leave early last night (for the first time) as did my friend. I am in training this week and not feeling well, and so there was enough justification for me to get a chance for some extra rest. Regardless of such, I will continue to watch and go to every game and continue to donate and drag friends to games. While I may not donate as much as I did this year, I don't feel one bad year (yes thats debatable, but regardless) is enough for me to remove myself from a place where I have so many fond memories of beating JMU, ODU, vcu, rushing the ct, laughing with friends etc. It would take drastic measures for me to stop coming to games or watching.
With that being said, I hope many of you decide to continue supporting in some way shape or form, whether Hewitt is the answer or not and that includes if Mason goes 0-16 (gulp) in the A-10 this year.
Thats my .02. Nothing new to those who know me either from the past, recently from here, going to games or twitter or whatever but I felt the need to share.
The Pat Center was extremely quiet once Dayton went on their run last night. It was extremely disappointing,and disheartening. In terms of being done, I will never turn my back on the program or team. Everyone has their own definitions of what they need to do and I respect that. If that means just watching on TV, coming on Saturdays, picking and choosing, whatever. I did leave early last night (for the first time) as did my friend. I am in training this week and not feeling well, and so there was enough justification for me to get a chance for some extra rest. Regardless of such, I will continue to watch and go to every game and continue to donate and drag friends to games. While I may not donate as much as I did this year, I don't feel one bad year (yes thats debatable, but regardless) is enough for me to remove myself from a place where I have so many fond memories of beating JMU, ODU, vcu, rushing the ct, laughing with friends etc. It would take drastic measures for me to stop coming to games or watching.
With that being said, I hope many of you decide to continue supporting in some way shape or form, whether Hewitt is the answer or not and that includes if Mason goes 0-16 (gulp) in the A-10 this year.
Thats my .02. Nothing new to those who know me either from the past, recently from here, going to games or twitter or whatever but I felt the need to share.
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CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY
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We used to go
Someone told me that last year...IT BLEW MY F###ING MIND!!!
Glad their family abandoned basketball. It wasn't for them.
Maybe this is the year Thomas REALLY IMPROVES
Someone told me that last year...IT BLEW MY F###ING MIND!!!
Glad their family abandoned basketball. It wasn't for them.
Maybe this is the year Thomas REALLY IMPROVES
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p8triotfan4life
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I'm not trying to site here and flame. El Presidente needs to el fireo el Athletic Direct-ore y el Head Coach.
CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY
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Translate, please? I don't speak French.
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p8triotfan4life
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if you want to pay me $675K a year to produce exactly 0 wins, I will at least do it with a smile on my face.
Chambers was a mean MFer. Logan was probably better off not having him in his life as a child.
Patriotfan49
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Paraag Maranthe......hell get all our studs locked into reasonable deals, dont you worry lol.
Plus it was convienant that Aldon had his little law tussle, Crabs was hurt and Kaep had a so so year....if they all blew up this year no way we keep them all. But with the current situation, well figure it out.
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So let me get this straight, first you call me out for questioning people's "fan hood" (which I didn't do - I actually said I understand if people stop attending games), and then your gonna call out my "fan hood" because I live half way across the country?
My mind is blown.
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p8triotfan4life
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Corpkid really hit the nail on the head.
An Athletic Director hires 2 re-tread coaches, and his Men's and Women's teams are both 0 for the A-10.
The buck stops with him.
An Athletic Director hires 2 re-tread coaches, and his Men's and Women's teams are both 0 for the A-10.
The buck stops with him.
I'm not ready to call the women's coach a bust yet - I think she deserves a couple years first to do her thing.
As for Hewitt, that's another story. Not having the team ready last night after the strong showing in St Louis is a head scratcher. Major changes need to occur this off-season.
As for Hewitt, that's another story. Not having the team ready last night after the strong showing in St Louis is a head scratcher. Major changes need to occur this off-season.
This. If you sell your stake in the company, you no longer have a right to demand accountability.
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p8triotfan4life
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this should be the better title of the thread.
I think at least two choices need to happens below.
Choice A-Fire, Hewitt, Hire New Head Coach
Choice B-Allow TOC to resign on his own terms, Hire New Athletic Director
Choice C-Keep Hewitt, fire the entire staff even at risk of losing Erik Copes who has been a major disappointment his first three years
Choice D-Entirely re-shape roster (allow Vaughn Gray, AOK, Corey Edwards to transfer)
Choice E-Hire a director of corporate fundraising-sell naming rights to arena, build practice facility, baseball field, etc.- a big strategic thinker/doer
I think at least two choices need to happens below.
Choice A-Fire, Hewitt, Hire New Head Coach
Choice B-Allow TOC to resign on his own terms, Hire New Athletic Director
Choice C-Keep Hewitt, fire the entire staff even at risk of losing Erik Copes who has been a major disappointment his first three years
Choice D-Entirely re-shape roster (allow Vaughn Gray, AOK, Corey Edwards to transfer)
Choice E-Hire a director of corporate fundraising-sell naming rights to arena, build practice facility, baseball field, etc.- a big strategic thinker/doer
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rockster
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This may be extreme but just thought of some down the road scenarios. Let's start with the effect of losing all the rest of our games this year and the pressure it puts on TOC and El Presidente to do something. Knowing how cheap Mason is, probably just some "we are in transition" rhetoric and do nothing. But alas a problem, folks are pissed off and less donations, fewer season tickets, and the program now becomes under financed. Most important question is what is the effect on the university in terms of incoming freshmen, negative publicity, etc. OK, that means some tough decisions have to be made. So hear is my theory:
1. fire Hewitt, take the financial hit, hire a young hungry coach, and hope for the best with recruiting. Yes, we will probably lose the incoming commits we currently have, and who knows maybe Jalen Jenkins jumps ship. Chances of a winning record are slim.
Probability 10%. Mason just won't take the financial hit.
2. Keep Hewitt, and hope he miraculously turns things around with the new commits coming in. No amount of incoming two and three star freshman are going to turn the program around. Who's is going to score with Allen/wright gone? In the meantime the university gets fewer season tickets, becomes less attractive to incoming freshmen, loss of revenue, and most likely another 20 loss season. This just makes matters even worse. Probability 20%
3. Here is a radical outcome. The university is taking such negative publicity, loss of revenue, fewer students coming to Mason, in house fighting, firing of Hewitt and or TOC, a big mess. El Presidente steps in and says the following, " For the betterment of GMU and all our loyal fans over the years , we are going to suspend our basketball operations for two years in order to rebuild/reorganize with the right people for a winning program. This means Hewitt, TOC are gone and we will take this time to search for the correct candidate and re-sell our university to prospects. This financially allows the university to amortize Hewitt/TOC contract over two more years. While this is a difficult outcome to swallow it does at least temporarily take the negatives away, and allows GMU to continue as an institution of higher learning without the shadow of a losing basketball program. Probability more than 20%. Not easy to accept but hey, anything is possible.
Unfortunately we are on a downward spiral and who knows where this is going . but when you separate the emotional from the practical it does put a lot of pressure on the University President, and after all, his main responsibility is to the well being of the University and its students.
1. fire Hewitt, take the financial hit, hire a young hungry coach, and hope for the best with recruiting. Yes, we will probably lose the incoming commits we currently have, and who knows maybe Jalen Jenkins jumps ship. Chances of a winning record are slim.
Probability 10%. Mason just won't take the financial hit.
2. Keep Hewitt, and hope he miraculously turns things around with the new commits coming in. No amount of incoming two and three star freshman are going to turn the program around. Who's is going to score with Allen/wright gone? In the meantime the university gets fewer season tickets, becomes less attractive to incoming freshmen, loss of revenue, and most likely another 20 loss season. This just makes matters even worse. Probability 20%
3. Here is a radical outcome. The university is taking such negative publicity, loss of revenue, fewer students coming to Mason, in house fighting, firing of Hewitt and or TOC, a big mess. El Presidente steps in and says the following, " For the betterment of GMU and all our loyal fans over the years , we are going to suspend our basketball operations for two years in order to rebuild/reorganize with the right people for a winning program. This means Hewitt, TOC are gone and we will take this time to search for the correct candidate and re-sell our university to prospects. This financially allows the university to amortize Hewitt/TOC contract over two more years. While this is a difficult outcome to swallow it does at least temporarily take the negatives away, and allows GMU to continue as an institution of higher learning without the shadow of a losing basketball program. Probability more than 20%. Not easy to accept but hey, anything is possible.
Unfortunately we are on a downward spiral and who knows where this is going . but when you separate the emotional from the practical it does put a lot of pressure on the University President, and after all, his main responsibility is to the well being of the University and its students.
Quentin Daniels
Hall of Famer
That's an awful idea. I bet your team wouldn't even win a single A-10 game!
Oh wait.......
Patriotfan49
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Then you missed to getting it straight. Allow me to help you.
It was hyperbole, Gunnie. Since somebody seems "sensitive" about it, Im sorry but you were calling into light peoples fanhood.....calling people you dont know bandwagon, fickle, fairweather fans (in multiple threads and multiple people have replied to you about it) because they see things different than you, and yes even caveating it with "I wouldnt blame you" is judging and questioning peoples commitment. (Mulitple people have had an issue with you about that lately....)
The point was, since you dont make it to games to "support" the team....are you a bandwagon fan too in your own eyes? To which I would say is not the case at all...
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