The Official Fire Dave Paulsen Thread

[gmutom]

Dave isn't going anywhere, nor should he. He just needs to coach better.

 

[mason lawyer]

Dave isn't going anywhere, nor should he. He just needs to coach better.

Incorrect sir. My source tells me he is on the hot seat. They will make a change at the end of the season if the team does not compete in the A10.

 

[EXpatriot13]

F***ing UMass is hanging with the #6 team in the country. Against a Nevada team that is vastly more athletic and talented. Must be a nice feeling.

 

[PoorManProfit]

Dave isn't going anywhere, nor should he. He just needs to coach better.

Come on man...that’s just lazy.

 

[PoorManProfit]

And f*ck Brad Edwards for extending him for no god damn reason.

Yep, and much like the ‘lil fella, most on these boards jock the AD as well. Ship his a** out too with DP and the DMD and get back to the CAA. Just say you are sorry.

 

[Falco]

There is no way his base is $400k. He never would’ve left a loaded team at Bucknell for that.

Regardless, Mason isn’t buying out multiple years of a contract. It’s just not happening.

Unless DP turns things around, Mason might be his last coaching gig.

 

[gmujim92]

Unless DP turns things around, Mason might be his last coaching gig.

Elle Oh Elle.

 

[gmubrian]

1) Reuter: he was billed as a game changer and he has not been so far.

I disagree, I think he has been a huge game changer...

 

[gmujim92]

Incorrect sir. My source tells me he is on the hot seat. They will make a change at the end of the season if the team does not compete in the A10.

Get your checkbook ready. Time for all of our wealthy donors to step up.

 

[gmubrian]

I am not advocating anything, just providing information:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/spo...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.992a6aee6315

“Paulsen’s deal includes $400,000 in base salary and $300,000 in supplemental compensation. The bonus package is worth up to $400,000 annually...”

“If he is fired before the contract expires, Paulsen would receive half of his base salary for each of the remaining years of the deal.”

If we are correct that he is on contract through 2022 (I could have sworn I saw he was extended after last year but can’t find anything about it)
So, if we were to fire him at the end of this year’s contract, we would owe him $600k.

 

[gmujim92]

I am not advocating anything, just providing information:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/gmu-coach-paulsens-contract-calls-for-up-to-400k-in-annual-bonuses/2015/07/18/87bbdad0-2d66-11e5-960f-22c4ba982ed4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.992a6aee6315

“Paulsen’s deal includes $400,000 in base salary and $300,000 in supplemental compensation. The bonus package is worth up to $400,000 annually...”

“If he is fired before the contract expires, Paulsen would receive half of his base salary for each of the remaining years of the deal.”

If we are correct that he is on contract through 2022 (I could have sworn I saw he was extended after last year but can’t find anything about it)
So, if we were to fire him at the end of this year’s contract, we would owe him $600k.

Interesting. If I were DP, I’d get a new agent ... that’s a terrible deal.

 

[Mason2005]

If he goes under .500 this season there better be a strong consideration to replace him.

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[gmubrian]

Interesting. If I were DP, I’d get a new agent ... that’s a terrible deal.

Funny, I guess there are always different ways to look at things as I was thinking that Brad did a good job negotiating that deal after reading that. It provides a high up-side to a coach, and I assume all moderately successful coaches think they will be hugely successful, and it provides a relatively easy out should things not go as planned.

 

[gmujim92]

Funny, I guess there are always different ways to look at things as I was thinking that Brad did a good job negotiating that deal after reading that. It provides a high up-side to a coach, and I assume all moderately successful coaches think they will be hugely successful, and it provides a relatively easy out should things not go as planned.

My main quibble would be only including the base salary in the buyout. The “supplemental income” is effectively guaranteed and separate from bonuses, so I would’ve insisted that it be included in any buyout calculation.

If DP was bought out of his contract after this season, assuming he has three years left, that’s a difference of $450,000.

Not exactly chump change ... especially considering he already had a good job at Bucknell and thus had leverage in negotiations with Edwards and Cabrera.

 

[Walter]

Funny, I guess there are always different ways to look at things as I was thinking that Brad did a good job negotiating that deal after reading that. It provides a high up-side to a coach, and I assume all moderately successful coaches think they will be hugely successful, and it provides a relatively easy out should things not go as planned.

More college basketball HC contracts should be like this.

 

[gmujim92]

If he goes under .500 this season there better be a strong consideration to replace him.

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And then start the rebuilding process all over again? Another four years minimum in the college basketball wilderness? Ugh.

 

[Mason2005]

And then start the rebuilding process all over again? Another four years minimum in the college basketball wilderness? Ugh.

I believe we can get a higher caliber coach this time around. The program and facilities are much better than what we could offer after Hewitt. We can get a young stud like McCall or a highly sought after assistant like what LaSalle got. The rebuild can go much quicker.

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[gmujim92]

I believe we can get a higher caliber coach this time around. The program and facilities are much better than what we could offer after Hewitt. We can get a young stud like McCall or a highly sought after assistant like what LaSalle got. The rebuild can go much quicker.

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But if Brad whiffed on hiring his guy, why should any of us believe he’ll do better next time? No guarantee whatsoever that we do better than DP.

 

[Mason2005]

But if Brad whiffed on hiring his guy, why should any of us believe he’ll do better next time? No guarantee whatsoever that we do better than DP.

So continue to be a .500 team until Paulsen retires? If that's the case lets go back to a lower tierd conference, the CAA will probably take us back. I want to see consistent wins again.

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[GMUgemini]

And then start the rebuilding process all over again? Another four years minimum in the college basketball wilderness? Ugh.

That feels too defeatist for me.