Next Up - GMU (2-4) vs Davidson (3-3) Saturday, Jan. 25 at 6PM.

[mkaufman1]

No disrespect to the players, I just don’t see the talent. All the players have flashes but they are not consistent.

it’s a good point. I don’t know why that is either other than youth which is a lame response imo. All there is, is hope they grow up.

 

[JimP]

Can someone explain the Green technical to me? How did the other guy not get one for hitting him in the head twice on the drive? That was the turning point IMO. Even if they called a foul on the Davidson player.

Shouldn't there have been a consequence for JAG? Didn't get that play.

 

[gmujim92]

Why are they inconsistent, though? Why does Miller go 0-9 against Davidson? Does he lack talent or is he not being put in a position to excel at what he does?

Miller and Greene both had terrible games. They were put in good position driving to their left several times but couldn’t finish around the rim. We’re not beating anyone when our two leading scorers combine to shoot 5-26.

And yet it was still close with 5 minutes left.

 

[GMU_DCU]

Since when has Davidson been a team of punks? That Jones kid, and Gudmundsson with a couple of cheap plays. Was hoping someone would shut them up but we folded. Pretty much just lost to a team that is better coached and runs a better system than we do. They are like that team of old guys at the YMCA that throw their weight around and outsmart younger more athletic teams. Can’t go 6+ minutes in the second half on the road and win. Frustrating and also totally expected.

 

[GMU_DCU]

Why are they inconsistent, though? Why does Miller go 0-9 against Davidson? Does he lack talent or is he not being put in a position to excel at what he does?

I almost think he was more effective at the four grabbing offensive boards and easy put backs last year.

 

[GSII]

Why are they inconsistent, though? Why does Miller go 0-9 against Davidson? Does he lack talent or is he not being put in a position to excel at what he does?

Miller is not agreessive going to the rim. Too many times he stops his drive and comes back out. Starting to look like Mar. Someone needs to get videos of Jordan driving on people to these two.

 

[GSII]

I almost think he was more effective at the four grabbing offensive boards and easy put backs last year.

That probably wore him out. Not sure thats his game. Maybe if Lil Dave recruit the right players for each position, all the players would be thriving more.

 

[Patriotsince81]

That probably wore him out. Not sure thats his game. Maybe if Lil Dave recruit the right players for each position, all the players would be thriving more.

Many have said, me included, that DP's inability to recruit will be his downfall. We always get the skinny, undersized guys who can't shoot.

 

[Patriotsince81]

"I thought we fought exceptionally hard and played very well defensively until the last four minutes," head coach Dave Paulsen said. "That's where we gave into frustration that we weren't able to score. Some of our good players had off nights. That's going to happen. But that's where we need to have more maturity to be able to get stops and win the game ugly. That's hard to do on the road and against a good team like Davidson."

 

[Patriotsince81]

"I told our guys I was both encouraged and extremely disappointed tonight," Paulsen said. "I'm encouraged because I don't think we're that far away. I love coaching this team and they're working their rear ends off reconfiguring themselves in Justin's absence. I think we're getting better."
I "think" we're getting better. Wow.

 

[GSII]

Yea bc Justin was so integral in the scheme all season. He is lying.

Poor Guy. Running out of excuses. Still throws players under the bus.

 

[GMUgemini]

This was basically a direct replica of last season's game with Davidson, except last year was closer because neither team could hit their shots.

 

[GMUgemini]

Yea bc Justin was so integral in the scheme all season. He is lying.

Poor Guy. Running out of excuses. Still throws players under the bus.

I don't think losing Kier just before the season should be discounted. Someone asked, "who was this offense designed for, because no one on our roster thrives in it." The answer probably is Justin Kier.

Now, Paulsen claims this team is close and he think they're getting better. We need to see evidence of that actually on the floor both individually (Miller, Oduro, Hartwell, XJ looking at you specifically), and collectively (better sharing of the ball on offense, better off ball movement on offense, better rotations on defense, more effective trapping on defense).

 

[mkaufman1]

I don't think losing Kier just before the season should be discounted. Someone asked, "who was this offense designed for, because no one on our roster thrives in it." The answer probably is Justin Kier.

Now, Paulsen claims this team is close and he think they're getting better. We need to see evidence of that actually on the floor both individually (Miller, Oduro, Hartwell, XJ looking at you specifically), and collectively (better sharing of the ball on offense, better off ball movement on offense, better rotations on defense, more effective trapping on defense).

We’ve seen the glimpses of improvement from some of these guys but nothing consistent. Some of that could be contributed to how young they are, but at this point it’s late January and it should be a bit more obvious.

The 4 guys improving over the next year might be the key to Paulsen keeping his job beyond next year at this point. Some of it is just maturity that we hoped to see with the year 3 to year 4 group. But I think these guys are more talented.

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

The 4 guys improving over the next year might be the key to Paulsen keeping his job beyond next year at this point. Some of it is just maturity that we hoped to see with the year 3 to year 4 group.

I usually get excited when a freshman or sophomore shows signs of being a great or even decent player once they get more expereince. But During DP's reign, a linear improvement has been anything but guranteed.

Mar regressed, Otis regressed in his senior year, Calixte has shown minimal improvement etc...

Kier an Grayer notably improved but due to injury/transfering did not work out. Not DP's fault (or is it?)

Normally I'd be able to deal with losing by at least being excited as how good XJ, Oduro, Miller etc. will be as they get more experience. However, there is nothing that makes me think this trend won't continue. Hell, who knows, AJ and Greene could regress in their senior years just as Otis did.

Every team that we have lost to in conference have had major injuries themselves except vcu. Injuries are a good excuse for a year, maybe even two. But when you are in year 5 and injuries are still your main excuse, you are simply doing something wrong. What that something wrong is, I do not know. I'm not a coach nor am I paid to know. But DP is.

A CEO of one of my clients was fired for lack of performance. The company's lack of performance did not seem to be his fault and when we spoke, I was on his side. But in that conversation even he understood that he is ultimatey responsible for success or failure of the organization and literally told me if he were the board of directors, he would have taken the exact same action on the CEO.

 

[mkaufman1]

I usually get excited when a freshman or sophomore shows signs of being a great or even decent player once they get more expereince. But During DP's reign, a linear improvement has been anything but guranteed.

Mar regressed, Otis regressed in his senior year, Calixte has shown minimal improvement etc...

Kier an Grayer notably improved but due to injury/transfering did not work out. Not DP's fault (or is it?)

Normally I'd be able to deal with losing by at least being excited as how good XJ, Oduro, Miller etc. will be as they get more experience. However, there is nothing that makes me think this trend won't continue. Hell, who knows, AJ and Greene could regress in their senior years just as Otis did.

Every team that we have lost to in conference have had major injuries themselves except vcu. Injuries are a good excuse for a year, maybe even two. But when you are in year 5 and injuries are still your main excuse, you are simply doing something wrong. What that something wrong is, I do not know. I'm not a coach nor am I paid to know. But DP is.

A CEO of one of my clients was fired for lack of performance. The company's lack of performance did not seem to be his fault and when we spoke, I was on his side. But in that conversation even he understood that he is ultimatey responsible for success or failure of the organization and literally told me if he were the board of directors, he would have taken the exact same action on the CEO.

completely agree with what you’re saying. The only solace I have in the guys you mentioned is that to me they represented the type of a10 player mason has needed to compete and a step up in the quality of recruits. But that’s all just my opinion and it’s not guaranteed they improve or go beyond what they have shown.

That’s why I say they may be the key to Dave sticking around, and his last hope to be honest. I wouldn’t bet money on that it happens either.

 

[Patriot Lawdog]

I usually get excited when a freshman or sophomore shows signs of being a great or even decent player once they get more expereince. But During DP's reign, a linear improvement has been anything but guranteed.

Mar regressed, Otis regressed in his senior year, Calixte has shown minimal improvement etc...

Kier an Grayer notably improved but due to injury/transfering did not work out. Not DP's fault (or is it?)

Normally I'd be able to deal with losing by at least being excited as how good XJ, Oduro, Miller etc. will be as they get more experience. However, there is nothing that makes me think this trend won't continue. Hell, who knows, AJ and Greene could regress in their senior years just as Otis did.

Every team that we have lost to in conference have had major injuries themselves except vcu. Injuries are a good excuse for a year, maybe even two. But when you are in year 5 and injuries are still your main excuse, you are simply doing something wrong. What that something wrong is, I do not know. I'm not a coach nor am I paid to know. But DP is.

A CEO of one of my clients was fired for lack of performance. The company's lack of performance did not seem to be his fault and when we spoke, I was on his side. But in that conversation even he understood that he is ultimatey responsible for success or failure of the organization and literally told me if he were the board of directors, he would have taken the exact same action on the CEO.

Totally agree on the excitement end of things. If we had consistently seen guys get better, this might be easier to take, but that has just not been the case. As I've said before, the Mar case is one I feel like I've never seen. A guy, who by the end of his freshmen year, was becoming borderline dominant, to a total non-factor/liability as a junior. By all accounts, a great kid and hard worker, how is this even possible?

 

[Pablo]

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Re: In Game – George Mason

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Post by DC69Wildcat » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:35 pm

i77cat wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:31 pm
"In the handshake line, JAG tried to shake hands with Javon Greene and talk to him. Kid wouldn't even look at JAG. Turned his shoulder and walked. Bless his heart."

I was at the game and couldn't see what happened between Green and JAG that resulted in the technical foul and Green's hard feelings. The call was that Green stepped out of bounds as he started his baseline drive. The ref blew the whistle and immediately pointed to the sideline in front of the GMU bench. Green continued his drive despite the whistle, however, and there was evidently some extra-curricular contact after the play had been blown dead. One of the posters on the GMU message board thought Green had been fouled and didn't deserve the T, but he evidently didn't realize that play had been stopped before the contact occurred. Did the TV replay show the "interplay" between JAG and Green?

Also, Bates was assessed a flagrant 1 and not a technical foul. Coach said in his post-game remarks that it was a legitimate call. I couldn't see what happened in that instance either, but another GMU message board poster called Bates a punk, so it must have been fairly blatant.


Re: In Game – George Mason

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Post by CatsUpNorth » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:46 pm

DC69Wildcat wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:35 pm
i77cat wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:31 pm

JAG appeared to grab the back of Greene’s head prior to the push. It was weird, hard to describe what actually went down, but also easy to understand why someone wouldn’t be pleased. Regardless it didn’t seem dirty in that it would hurt someone, just chippy, and it worked. The push definitely didn’t come out of nowhere, though.

Also Bates definitely went for Wilson on that play and earned that tech, he threw his body into him. He may have heard GMU folks call us soft. Seemed to inspire us, but definitely was not incidental