Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays

[GreenLantern]

The early church chose pagan holidays as a method to convert the locals to Christianity. Easter was the vernal equinox, Christmas for the solstice worshipers, etc

 

[phoenix-arizona]

I only know about Saint Stephen's Day because my uncle and his husband are big into Irish Catholic things.

St. Stephen’s Day - December 26

This day, following the celebrations of Christmas, is to celebrate the first Christian martyr St. Stephen, who was stoned to death shortly after the Crucifixion. However, the Irish celebrations on this day have little to do with the Saint himself.

Historically, this day was also about “Going on the Wren” or “Hunting the Wren” as ancient Celtic mythology remembers the days following Christmas as when the robin, representative of the new year, killed the wren, representative of the old year.

Happy Stephen's Day! Learn about Ireland's other holidays

Holidays and holy days in Ireland provide time to remember, time to celebrate, and time to relax from New Years Day to St. Stephen's Day.

www.irishcentral.com

 

[GMU79]

The early church chose pagan holidays as a method to convert the locals to Christianity. Easter was the vernal equinox, Christmas for the solstice worshipers, etc

True. The date of Christmas was chosen as a way to "baptize" the pagan holiday. Easter, though, is more fluid than just following the vernal equinox, as it always has to fall at the end of Passover. It is only a coincidence that it often coincides with the pagan celebration of the god Eostre, thus Easter.

 

[Jack Strop]

True. The date of Christmas was chosen as a way to "baptize" the pagan holiday. Easter, though, is more fluid than just following the vernal equinox, as it always has to fall at the end of Passover. It is only a coincidence that it often coincides with the pagan celebration of the god Eostre, thus Easter.

It's also why we have "Christmas Trees". The tradition was appropriated from Pagans decorating their homes with fir tree branches and Druids decorating trees in general, both in celebration of the winter solstice.

As for Easter, the ancient ones would sacrifice a hollow chocolate bunny and make Peep s'mores from the remains. YUMMM-EEEE! I dig that Pagan ritual. So glad Christians saved that one for me.

 

[Pikapppatri8]

It's also why we have "Christmas Trees". The tradition was appropriated from Pagans decorating their homes with fir tree branches and Druids decorating trees in general, both in celebration of the winter solstice.

As for Easter, the ancient ones would sacrifice a hollow chocolate bunny and make Peep s'mores from the remains. YUMMM-EEEE! I dig that Pagan ritual. So glad Christians saved that one for me.

It is all owned by Christ now - God repurposes things for a greater purpose.

Merry Christmas - now excuse me while I down a 2 drams of brandy underneath my tree while I sing silent night.

Happy Hannukah

Happy Fesitvus.

Not sure about Kwanza as it was "created" by socialists tied to the Symbonese Liberation Army during the 1970's.

 

[GMU79]

It's also why we have "Christmas Trees". The tradition was appropriated from Pagans decorating their homes with fir tree branches and Druids decorating trees in general, both in celebration of the winter solstice.

As for Easter, the ancient ones would sacrifice a hollow chocolate bunny and make Peep s'mores from the remains. YUMMM-EEEE! I dig that Pagan ritual. So glad Christians saved that one for me.

Your first paragraph is true. Your second one is sad.
This thread is going to be shut down very quickly now. Probably for the best.

 

[GMU79]

It is all owned by Christ now - God repurposes things for a greater purpose.

Merry Christmas - now excuse me while I down a 2 drams of brandy underneath my tree while I sing silent night.

Happy Hannukah

Happy Fesitvus.

Not sure about Kwanza as it was "created" by socialists tied to the Symbonese Liberation Army during the 1970's.

Your first sentence is absolutlely true.
I mainly agree with the rest of your post.

 

[phoenix-arizona]

 

[Pikapppatri8]

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WTF are turkey scones? Yacckkkk

Turkey soup and Turkey Curry can be done well.

 

[GMUgemini]

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A la A Christmas Story: no more Turkey sandwiches, Turkey soup, Turkey hash, Turkey a la king!

 

[He15man]

Late to this obviously, but hope everyone had a great holiday. We spent it with COVID in our house... so, yeah, pretty awesome.

 

[nynva]

this year the 28th would be latkes or sufganiyot because of chanukkah. Hope the He15man household is feeling all better. And thank you to those who remembered Hanukah.

GMU79 I don't believe Easter has to fall at the end of Passover. I think they are intertwined because the last supper is believed to be a Passover Seder and both holidays are based on a lunar cycle. One of they years I was in college they were a month apart but this year Passover starts on Good Friday again.

Hope everyone has a good new year and enjoys some Jayhawks.

 

[GMU79]

this year the 28th would be latkes or sufganiyot because of chanukkah. Hope the He15man household is feeling all better. And thank you to those who remembered Hanukah.

GMU79 I don't believe Easter has to fall at the end of Passover. I think they are intertwined because the last supper is believed to be a Passover Seder and both holidays are based on a lunar cycle. One of they years I was in college they were a month apart but this year Passover starts on Good Friday again.

Hope everyone has a good new year and enjoys some Jayhawks.

I hear you, and I'm not an expert in Judaism, but I do know that Easter always follows the Jewish calendar due to Jesus being in Jerusalem for the Passover when he was crucified. There is some confusion as to whether Jesus held the Last Supper at the beginning or end of Passover, so that may explain the Good Friday/Passover issue. Maybe.
Anyway, happy chanukkah! Judas Maccabeus brought the hammer, didn't he?

 

[nynva]

I hear you, and I'm not an expert in Judaism, but I do know that Easter always follows the Jewish calendar due to Jesus being in Jerusalem for the Passover when he was crucified. There is some confusion as to whether Jesus held the Last Supper at the beginning or end of Passover, so that may explain the Good Friday/Passover issue. Maybe.
Anyway, happy chanukkah! Judas Maccabeus brought the hammer, didn't he?

Passover begins the 14th day of Nisan, the month Spring begins. Jewish months start with a new moon. 14 days later is the full moon. The Nisan full moon is called the "Pascal Full Moon", and begins the Passover celebration. the Passover meal that most people gather for are on the first two nights.

 

[phoenix-arizona]

And then one eats brisket and latkes

 

[nynva]

And then one eats brisket and latkes

latkes are more traditional for Hanukah than Passover but depending on how you make them can be eaten on Passover. I'll take matzoh ball soup over either of these any day.

 

[gmutom]

I'll take matzoh ball soup over either of these any day.

 

[Pikapppatri8]

And then one eats brisket and latkes

I will fire up the smoker!

 

[phoenix-arizona]

Yes my wife and I (my wife is Jewish) only really eat matzoh ball soup at Passover time.

 

[phoenix-arizona]

A la A Christmas Story: no more Turkey sandwiches, Turkey soup, Turkey hash, Turkey a la king!