Goodbye Keyshawn Hall

[GMU79]

Simply, yes. The alternative being failing a commitment to your teammates, I’d rather risk suffering an injury to my body and wallet than to my pride. For one, this isn’t football (not that it would change my answer). Secondly, barring an extremely rare catastrophic injury, there’s no chance of any injury you pick up affecting you 6 months from now.

This.

 

[Jack Strop]

I don't get some of you guys. If you had a huge payday coming, would you risk injury? It's no different than prospective NFL players sitting out college bowl games — and those mean a helluva lot more than some bush-league tournament in Vegas nobody gives a shit about. I despise it, but I get it.

I hate that Hall quit on our team and don't really care for him personally, but I 100% understand why he is protecting himself. If schools really want to protect themselves from this happening, they should backload the last several payments and make the player forfeit the money if they refuse to play in all postseason games. Until then, smart players will always factor in the risk-reward of whether to suit up or not.

I have to disagree.here.

A player risks devastating injury each time the player plays and practices. In my estimation, as a player plays scores of games, participates in hundreds of practice sessions, performs thousands of conditioning exercises, sitting out one or two games is not going to enhance the odds of avoiding an injury.

Players spend astronomically more time in physical preparation than actual game time. When a career-ending injury does occur in the course of a game, yes it is more dramatic and seemingly tragic (because many people witnessed it during a game). But does playing increase the odds for injury when factoring in everything else a player does? I say very, very little.

 

[gmubrian]

If schools really want to protect themselves from this happening, they should backload the last several payments and make the player forfeit the money if they refuse to play in all postseason games. Until then, smart players will always factor in the risk-reward of whether to suit up or not.

Right, it's time schools start treating these hired guns as full-time contract employees and have it in their contracts that they must play in any post-season games should the school make any tournaments.

If the kid doesn't want to participate after the regular season then you make amends on money they can earn or plainly don't sign the player.

If it's not in their contract, or they don't have one, then don't fault the kid for opting out in hopes of investing in theirselves for their futures. Football kids do it all the time for bowl games.

Right now (pre-house settlement and revenue share), the few NCAA rules that still exist related to NIL prohibit you from tying an NIL contract to actual playing. You can't even require the player to be at a specific school. So, if you try to back load the payments too much, you could end up paying a player while they are at another school. The NCAA with trying to control it, has created some huge unforeseen and/or unintended (at least I hope) hugely negative consequences.

 

[gmutom]

Simply, yes. The alternative being failing a commitment to your teammates, I’d rather risk suffering an injury to my body and wallet than to my pride.

That's so easy to say when $2 million isn't on the table. As for Hall, it's not like anybody at UCF is in a position to bitch about him bailing on them, because he did the same thing to us in order to be healthy for them.

Again, I'm pissed like everyone that Hall sat out the A10 Tournament. I just get why he did it with life-changing money on the line.

 

[tblack33]

Simply, yes. The alternative being failing a commitment to your teammates, I’d rather risk suffering an injury to my body and wallet than to my pride. For one, this isn’t football (not that it would change my answer). Secondly, barring an extremely rare catastrophic injury, there’s no chance of any injury you pick up affecting you 6 months from now.

I personally disagree with any player sitting out of end of season or post season play, but this is just factually wrong. Ankle, knee, and Achilles injuries happen all the time and can fundamentally change a players explosiveness, even if they are healthy and cleared to play the next season. See Ronny Polite.

 

[FreeGunston12]

I personally disagree with any player sitting out of end of season or post season play, but this is just factually wrong. Ankle, knee, and Achilles injuries happen all the time and can fundamentally change a players explosiveness, even if they are healthy and cleared to play the next season. See Ronny Polite.

“All the time” is a bit hyperbolic. Roughly 1% chance that a player sustains an injury during each game. Roughly 0.5% chance that they would sustain a “time-loss” injury. The chance that time loss would impact the following season . . . very, very low.

Source

 

[GSII]

Hello, Hall almost had his ankle amputated at the Fairfax Urgent care. I think he knows what he's doing.

 

[jessej]

MSN

Hall supposedly gets $2.2M from Auburn

 

[GSII]

MSN

Hall supposedly gets $2.2M from Auburn

Dirty, Shady business this has become. I read somewhere Brock Purdy makes less than some College Qb's.

 

[Verdad]

Dirty, Shady business this has become. I read somewhere Brock Purdy makes less than some College Qb's.

Haha - that is definitely true, but not for much longer

 

[gmujim92]

MSN

Hall supposedly gets $2.2M from Auburn

Twice as much as Chad Baker-Mazara was getting, hence why he’s now in the portal

 

[psyclone]

MSN

Hall supposedly gets $2.2M from Auburn

Tony's pitch: Each of his two years as coach, an incoming transfer who played well for us and made an all-conference team (Haynes, Hall) is now a millionaire!

So who's the about-to-be future millionaire in this year's portal pickups that we currently have coming in? Nominations are open. (Guessing that not many of us would have nominated Hall 2 years ago)

 

[GSII]

Tony's pitch: Each of his two years as coach, an incoming transfer who played well for us and made an all-conference team (Haynes, Hall) is now a millionaire!

So who's the about-to-be future millionaire in this year's portal pickups that we currently have coming in? Nominations are open. (Guessing that not many of us would have nominated Hall 2 years ago)

Let's see how long these guys stay millionaires.

 

[FlPatriot]

Think we should develop a line of bball cards with player bio, stats and, most importantly, size of the bag o’ cash for each season played. I can even see betting lines never even imagined before, dollars/turnover and so on.

Fun Times!

 

[jessej]

Tony's pitch: Each of his two years as coach, an incoming transfer who played well for us and made an all-conference team (Haynes, Hall) is now a millionaire!

So who's the about-to-be future millionaire in this year's portal pickups that we currently have coming in? Nominations are open. (Guessing that not many of us would have nominated Hall 2 years ago)

I can't pay you $1M, but I can make you into a Millionaire!!

 

[Verdad]

I can't pay you $1M, but I can make you into a Millionaire!!

This is exactly the strategy Speedy Claxton has used at Hofstra to attract players, and then help them get P4 gigs after they kick a** for a year or 2: https://nypost.com/2024/03/09/sport...low-level-schools-navigating-transfer-system/

 

[Jack Strop]

Think we should develop a line of bball cards with player bio, stats and, most importantly, size of the bag o’ cash for each season played. I can even see betting lines never even imagined before, dollars/turnover and so on.

Fun Times!

Instead of the ol' "four-star recruit" it's
now the "$$$$ recruit"!