Goodbye Keyshawn Hall

[Masonman]

English who?

 

[gmujim92]

We're getting very excited about guys who averaged 5 PPG but I'm here for it!

Averaged almost 21 points per 40 minutes, which is really good particularly for a freshman

 

[gmujim92]

Starting 5:

Polite, Maddox, Billups, Hall, and Henry or Kelly

Love Hall playing the Jordan Miller role in a 4-guard offense … 6-8, 250 and can play inside-out, this was a HUUUUUUUUUGE get

 

[p8triotfan4life]

Love Hall playing the Jordan Miller role in a 4-guard offense … 6-8, 250 and can play inside-out, this was a HUUUUUUUUUGE get

We need one more shooter and a definite Austin Ball, and we will be a top 5 team in the A10.

 

[Falco]

Starting 5:

Polite, Maddox, Billups, Hall, and Henry or Kelly

Obviously best man up. But I sure hope Henry gets the start!

 

[Pikapppatri8]

 

[By George.]

I told you everyone would be thrilled! Whoooo! Great Great Day in Mason history.

Beating out Georgetown, Louisville and other P5s for a recruit is a rarity for Mason … but perhaps that’ll be ancient history as well.

Although I think Hall is a great pull, that list can’t be that real. I know vcu was way more involved than any of the other 3 teams listed.

 

[thebiasedannouncer]

Is Ball confirmed as still committed to Mason?

GMU Recruiting said on Thursdays Spaces that the team has been told that Ball will be here as a player and s sticking around.

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

GMU Recruiting said on Thursdays Spaces that the team has been told that Ball will be here as a player and s sticking around.

You know, I’ve been really tough on CKE since he left. I honestly should be thanking him for leaving and making room for Tony Skinn.

I’m starting a campaign to get a bronze CKE statue (similar the Mason statue on the quad) in front of the Athletic Department’s administrative headquarters. And the plaque would read:

“I Quit” - Two Words that launched George Mason into a national Basketball Powerhouse

 

[MasonFanatic]

You know, I’ve been really tough on CKE since he left. I honestly should be thanking him for leaving and making room for Tony Skinn.

I’m starting a campaign to get a bronze CKE statue (similar the Mason statue on the quad) in front of the Athletic Department’s administrative headquarters. And the plaque would read:

“I Quit” - Two Words that launched George Mason into a national Basketball Powerhouse

Let's win something first.

 

[Junkees9]

Weird to see Fernandez in that video of Hall.

 

[Earl the Squirrel]

Although I think Hall is a great pull, that list can’t be that real. I know vcu was way more involved than any of the other 3 teams listed.

I felt confident he was coming to Fairfax. He gets to start and play major minutes. The other teams on the list couldn't offer him that opportunity.

I'm sure the calculus for guys like Hall is this:

1) Transfer to school like Mason where I am guaranteed to play starter minutes. If I blow up and average 17 and 8 and shoot 38% from deep, maybe...
2) Hit the portal again and see if a P5 school is ready to give me 25-28 mins. If not...
3) Return to Mason, put up 20 and 10 and hit that portal again.

Just the way things are. Congrats to Tony and staff, nonetheless. Maybe we win 25 games next year, get into the tournament, and guys decide to stick around? Winning will do that.

Real nice pieces. Now roll out the carpet for Austin Ball and another shooter.

 

[Patriot8]

I felt confident he was coming to Fairfax. He gets to start and play major minutes. The other teams on the list couldn't offer him that opportunity.

I'm sure the calculus for guys like Hall is this:

1) Transfer to school like Mason where I am guaranteed to play starter minutes. If I blow up and average 17 and 8 and shoot 38% from deep, maybe...
2) Hit the portal again and see if a P5 school is ready to give me 25-28 mins. If not...
3) Return to Mason, put up 20 and 10 and hit that portal again.

Just the way things are. Congrats to Tony and staff, nonetheless. Maybe we win 25 games next year, get into the tournament, and guys decide to stick around? Winning will do that.

Real nice pieces. Now roll out the carpet for Austin Ball and another shooter.

Fwiw, in order for Hall to transfer again without sitting out, he will need to graduate.

 

[Mason32]

Fwiw, in order for Hall to transfer again without sitting out, he will need to graduate.

How am I seeing these other guys that have played at 2 or 3 other programs without sitting? Does the rule change only affect players from a certain point?

 

[Old Man]

How am I seeing these other guys that have played at 2 or 3 other programs without sitting? Does the rule change only affect players from a certain point?

I could be wrong, but I believe the NCAA issued a 'clarification' or a change to the rule a month or so ago.

IIRC, the NCAA stipulated that from here on out (probably to take full effect next off-season), players can get a 1 transfer without having to sit out, but after that, they have to sit out a year. Grad transfers can still play immediately though as the transfer restrictions only apply to undergraduates.

 

[gmujim92]

How am I seeing these other guys that have played at 2 or 3 other programs without sitting? Does the rule change only affect players from a certain point?

NCAA has given out waivers like candy in recent years. Remains to be seen if that continues … if not gonna be a bunch of dudes sitting out this season.

 

[Earl the Squirrel]

Fwiw, in order for Hall to transfer again without sitting out, he will need to graduate.

As others have pointed out the policy seems to be constructed out of Swiss cheese.

“An undergraduate transfer waiver will only be considered for student-athletes who transfer for reasons related to the student-athlete’s physical or mental health and well-being; due to exigent circumstances outside the student-athlete’s control (e.g., physical or sexual assault or discrimination based on a protected class); or assertions involving diagnosed education impacting disabilities.”

These seem like easy loopholes to walk through. Guys can just claim the school's not a great environment for their specific learning disability, or not supportive of their mental health, and voila!...waiver granted.

Reminds me of baseball's policy regarding PEDs. Adderall, which is prescribed for those with attention-deficit disorder, and heightens one's ability to concentrate, is a banned substance. Approximately 5% of the general population suffers from this condition, but something like ~15%+ of all professional baseball players have been granted waivers for Adderall.

Maybe the NCAA cracks down on waivers but I'm skeptical. It seems the players have a bit of wind at their back when it comes to freedom of movement, which puts the NCAA in a very difficult spot.

 

[mkaufman1]

Patriots Sign UNLV Transfer Keyshawn Hall - George Mason University Athletics

George Mason University men's basketball head coach Tony Skinn has announced that former UNLV standout Keyshawn Hall will compete for the Patriots beginning in 2023-24.

gomason.com

 

[DRK331]

Wins like Cornell will help with recruiting

I can see the coaching staff and Tony Skinn being like "Look at Keyshawn Hall. He played the entire game against Cornell, scored a career high 29 points, and we won the game. We can do the same thing with you. This is why you should go to George Mason"

Im sure the Cornell game would be used as an example to recruit the next big time scorer like a Darius Maddox or Keyshawn Hall type of player

 

[Pablo]

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