Game Thread: Toilet Bowl - Mason (1-4) vs UMass (1-4) Wednesday, Jan 22. 7PM

[PoorManProfit]

Match up between two shitty teams/programs.

Massachusetts 69
G Mas 71

 

[gmubrian]

I’m tired of all the excuses. If Paulsen didn’t suck, he would’ve prevented those guys from suffering season-ending injuries.

I understand your point, but, I also see what other people are saying as well. On the injuries something seems strange. Have we experienced more injuries than the average team? if, not why does it seem to affect us worse than other teams?
It really seems like we have had more than our fair share recently.

If we do experience more injuries than expected, why? Is he recruiting guys that have known issues and he doesn’t see it or ignores it? (Reuter comes to mind there) Is it because the guys are on the smaller side? Is he not letting guys heal long enough with minor injuries because we are pushing guys to over perform to make up for being less talented and they are becoming major injuries? Is he practicing in some way that leads to this? Is he just the unluckiest coach in D1?

Lots of questions.

 

[tblack33]

I understand your point, but, I also see what other people are saying as well. On the injuries something seems strange. Have we experienced more injuries than the average team? if, not why does it seem to affect us worse than other teams?
It really seems like we have had more than our fair share recently.

If we do experience more injuries than expected, why? Is he recruiting guys that have known issues and he doesn’t see it or ignores it? (Reuter comes to mind there) Is it because the guys are on the smaller side? Is he not letting guys heal long enough with minor injuries because we are pushing guys to over perform to make up for being less talented and they are becoming major injuries? Is he practicing in some way that leads to this? Is he just the unluckiest coach in D1?

Lots of questions.

It feels to me like the law of averages coming back around on us finally. Felt like we had a 3 year stretch from after Shevon left where we didn’t have any serious injuries. Might be more to it on strength/conditioning but our training team has historically been pretty solid.

 

[GMUgemini]

I understand your point, but, I also see what other people are saying as well. On the injuries something seems strange. Have we experienced more injuries than the average team? if, not why does it seem to affect us worse than other teams?
It really seems like we have had more than our fair share recently.

If we do experience more injuries than expected, why? Is he recruiting guys that have known issues and he doesn’t see it or ignores it? (Reuter comes to mind there) Is it because the guys are on the smaller side? Is he not letting guys heal long enough with minor injuries because we are pushing guys to over perform to make up for being less talented and they are becoming major injuries? Is he practicing in some way that leads to this? Is he just the unluckiest coach in D1?

Lots of questions.

Phil Martelli had a lot of injuries the last few seasons...it's probably why he was fired, to be honest.

Agree on the strength and conditioning coach, Handy is considered very good at what he does, and innovative.

 

[GSII]

Grayer also had a foot issue. Kier and mar did too. Maybe we need to talk to Adidas?? Dont remember this many foot issues when we were with Nike.

 

[masonjoe]

Agree on the strength and conditioning coach, Handy is considered very good at what he does, and innovative.

But he’s a vegan...

 

[patriot2000]

I understand your point, but, I also see what other people are saying as well. On the injuries something seems strange. Have we experienced more injuries than the average team? if, not why does it seem to affect us worse than other teams?
It really seems like we have had more than our fair share recently.

If we do experience more injuries than expected, why? Is he recruiting guys that have known issues and he doesn’t see it or ignores it? (Reuter comes to mind there) Is it because the guys are on the smaller side? Is he not letting guys heal long enough with minor injuries because we are pushing guys to over perform to make up for being less talented and they are becoming major injuries? Is he practicing in some way that leads to this? Is he just the unluckiest coach in D1?

Lots of questions.

I brought this up last year and was told I was wrong. I am concerned about our level of injury and how unable we are to rise above it. People who follow a lot more teams a lot closer than I do said I was wrong, and grasping for reasons to criticize DP (which is interesting because I was still firmly in the cautiously optimistic camp last season).

Maybe we do not suffer more injuries, or if we do, it is not DP's or his staff's fault. But poor roster management is the reason we can't survive these injuries and is a primary job of the head coach.

 

[mason89]

Grayer also had a foot issue. Kier and mar did too. Maybe we need to talk to Adidas?? Dont remember this many foot issues when we were with Nike.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[ephoops]

Grayer also had a foot issue. Kier and mar did too. Maybe we need to talk to Adidas?? Dont remember this many foot issues when we were with Nike.

I was thinking the same thing.

I was as well.

 

[gmujim92]

I’ve always been partial to Nike and never found a pair of Adidas that fit my feet comfortably, but I assume it’s not the shoes ... otherwise wouldn’t we be hearing similar issues with the other Adidas schools?

 

[mkaufman1]

I have big and wide feet so I never find a Nike or Adidas pair to fit my feet.

My feet are so wide that I was asked to join the circus. Half kidding.

 

[MasonSAE4]

I’ve always been partial to Nike and never found a pair of Adidas that fit my feet comfortably, but I assume it’s not the shoes ... otherwise wouldn’t we be hearing similar issues with the other Adidas schools?

Adidas makes trash products but not "fracture your foot" level trash. It's clear our med team is letting guys back at it too early. Anyone watching Kier knew he wasn't ready, and Boyd was practically playing in a cast last year.

 

[Pablo]

Adidas makes trash products but not "fracture your foot" level trash. It's clear our med team is letting guys back at it too early. Anyone watching Kier knew he wasn't ready, and Boyd was practically playing in a cast last year.

I won't speculate on whether anything was done improperly regarding Kier's injury. But, when Darren Tarver had a stress fracture in his left foot during the 2001-02 season, Mason shut him down for the season after playing in just 3 games - https://www.cleveland19.com/story/7...nds-local-basketball-products-playing-career/:

"Tarver, a transfer from Wabash Valley (Ill.) Community College, averaged 18 points in three games for the Patriots before a stress fracture in his left foot ended his season. He scored 29 points in the Patriots' season-opening victory over Niagara."

 

[Pablo]

https://umassathletics.com/news/202...he-road-to-battle-george-mason-wednesday.aspx:

"The series with George Mason
Wednesday is the 12th all-time meeting between the two teams with the Patriots holding an 8-3 record in the series. George Mason has won the last seven meetings, including both last season, with UMass' last win coming on Feb. 21, 2016.

Stiff competition
UMass has gone up against some of the nation's top teams, including eight currently ranked in the top-100 of the NCAA NET Rankings: Dayton (5), Rutgers (18), Saint Louis (54), Yale (58), Virginia (63), Akron (65), St. John's (77) and Harvard (93)."

 

[psyclone]

Kenpom has Mason as a 6 pt favorite.

 

[MasonSAE4]

I won't speculate on whether anything was done improperly regarding Kier's injury. But, when Darren Tarver had a stress fracture in his left foot during the 2001-02 season, Mason shut him down for the season after playing in just 3 games - https://www.cleveland19.com/story/7...nds-local-basketball-products-playing-career/:

"Tarver, a transfer from Wabash Valley (Ill.) Community College, averaged 18 points in three games for the Patriots before a stress fracture in his left foot ended his season. He scored 29 points in the Patriots' season-opening victory over Niagara."

That was 18 years ago...

 

[Walter]

Is UMass the only team in the A10 that we have a winning record?

 

[gmujim92]

Is UMass the only team in the A10 that we have a winning record?

We’ve done well against Richmond since we’ve been in the A-10 but the overall record isn’t great because they worked us in the CAA.

 

[Pablo]

Is UMass the only team in the A10 that we have a winning record?

Mason also has a winning record vs. La Salle.

 

[Pablo]

https://gomason.com/news/2020/1/21/mens-basketball-patriots-host-minutemen-wednesday-in-eba.aspx:

"A LOOK AT THE MINUTEMEN (7-11, 1-4 A-10; NET No. 175, KenPom No. 202)
UMass was picked to finish 11 out of 14 teams in the A-10 Preseason Poll. The Minutemen are 1-4 to begin conference play, highlighted by a 77-69 victory over La Salle. The Minutmen rank third in the A-10 in 3-point percentage (.354) and 36.3 percent of the team's points come from beyond the arc (58th nationally). Freshman center Tre Mitchell leads the Minutemen with 15.4 points per game and chips in 6.0 rebounds per contest, while junior Carl Pierre adds 13.9 points/game and shoots 39.8 percent from 3-point territory. Freshman Sean East II adds 11.3 points and a team-best 4.7 assists per contest.

UP NEXT
Mason hits the road for a nationally-televised contest at Davidson Saturday (Jan. 25). Tip-off on CBS Sports Network between the Patriots and Wildcats is scheduled for 6 p.m."