Apparently Martin's time at K-State overlapped with Kim playing at Missouri. They seemed very pleased to be speaking with each other both before and after the game. Not a side that Martin often exhibits, given his ferocious looks at his own players that he's demonstrated for a very long time.
Game 23: GMU (12-10 / 4-5) vs UMass (13-8 / 4-5) on Wednesday, February 1, at 7:00 PM.
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Yes... he is 0-2 against us. We beat K State when he was coach and had Michael Beasley playing under him.
Enjoy the win now... if we have to play them in the tourney they will be a whole different team with Fernandes and Cross back.
Just like we seem to be unable to have Oduro and Ojiako playing well at the same time for some reason. Now that Josh has returned to form, Ginika is struggling to score around the rim … it’s maddening.
Are we saying he can only do one or the other? Cmon! Atleast he is consistent at fouling 3pt shooters. He should get 22 min a game. Not 37.
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thebiasedannouncer
Sixth Man
Having sat right behind Frank Martin for ~32 minutes of last nights game, I can second everyone who was there and say that man is something else. Don't think I heard a positive word out of his mouth all night, and in the age of the portal I wonder if that ends up wearing thin on some guys and he won't be able to keep teams together. There's a lot of raw talent there though, if he can put it together this is gonna be a very good UMass team in a short period of time.
Some got a little too excited over this win.
Gus, nobody is looking to throw a parade in Fairfax after last night's win, but why be a fan if you are miserable when we do win?
You constantly give our opponents a pass when they are missing their best players, but you completely discount it when we've been down a primary starter for the last 8 games and two starters against vcu? Injuries are part of the game. You play the team that suits up against you, and you take the W if you play well enough to earn it. We did that last night. Nothing more, nothing less.
Pretty sure Yogi Berra said some folks aren’t happy unless they’re miserable.
Perfect picture of a hypocrite.
The thing I liked the most was the defensive performance from about the 8 minute mark on. That's how you win games. No trading baskets. We got stops and then scored on the other end.
Where's the party?
Sixth Man
No need to pile on but JF is really making me happy. Other things that made me happy were Malik riding his man into the 3rd row of the student section, then husting down for a dunk on O. And most folks probably missed it, but Blake friggin decked one of their bruisers away from the ball. It's the first time I've seen this team stop acting like sheep and start throwing elbows. Definitely the roughest game since Auburn. Getting beat because you are less talented is OK. Getting beat because you are less tough is disgraceful. I loved the win, but I really loved seeing our guys giving it out better than they got - especially at home.
Tom,
Been miserable and taking it since 2011. If you haven't, then you are lying to yourself.
Discount what wins exactly? We are 2-6 without Ticket. I did discount the UMass win a bit bc I didn't know till after those 3 were out. I couldn't watch so when I saw we won I thought it was vs their full squad. Aside from UMass, our other win was Rhody in your aforementioned 8 game span. I complained no more than you did on that game.
Look, I'm pissed, you are pissed we are all pissed that this team is underachieving this season. I'm stoked at JF's growth. But we have issues that if left unresolved this loser cycle will follow us thru 2031.
I think this is accurate and fair. There has certainly been a good amount of frustration. Let’s continue to harp on the losses, cherish the wins, and pray to the basketball gods that greener/golden pastures lie ahead.
IzzyWikis
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I'm terrified he's going to transfer to a bigger program before that...
PDGL Hoops
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This - that is exactly what I thought watching him on Wednesday night.
My fear as well.
Why would he do that? He had a chance to choose a bigger program out of IMG if that’s what he wanted
ephoops
Starter
I agree.
In addition, part of KE's job is keeping his stars from transferring out as well as bringing in talent.
Most recruits commit to a coach in addition to a school.
As long as CKE is at the helm and Justyn is bought in to what he is trying to do for him (Which it sounds like and looks like he is), it should be fine. I have no crystal ball, but to @gmujim92 point, this is a situation where he had plenty of options and if he wanted a "bigger name" program, he could have had it. This isn't someone who "came out of nowhere".
I get and respect the fear as much as the next person, but we have to get our mindset of "we can keep guys like Justyn" and "keep guys like English". I know its hard in this day in age and I am always as fearful as the next guy.
As long as CKE is at the helm and Justyn is bought in to what he is trying to do for him (Which it sounds like and looks like he is), it should be fine. I have no crystal ball, but to @gmujim92 point, this is a situation where he had plenty of options and if he wanted a "bigger name" program, he could have had it. This isn't someone who "came out of nowhere".
I get and respect the fear as much as the next person, but we have to get our mindset of "we can keep guys like Justyn" and "keep guys like English". I know its hard in this day in age and I am always as fearful as the next guy.
You have a good point. If KE can start winning and building, especially with his personality, salesmanship (not to mention his NBA pedigree) he may be able to keep guys around longer. And yes, that "committing to a coach" thing is real.
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