Game 16: Davidson College, Wednesday, January 9th, 7 PM, ESPN+

Leesburg Chankenstank III

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sleeperpick

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We had a shot to tie the game in the final 5 seconds against one of the top teams in the A-10.

Does it sting, losing so many of these close games that we won last season? Sure. Losing sucks. There is no such thing as a moral victory.

But you and some others treat every f*cking loss like it’s the end of the world. Must be a miserable existence. I feel sorry for you.
much like you say we treat losses like the end of the world, you can be said to overrate wins and have blind loyalism to a coach that has many faults. we all can't be perfect.. As resident historian can you name the amount of inbounds plays under an opponents hoop that has led to a direct layup or 3 pointer this season?!? Do you think maybe that is one of Paulsen's weaknesses?!?

If you can't admit he has called shitty inbounds plays for 4 years then you are just blind. We had a 6 foot 10 monster Shevon Thompson who scored something like 4 total points off of passes from under their basket... unacceptable. We have Ian and Otis who have shown capability of knocking down 3's off of screens and they have scored 0 points off of inbounds plays this year. We run the same damn play every time both sideline out of bounds and under the basket... Some of the time we can't get them in and others involve our center having the ball at the 3 point line with his back to the basket? Is this so damn hard to fix or too much to ask?!?
 

gmujim92

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much like you say we treat losses like the end of the world, you can be said to overrate wins and have blind loyalism to a coach that has many faults. we all can't be perfect.. As resident historian can you name the amount of inbounds plays under an opponents hoop that has led to a direct layup or 3 pointer this season?!? Do you think maybe that is one of Paulsen's weaknesses?!?

If you can't admit he has called shitty inbounds plays for 4 years then you are just blind. We had a 6 foot 10 monster Shevon Thompson who scored something like 4 total points off of passes from under their basket... unacceptable. We have Ian and Otis who have shown capability of knocking down 3's off of screens and they have scored 0 points off of inbounds plays this year. We run the same damn play every time both sideline out of bounds and under the basket... Some of the time we can't get them in and others involve our center having the ball at the 3 point line with his back to the basket? Is this so damn hard to fix or too much to ask?!?

In order for me to reasonably discuss this with you, you first are gonna have to learn something about basketball.

Watch several games this weekend and get back to me about how many inbounds plays are quick hitters that lead directly to baskets. I can tell you right now the percentage will be tiny.

Depending on the game situation, most coaches’ lone assessment of whether an inbounds play is successful is whether the players get the ball in without turning it over. That’s it. They’re not drawing up a high-risk play designed to produce a quick shot unless they absolutely have to. Because high-risk plays come with a far greater likelihood that you wind up throwing the ball to the other team.

People who continue to criticize DP’s late-game play design based on the outcome also ignore that the most tactically brilliant play in the world is only as good as the players tasked with executing it.

Was DP brilliant last season or did Otis and Ian simply make some great athletic plays to win multiple games at the buzzer? Conversely, did DP forget how to work a whiteboard because Javon freaked out and threw up a terrible shot with plenty of time left in the Davidson game?

I know it’s easy and convenient to blame the coach every time something doesn’t go exactly right, but it’s also dumb and frankly tiresome.
 

Leesburg Chankenstank III

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In order for me to reasonably discuss this with you, you first are gonna have to learn something about basketball.

Watch several games this weekend and get back to me about how many inbounds plays are quick hitters that lead directly to baskets. I can tell you right now the percentage will be tiny.

Depending on the game situation, most coaches’ lone assessment of whether an inbounds play is successful is whether the players get the ball in without turning it over. That’s it. They’re not drawing up a high-risk play designed to produce a quick shot unless they absolutely have to. Because high-risk plays come with a far greater likelihood that you wind up throwing the ball to the other team.

People who continue to criticize DP’s late-game play design based on the outcome also ignore that the most tactically brilliant play in the world is only as good as the players tasked with executing it.

Was DP brilliant last season or did Otis and Ian simply make some great athletic plays to win multiple games at the buzzer? Conversely, did DP forget how to work a whiteboard because Javon freaked out and threw up a terrible shot with plenty of time left in the Davidson game?

I know it’s easy and convenient to blame the coach every time something doesn’t go exactly right, but it’s also dumb and frankly tiresome.
much like you say we treat losses like the end of the world, you can be said to overrate wins and have blind loyalism to a coach that has many faults. we all can't be perfect.. As resident historian can you name the amount of inbounds plays under an opponents hoop that has led to a direct layup or 3 pointer this season?!? Do you think maybe that is one of Paulsen's weaknesses?!?

If you can't admit he has called shitty inbounds plays for 4 years then you are just blind. We had a 6 foot 10 monster Shevon Thompson who scored something like 4 total points off of passes from under their basket... unacceptable. We have Ian and Otis who have shown capability of knocking down 3's off of screens and they have scored 0 points off of inbounds plays this year. We run the same damn play every time both sideline out of bounds and under the basket... Some of the time we can't get them in and others involve our center having the ball at the 3 point line with his back to the basket? Is this so damn hard to fix or too much to ask?!?

Anyone remember the Beltway Shooter years ago who was terrorizing the DC area randomly shooting and killing people? I remember initially the authorities insinuating that the perpetrator(s) was in a white van (turned out actually to be a blue Chevrolet Caprice).

I remember everyone, including me being on the lookout for white vans. I started thinking “Wow, there A LOT of white vans on the road”. In actuality, the number of white vans had not magically increased. I was just noticing them more because I was looking for them.

Same with DP. If you go into a game thinking he sucks, every mistake will be magnified in your mind and every good move will tend to be downplayed. And Vice Versa.

INCLUDING MYSELF!

We all have biases. But as long as we understand we have biases, we can keep ourselves in check before formulating our opinions. Doesn’t mean the opinion will change, but at least we understand what prejudices may be influencing our conclusions.

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GMUSig03

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Anyone remember the Beltway Shooter years ago who was terrorizing the DC area randomly shooting and killing people? I remember initially the authorities insinuating that the perpetrator(s) was in a white van (turned out actually be a blue Chevrolet Caprice).

I remember everyone, including me being on the lookout for white vans. I started thinking “Wow, there A LOT of white vans on the road”. In actuality, the number of white vans had not magically increased. I was just noticing them more because I was looking for them.

Same with DP. If you go into a game thinking he sucks, every mistake will be magnified in your mind and every good move will tend to be downplayed. And Vice Versa.

INCLUDING MYSELF!

We all have biases. But as long as we understand we have biases, we can keep ourselves in check before formulating our opinions. Doesn’t mean the opinion will change, but at least we understand what prejudices may influencing our conclusions.

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Post of the year. But I'm biased because I love chank... so maybe not.
 

Mason2005

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We have probably 50 inbound plays a game and you complain b/c we lose 1 or 2 a game....... There are plenty of other things to complain about, like Calixte's FTs. Probably the worst FT shooter of all time.

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sleeperpick

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In order for me to reasonably discuss this with you, you first are gonna have to learn something about basketball.
YIKES JIM.. Not very nice considering you admittedly attend 2 games a year and are the first to congratulate DP on a win but conversely last to post about a loss other than to stick up for DP.. Sometimes I don't think you actually watch the games.. And as proven before the stats you give on certain topics are generally wrong or misleading and then you just don't comment back when called out

Watch several games this weekend and get back to me about how many inbounds plays are quick hitters that lead directly to baskets. I can tell you right now the percentage will be tiny.
Really bad take but I will take you up on that offer.. I will also count the amount of times an inbound play with 10 secs or less left in the shot ends up in the big mans hands at the top of the 3 point line with his back to the basket (GMU Specialty) and how that ends up going for said team

Depending on the game situation, most coaches’ lone assessment of whether an inbounds play is successful is whether the players get the ball in without turning it over. That’s it. They’re not drawing up a high-risk play designed to produce a quick shot unless they absolutely have to. Because high-risk plays come with a far greater likelihood that you wind up throwing the ball to the other team.
Agreed

People who continue to criticize DP’s late-game play design based on the outcome also ignore that the most tactically brilliant play in the world is only as good as the players tasked with executing it.
A wheel route to throw the ball in for a last second 3 pointer is stuff 11 year olds do... Very bad play call. Javon shouldn't have shot it... DP shouldn't have called the play either.. 0-2 on it this year

Was DP brilliant last season or did Otis and Ian simply make some great athletic plays to win multiple games at the buzzer? Conversely, did DP forget how to work a whiteboard because Javon freaked out and threw up a terrible shot with plenty of time left in the Davidson game?
Those were full court plays right Jim?!? I have never complained about his inbound plays going full court.. In fact I think they are pretty good. Half court and up are where DP gets lost

I know it’s easy and convenient to blame the coach every time something doesn’t go exactly right, but it’s also dumb and frankly tiresome.
It is really dumb that so many fans are in LA LA land one way or the other... You may be smarter than DJ3 and polar opposites in opinion but to me you are both unrealistic and frankly tiresome
 

Herndon

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Tangentially related side note: it wasn't a white van that the profile of the beltway sniper. It was a white Isuzu box truck.

I remember this because the profile was a lone white male in his late teens or early 20's driving a white Isuzu box truck from shopping center to shopping center in the DC area killing people.

I was a white male in my late teens to early 20's whose job was to drive a white isuzu box truck from shopping center to shopping center in the dc area and...drop bundles of the washington post for carriers to take and deliver.

I'm not a wimp. I have a winning amateur boxing record. I wrestled in high school. I've done some brazilian jiu jitsu and some muay thai. I can handle myself.

All this is to say that when the ATF points a gun at your forehead unexpectedly one evening at work, it doesn't matter how tough you think you are. You may, in fact, piss your pants.

That tough guy stuff goes out the window when there is a handgun aimed between your eyes.
 
I was honestly surprised the killer back then was not a disgruntled white male, the type that can be found on these boards in excess on any given day.

How is Chief Moose a hero again by the way?

Anyway, back to basketball. Good job Davidson. When will Paulsen devise a good inbounds play? Remember Gabe Norwood's slams? Those were the TITS.
 

Leesburg Chankenstank III

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All this is to say that when the ATF points a gun at your forehead unexpectedly one evening at work, it doesn't matter how tough you think you are. You may, in fact, piss your pants.

That tough guy stuff goes out the window when there is a handgun aimed between your eyes.
Did this really happen to you?
 

GMUgemini

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If they come up with a new inbound play I hope they call it “not good enough for mason hoops” in honor of our continuous bitching and moaning.

Speaking of, I do remember Grayer getting two corner threes in the same game right off an inbound play under the basket in a comeback. The third 3 was unsuccessful and we lost the game. I believe that was in year 2 under Paulsen but I could be wrong about the year.

Most of the time the team scores in an inbound because the opposing team falls asleep (Hancock’s infamous pass to himself) not because of a brilliant play call.
 

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Speaking of, I do remember Grayer getting two corner threes in the same game right off an inbound play under the basket in a comeback. The third 3 was unsuccessful and we lost the game. I believe that was in year 2 under Paulsen but I could be wrong about the year.

Most of the time the team scores in an inbound because the opposing team falls asleep (Hancock’s infamous pass to himself) not because of a brilliant play call.

I don’t remember the exact game either but I think it was a game against Towson, and Otis ran the baseline and passed to Grayer in the corner. Something like that.
 

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I did not piss my pants, no.

But I was scared as hell.

I lived by the Vienna Metro when this was happening, and it really was a really scary time. They said the shooters always hung out near parking garages with quick exits to the freeways, and I would run outside all time time near the Metro garage and 66 exit.

To avoid being an easy target, I would zig zag across the sidewalks and streets, thinking that somehow made me harder to take down if they were in their van nearby. I never got shot, so I ultimately concluded that I was just too damn fast and quick for them. :cool:
 

sleeperpick

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In order for me to reasonably discuss this with you, you first are gonna have to learn something about basketball.

Watch several games this weekend and get back to me about how many inbounds plays are quick hitters that lead directly to baskets. I can tell you right now the percentage will be tiny.

Depending on the game situation, most coaches’ lone assessment of whether an inbounds play is successful is whether the players get the ball in without turning it over. That’s it. They’re not drawing up a high-risk play designed to produce a quick shot unless they absolutely have to. Because high-risk plays come with a far greater likelihood that you wind up throwing the ball to the other team.

People who continue to criticize DP’s late-game play design based on the outcome also ignore that the most tactically brilliant play in the world is only as good as the players tasked with executing it.

Was DP brilliant last season or did Otis and Ian simply make some great athletic plays to win multiple games at the buzzer? Conversely, did DP forget how to work a whiteboard because Javon freaked out and threw up a terrible shot with plenty of time left in the Davidson game?

I know it’s easy and convenient to blame the coach every time something doesn’t go exactly right, but it’s also dumb and frankly tiresome.
you watch Duke FSU by any chance or Texas Texas Tech.. because your inbounds argument looks very silly. I will continue watching for you though.

I didn't see Deluarier or Bolden receive the ball at the 3 point line with back to basket one single time. FSU threw it in looking to score 50% of the time...
 
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