Game 10: GMU (6-3) vs Tulane (4-5) on Saturday, December 7, at 2:00 PM.

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Tulane is a member of the American Athletic Conference (AAC). They were picked to finish 11th in the 13 team league in preseason polls. No one on the roster received any preseason accolades.

The game is on ESPN+.

KenPom:
Gives us an 89% chance of winning.
GMU - 77
Tulane - 231
NET:
Mason - 82
Tulane - 276

We are 3-1 (.750) against Tulane all-time and have very recent history with them. We won in New Orleans 69-66 on 12/22/23. We also beat them 62-56 on 12/17/22 in Chicago. The other two matchups were in 2008 (L) and 2009 (W).

Tulane is currently 4-5 on the season. They are 4-2 at home, 0-1 on the road, and 0-2 at neutral sites.

Schedule: https://tulanegreenwave.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule

Wins: Louisiana Christian (76-42), University of Louisiana-Monroe (80-64), Alcorn St. (84-51), Bethune-Cookman (72-57)
Losses: Furman (75-67), University of New Orleans (93-87 OT), Wyoming (64-63), Belmont (89-66), Southeastern Louisiana (71-67)

Probable Starters:
6’4” Rowan Brumbaugh - 13.1 ppg - Sophomore
6’8” Kaleb Banks - 16.5 ppg & 8.3 reb - Junior
6’7” Greg Glenn III - 7.3 ppg - Junior
6’3” Asher Woods - 9.9 ppg - Junior
6’8” Kam Williams - 10.3 ppg & 4.9 reb - Freshman

Reserves averaging double figure minutes:
6’8” Tyler Ringgold - 4.3 ppg - Freshman - 4 starts
6’10” Spencer Elliot - 2.0 ppg - Freshman
6’5” Mari Jordan - 8.7 ppg - Freshman - has 7 starts

Roster: https://tulanegreenwave.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

Team Stats:

Tulane averages 73.6 points per game while giving up 67.3.

The Green Wave shoot 41.4% from the floor and 34.6% from 3.
Opponents are shooting 37.8% from the field and 31.0% from 3.

They shoot 74.7% from the free throw line.

The Green Wave have out rebounded opponents by 1.2 boards per game and average 11.7 turnovers per contest.

Stats: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/...nts/2024/11/27/Tulane_Updated_Stats_Nov27.pdf

Thoughts: They have good size with 5 guys over 6’7”. However, they are young as 4 of their 8 man rotation are freshman. Will we take care of the ball, make free throws, and limit offensive rebounds? If so, we win.

Discuss.
 

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Tulane is a member of the American Athletic Conference (AAC). They were picked to finish 11th in the 13 team league in preseason polls. No one on the roster received any preseason accolades.

The game is on ESPN+.

KenPom:
Gives us an 89% chance of winning.
GMU - 77
Tulane - 231
NET:
Mason - 82
Tulane - 276

We are 3-1 (.750) against Tulane all-time and have very recent history with them. We won in New Orleans 69-66 on 12/22/23. We also beat them 62-56 on 12/17/22 in Chicago. The other two matchups were in 2008 (L) and 2009 (W).

Tulane is currently 4-5 on the season. They are 4-2 at home, 0-1 on the road, and 0-2 at neutral sites.

Schedule: https://tulanegreenwave.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule

Wins: Louisiana Christian (76-42), University of Louisiana-Monroe (80-64), Alcorn St. (84-51), Bethune-Cookman (72-57)
Losses: Furman (75-67), University of New Orleans (93-87 OT), Wyoming (64-63), Belmont (89-66), Southeastern Louisiana (71-67)

Probable Starters:
6’4” Rowan Brumbaugh - 13.1 ppg - Sophomore
6’8” Kaleb Banks - 16.5 ppg & 8.3 reb - Junior
6’7” Greg Glenn III - 7.3 ppg - Junior
6’3” Asher Woods - 9.9 ppg - Junior
6’8” Kam Williams - 10.3 ppg & 4.9 reb - Freshman

Reserves averaging double figure minutes:
6’8” Tyler Ringgold - 4.3 ppg - Freshman - 4 starts
6’10” Spencer Elliot - 2.0 ppg - Freshman
6’5” Mari Jordan - 8.7 ppg - Freshman - has 7 starts

Roster: https://tulanegreenwave.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

Team Stats:

Tulane averages 73.6 points per game while giving up 67.3.

The Green Wave shoot 41.4% from the floor and 34.6% from 3.
Opponents are shooting 37.8% from the field and 31.0% from 3.

They shoot 74.7% from the free throw line.

The Green Wave have out rebounded opponents by 1.2 boards per game and average 11.7 turnovers per contest.

Stats: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/...nts/2024/11/27/Tulane_Updated_Stats_Nov27.pdf

Thoughts: They have good size with 5 guys over 6’7”. However, they are young as 4 of their 8 man rotation are freshman. Will we take care of the ball, make free throws, and limit offensive rebounds? If so, we win.

Discuss.
Mason is now Kenpom 79, NET 77 with the Ashville win.
 

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Tulane has played in 3 NCAA men's basketball tournaments: 1992, 1993, & 1995 - https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/tulane/men/

"Tulane Green Wave Men's Basketball School History​

Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
Coverage: 115 seasons (1905-06 to 2024-25)
Record (since 1905-06): 1293-1378 .484 W-L%
Conferences: AAC, CUSA, Metro, SEC, Southern and Ind
Conference Champion: 7 Times (Reg. Seas.), 0 Times (Tourn.)
NCAA Tournament: 3 Years (3-3), 0 Final Fours, 0 Championships
NCAA Champion:
Ranked in AP Poll:
1 Time (Preseason), 1 Time (Final), 36 Weeks (Total)"
 

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Tulane has played in 3 NCAA men's basketball tournaments: 1992, 1993, & 1995 - https://www.sports-reference.

com/cbb/schools/tulane/men/

"Tulane Green Wave Men's Basketball School History​

Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
Coverage: 115 seasons (1905-06 to 2024-25)
Record (since 1905-06): 1293-1378 .484 W-L%
Conferences: AAC, CUSA, Metro, SEC, Southern and Ind
Conference Champion: 7 Times (Reg. Seas.), 0 Times (Tourn.)
NCAA Tournament: 3 Years (3-3), 0 Final Fours, 0 Championships
NCAA Champion:
Ranked in AP Poll:
1 Time (Preseason), 1 Time (Final), 36 Weeks (Total)"

I always think of them as a baseball or football school. 30 years without a tournament appearance is rough.


Maybe Pointer Williams stands out because it's a cool name, but that name rings a bell. They must have had a solid core of guys between 92-95.
 

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Tony Skinn wants the fanbase to bring it on Saturday vs Tulane!

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LOL. Not laughing at you or your post. Laughing at how lame our "fanbase" is. We've cracked 3,000 just once this year in a 10,000 seat arena. Kids can go to Dayton and play in front of a 13,407 sell out EVERY night or come to Mason. Guess which one they're choosing? Give Tony credit for trying, but our fans suck. Look at how many members of this board don't even attend games.
 

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LOL. Not laughing at you or your post. Laughing at how lame our "fanbase" is. We've cracked 3,000 just once this year in a 10,000 seat arena. Kids can go to Dayton and play in front of a 13,407 sell out EVERY night or come to Mason. Guess which one they're choosing? Give Tony credit for trying, but our fans suck. Look at how many members of this board don't even attend games.
Dayton wins.
 

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LOL. Not laughing at you or your post. Laughing at how lame our "fanbase" is. We've cracked 3,000 just once this year in a 10,000 seat arena. Kids can go to Dayton and play in front of a 13,407 sell out EVERY night or come to Mason. Guess which one they're choosing? Give Tony credit for trying, but our fans suck. Look at how many members of this board don't even attend games.
I've been to 8 of our 9 games. Step it up, folks!
 

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Dayton wins.
I have to call a little bit of BS on this as well as the "poor home opponent" excuse I hear a lot. Let's look at the last 3 years compared to Dayton.

I have used non-conf SOS as a proxy for home schedule strength since for both of us that is the bulk of our non-conf schedule and it is an easy number to get from KenPom. Additionally, we don't have control over our conference schedule and they are relatively similar except for the delta in home and home pairings.

Dayton
22: 13-4, Non-conf SOS 215
23: 14-2, Non-Conf SOS 227, One of those losses was to Mason!
24: 15-0, Non-Conf SOS 36

Mason
22: 10-4, Non-conf SOS 194 One of those wins was against Dayton!
23: 14-2, Non-Conf SOS 222
24: 14-3 Non-conf SOS 280 One of those wins was against Dayton!

I'd say we have a slight edge over Dayton in home performance (wins and SOS) the first two years and then they took a nice leap in SOS and going undefeated at home last year. We even beat them in all 3 of our games against them in this three year period.

I'd say this leans less towards the "just win" or "poor home opponents" argument and more towards 81's fanbase argument.
 

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LOL. Not laughing at you or your post. Laughing at how lame our "fanbase" is. We've cracked 3,000 just once this year in a 10,000 seat arena. Kids can go to Dayton and play in front of a 13,407 sell out EVERY night or come to Mason. Guess which one they're choosing? Give Tony credit for trying, but our fans suck. Look at how many members of this board don't even attend games.
This season has been particularly pitiful. I think I literally saw an old woman knitting at our last game. Lots of key moments where you can just hear a pin drop. 0 energy in the stadium. I don’t see it getting better during conference play given our home slate. Fanbase seems to be dying off for some reason.
 

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I have to call a little bit of BS on this as well as the "poor home opponent" excuse I hear a lot. Let's look at the last 3 years compared to Dayton.

I have used non-conf SOS as a proxy for home schedule strength since for both of us that is the bulk of our non-conf schedule and it is an easy number to get from KenPom. Additionally, we don't have control over our conference schedule and they are relatively similar except for the delta in home and home pairings.

Dayton
22: 13-4, Non-conf SOS 215
23: 14-2, Non-Conf SOS 227, One of those losses was to Mason!
24: 15-0, Non-Conf SOS 36

Mason
22: 10-4, Non-conf SOS 194 One of those wins was against Dayton!
23: 14-2, Non-Conf SOS 222
24: 14-3 Non-conf SOS 280 One of those wins was against Dayton!

I'd say we have a slight edge over Dayton in home performance (wins and SOS) the first two years and then they took a nice leap in SOS and going undefeated at home last year. We even beat them in all 3 of our games against them in this three year period.

I'd say this leans less towards the "just win" or "poor home opponents" argument and more towards 81's fanbase argument.
I get your point, but it only goes so far. Dayton is consistently at the top of the A10. They are consistently in the post season. I believe my point stands. Dayton wins. And THAT is why it is such a big deal when we beat them (or vcu). We are beating winners.
 

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I get your point, but it only goes so far. Dayton is consistently at the top of the A10. They are consistently in the post season. I believe my point stands. Dayton wins. And THAT is why it is such a big deal when we beat them (or vcu). We are beating winners.

You can go back to when they weren’t and they still averaged over 11k fans per game.

One example between 1990-2000 they were not very good. In 1993 they went 4-26 and averaged over 11,000 fans per game.

Having a winning program helps so long as you remain a winning program. All those fans we had after 2006 abandoned pretty quick didn’t they?

They key to longer-term success is you have to turn it into a social event, and therefore make it a part of any students social life while they are there. If I was Marvin Lewis I would look real hard at how GCU did tbos because they took a university that had no campus to speak of and no history and within 10 years made a gameday atmosphere that is the envy of every non-P5 school in the country. And they did that in a major city with a lot of entertainment and sports options (to include a major university less than an hour away).
 
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You can go back to when they weren’t and they still averaged over 11k fans per game.

One example between 1990-2000 they were not very good. In 1993 they went 4-26 and averaged over 11,000 fans per game.
If you removed Georgetown, Maryland, the Bullets, and the Capitals from our general vicinity and we were the only, literally, game in town, we might have a few more fans at each game, too. But that's not our reality. Our option is to win, consistently, over several years, and people will come.
 
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