Dave Paulsen

masonjoe

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oh but the kid cant play....

He played last season because THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE TO PLAY. A coaching staff tends to find better players when they have an entire year to recruit instead of a few months where your just trying to patch together a roster.

No you're right we have Kevin Durant on the bench, what are earth is our coaching staff doing not utilizing this top talent!
 

Falco

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He played last season because THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE TO PLAY. A coaching staff tends to find better players when they have an entire year to recruit instead of a few months where your just trying to patch together a roster.

No you're right we have Kevin Durant on the bench, what are earth is our coaching staff doing not utilizing this top talent!

God forbid someone having fair criticism. We have a player on then bench who showed tremendous upside last year. And we have two bigs this year who are clearly not ready to play. I know Abram is listed as a guard and was out recruited at the guard position, but perhaps he could be used as a stretch 4.

Stretch 4s would be perfect for our system. He would "stretch" the opponet's defense. The ability to score a high percentage of catch-and shot three point shot, (exactly what Abram does), causes problems for the opposing team. It pulls either the center or forward out of the low post area, opening up driving lanes for guards to exploit, or passing lanes. This also creates more post space and rebounding opportunities for the Center.

Sorry I actually understand basketball, and I am not a blinded homer.
 
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sleeperpick

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God forbid someone having fair criticism. We have a player on then bench who showed tremendous upside last year. And we have two bigs this year who are clearly not ready to play. I know Abram is listed as a guard and was out recruited. But perhaps he could be used as a stretch 4.

Stretch 4s would be perfect for our system. He would "stretch" the opponet's defense. The ability to score a high percentage of catch-and shot three point shot, (exactly what Abram does), causes problems for the opposing team. It pulls either the center or forward out of the low post area, opening up driving lanes for guards to exploit, or passing lanes. This also creates more post space and rebounding opportunities for the Center.

Sorry I actually understand basketball, and I am not a blinded homer.
While this seems to be a bi-weekly argument between you and other posters I actually agree with you.
I do not know better than the coach and I won't pretend to, but after watching how horrible Relvao is and how frantic Temara can be, I do not see a reason why an athletic wing that can shoot 3's (we are last in A-10 in three's attempted and made) can at least attempt to play. All this talk about how he couldn't play against Cavanaugh and would get burned is hilarious. Cavanaugh burned us in man-to-man and zone, so why not try a bigger (height) dude with feet that aren't stone on him? Kam Murrell got burn and was horrible per usual but Deandre can't get a run?
Wilson and Mar better be college ready or we aren't going to win many games in the A-10.

Holloway for Zoomass is back next year, St Louis has a top 10 freshman center next year who is already college ball ready. If we cannot find some inside body when Jalen graduates we are SOL
 

Petey Buckets

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I think it's pretty clear that Dave's job is not dependent on winning games *this year*. He got an extension at the beginning of the year that said as much. The AD acknowledged this is a rebuild and rewarded him thusly. Maybe Abrams would be a boost in certain situations, we really couldn't have been any more hopeless on defense than when we went small against GW, but it's clear that he's not part of Dave's future plans. Not really worth arguing about whether he should or shouldn't be playing at this point.

Re: the bigs - Herndon's post was really insightful. They suck right up until they don't. In Paulsen's system, as in most college systems, you don't need your bigs to be scoring machines. You need them to be good post defenders, good help defenders, give you some paint protection, rebound hard, and hit a few bunnies here and there. Relvao and Temara both feel like they're a long way away but they both have the physical tools to be very effective. Temara in particular has shown flashes of fantastic post defense, and his errors seem to be mostly mental. I think the stretch of games he missed in the non-con set back his development and he'll really benefit from a full offseason after being in the system.
 

masonjoe

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God forbid someone having fair criticism. We have a player on then bench who showed tremendous upside last year. And we have two bigs this year who are clearly not ready to play. I know Abram is listed as a guard and was out recruited at the guard position, but perhaps he could be used as a stretch 4.

Stretch 4s would be perfect for our system. He would "stretch" the opponet's defense. The ability to score a high percentage of catch-and shot three point shot, (exactly what Abram does), causes problems for the opposing team. It pulls either the center or forward out of the low post area, opening up driving lanes for guards to exploit, or passing lanes. This also creates more post space and rebounding opportunities for the Center.

Sorry I actually understand basketball, and I am not a blinded homer.

I love how you know more about basketball because you look at someone's height on the roster and say HEY WHY NOT PLAY HIM SINCE WE PLAY SO MANY GUARDS ALL THE TIME. Get over the fact that scored 20 points against Wright St last year and Longwood. You don't think Paulsen is trying to win? If he was any good he'd be playing out there.

He's not an f-ing stretch four. He's lanky 6-7 skinny kid with a decent jumper and that's it.
 

Falco

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I love how you know more about basketball because you look at someone's height on the roster and say HEY WHY NOT PLAY HIM SINCE WE PLAY SO MANY GUARDS ALL THE TIME. Get over the fact that scored 20 points against Wright St last year and Longwood. You don't think Paulsen is trying to win? If he was any good he'd be playing out there.

He's not an f-ing stretch four. He's lanky 6-7 skinny kid with a decent jumper and that's it.

That's pretty much what a stretch four is. Paulsen seems to be like a great coach, but even a great coach can make mistakes.
 

sleeperpick

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I love how you know more about basketball because you look at someone's height on the roster and say HEY WHY NOT PLAY HIM SINCE WE PLAY SO MANY GUARDS ALL THE TIME. Get over the fact that scored 20 points against Wright St last year and Longwood. You don't think Paulsen is trying to win? If he was any good he'd be playing out there.

He's not an f-ing stretch four. He's lanky 6-7 skinny kid with a decent jumper and that's it.
MasonJoe,

Can you honestly say that Daniel Relvao who plays sparingly is that much better at guarding bigs than Deandre (in a small sample size last year)? Relvao is almost Danny Dixon bad. He can't make a layup and he is so slow that if the opposing team has a big that has any (and I mean any) footwork that he either fouls them or they score a layup. I am all about giving chances but Relvao sucks. I love your support for Paulsen, but what exactly has Relvao done in games that proves he deserves 10 mins over someone like Deandre or Danny Dixon. "Well Relvao is big" Yes, he is big but he is slower than 340lb Holloway from UMass. Ian Boyd does a better job against centers than Relvao and he is 5 inches shorter and weighs 50 lbs less. When Jalen is out we suck (75% of the time) why not try something different than put in Relvao who has to have the lowest plus/minus in Mason history.
 

gmu05

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MasonJoe,

Can you honestly say that Daniel Relvao who plays sparingly is that much better at guarding bigs than Deandre (in a small sample size last year)? Relvao is almost Danny Dixon bad. He can't make a layup and he is so slow that if the opposing team has a big that has any (and I mean any) footwork that he either fouls them or they score a layup. I am all about giving chances but Relvao sucks. I love your support for Paulsen, but what exactly has Relvao done in games that proves he deserves 10 mins over someone like Deandre or Danny Dixon. "Well Relvao is big" Yes, he is big but he is slower than 340lb Holloway from UMass. Ian Boyd does a better job against centers than Relvao and he is 5 inches shorter and weighs 50 lbs less. When Jalen is out we suck (75% of the time) why not try something different than put in Relvao who has to have the lowest plus/minus in Mason history.

Wow our fan base is so dumb...
 

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BO KNOWS1/25/2017 11:46:27 PM


"We shot the ball well from outside and that makes a huge difference. Loved the contributions from Steeves and Roland. First time all year I felt like Steeves showed us some of what he can do. Loved his Mutombo impersonation with consecutive blocks on 2 straight possessions. Roland continues to impress and I am glad he is now showing what he can do. The kid was a scorer in HS and a scorer on the AAU trail. He will evolve into a more consistent scorer as he gets stronger. I think finally others here are seeing his potential. Cavanaugh was good and put up very strong numbers given his minutes played.

What I liked as a team tonight was that every time Mason made a little run, we responded. That hasn't been happening much in the conference portion of the season.

We have an excellent shot to pick-up another win on Saturday and then over the next two weeks we find out what this team is really made of and that probably dictates how GW will approach the permanent coaching decision.

Finally, a word about Paulsen. He is not coming to GW and I doubt he would even be a candidate. He loves Mason. He is a good coach. His guys didn't play well tonight other than Livingston (how good would we be with him creating penetration at the point????). He will have Mason in the top eight of the league possibly this year but definitely by next."
 

Quentin Daniels

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MasonJoe,

Can you honestly say that Daniel Relvao who plays sparingly is that much better at guarding bigs than Deandre (in a small sample size last year)? Relvao is almost Danny Dixon bad. He can't make a layup and he is so slow that if the opposing team has a big that has any (and I mean any) footwork that he either fouls them or they score a layup. I am all about giving chances but Relvao sucks. I love your support for Paulsen, but what exactly has Relvao done in games that proves he deserves 10 mins over someone like Deandre or Danny Dixon. "Well Relvao is big" Yes, he is big but he is slower than 340lb Holloway from UMass. Ian Boyd does a better job against centers than Relvao and he is 5 inches shorter and weighs 50 lbs less. When Jalen is out we suck (75% of the time) why not try something different than put in Relvao who has to have the lowest plus/minus in Mason history.

Gotta love guys who can make definitive statements based on 119 minutes of a Freshman year - halfway through the season.

You remind me of P8 talking about Isaiah Tate. An all-around solid contributor and sixth man who could play 4 positions based on the opposing team's lineup his Senior year.
 

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MasonJoe,

Can you honestly say that Daniel Relvao who plays sparingly is that much better at guarding bigs than Deandre (in a small sample size last year)? Relvao is almost Danny Dixon bad. He can't make a layup and he is so slow that if the opposing team has a big that has any (and I mean any) footwork that he either fouls them or they score a layup. I am all about giving chances but Relvao sucks. I love your support for Paulsen, but what exactly has Relvao done in games that proves he deserves 10 mins over someone like Deandre or Danny Dixon. "Well Relvao is big" Yes, he is big but he is slower than 340lb Holloway from UMass. Ian Boyd does a better job against centers than Relvao and he is 5 inches shorter and weighs 50 lbs less. When Jalen is out we suck (75% of the time) why not try something different than put in Relvao who has to have the lowest plus/minus in Mason history.

Well, Abram started at the 4 for the first four games of the season and we went 1-3. After being absolutely humiliated by Houston, Paulsen made a change and we went 9-0.

Why anyone thinks Abram should be out there as a center, I have no idea. Like I said before, Boyd is a better post defender and if we're going to go 5 guard I'd rather have him out there (despite his height) in the post than Abram.

The kid can score, but the question you need to ask yourself is when he's on the floor does he make the team better on both sides of the ball or not? If your answer is: he can shoot the 3, that's not the right answer.

DJ3, a stretch 4 is not a tall, lanky guard.
 

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Abram wouldn't stretch the floor any more than the 5 guard lineup we had to play with against GW did..
 

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Abram wouldn't stretch the floor any more than the 5 guard lineup we had to play with against GW did..

careful now, you might be called a blind homer or troll by DJ3, who actually understands basketball and demands answers!!!!
 

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Did a little research. For his career DeAndre has played 734 minutes. He has 7 career assists, no that is not a typo. 1 assist for every 105 minutes played. Pretty sure that has something to do with his lack of minutes this year. 26 turnovers in those minutes as well so his TO/Assist ratio is pretty poor. 112 career rebounds hardly justifies moving him to the post.
 
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sleeperpick

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Did a little research. For his career DeAndre has played 734 minutes. He has 7 career assists, no that is not a typo. 1 assist for every 105 minutes played. Pretty sure that has something to do with his lack of minutes this year. 26 turnovers in those minutes as well so his TO/Assist ratio is pretty poor. 112 career rebounds hardly justifies moving him to the post. Not hating, just stating fact. Not "alternative facts", the real deal.
I love facts. Daniel Relvao has played 119 minutes and is 3-10 from the field along with a stellar 4-7 from the charity stripe to go along with 28 rebounds 2 assists and 25 personal fouls. Can't forget 6 TOs from a center who doesn't get post touches. I sure love big men that almost have more fouls than rebounds
 

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I love facts. Daniel Relvao has played 119 minutes and is 3-10 from the field along with a stellar 4-7 from the charity stripe to go along with 28 rebounds 2 assists and 25 personal fouls. Can't forget 6 TOs from a center who doesn't get post touches. I sure love big men that almost have more fouls than rebounds

Instead of trying to make a case against our third center, why not tell me why he should be playing minutes over Kier or Boyd? Because trying to convince me Abram will be effective in the low post is silly.
 
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