A-10 Previews

[gmujim92]

You are forgetting Tyrese Martin, a 2nd year scholarship guard. Rhode Island also will now have Georgetown transfer forward Antwan Walker who becomes eligible for their next game.

Was counting Martin as a SF not a guard, but no big deal either way.

 

[Falco]

I'd be surprised if the A-10 got more than 3 teams in, but it's possible to get 3 at-large bids if a 4th team sneaks in and takes the auto-bid (Duquesne and Mason, for instance, have zero at-large chances unless they finish 1st or 2nd, but maybe one of them takes the auto-bid).

The automatic qualifiers make the NIT a crapshoot every year.

A-10 NIT bids by year:

2019: 2 (Davidson, Dayton)
2018: 0
2017: 1 (Richmond)
2016: 3 (Bona, GW, Davidson)
2015: 2 (GW, Richmond)
2014: 0 (This is the year the A-10 had 6 NCAA tournament teams)

Hewitt never had a chance. Poor guy

 

[GMUYoda]

St. Josephs (2-9 before the game) defeated William and Mary (8-3 before the game) 84-69

Just shows that any given night in the A10 even the weak teams can surprise the good teams and get the win

 

[GMUgemini]

Hewitt never had a chance. Poor guy

Guy had enough talent to compete. He just sucked. The same team that split with UMass (and that loss at UMass was by 1 point) and took SLU to OT twice, also lost to Fordham twice, and to a whole bunch of sub .500 teams at home (like South Florida, which was 12-20 that year -- that after they blew a gigantic lead, partially after Okoloji gave up something like a 6 point play stomping on a USF player). That team built up so many huge leads that just blew apart like a house of cards in a n'orester.

 

[sleeperpick]

St. Josephs (2-9 before the game) defeated William and Mary (8-3 before the game) 84-69

Just shows that any given night in the A10 even the weak teams can surprise the good teams and get the win

Or that William and Mary isn’t very good at all which seems more likely. St joes did beat a hobbled UConn team to my knowledge which is actually impressive.

 

[GMUgemini]

Or that William and Mary isn’t very good at all which seems more likely. St joes did beat a hobbled UConn team to my knowledge which is actually impressive.

They went 16-43 from 3...

Probably a combination of some insane shooting by St. Joes and the fact that William and Mary isn't all that great.

 

[FreeGunston12]

From doing the math, beating TCU will only put us around 95-100 which means we have A LOT of work to do in A10 play. We will have opportunities though. Gotta beat vcu at least once and hopefully beat Richmond twice plus St Louis, Duqs and RHODY once. (being realistic that we won't sweep vcu or beat Dayton). 10 + wins in conference needs to be comprised of good wins. beating GW twice and St Joe's once does almost nothing for us... losing obviously hurts.. We have a relatively medium A10 schedule with playing good teams vcu and Richmond twice while also playing bad teams GW and UMASS twice. We need Bona to be good and beat them twice to really help give us that extra push

95-100 in what? Strength of schedule?

In NET, we're currently # 65. In RPI, it looks like we're currently # 32 (not that it matters).

Didn't Davidson get an at large last year with an SOS of #116?

Not to get ahead of ourselves:
Let's just close out the non-conference with two more wins, and we'll be in excellent shape.

 

[Patriotsince81]

We'll find out if we're any good on Jan. 5.

 

[sleeperpick]

95-100 in what? Strength of schedule?

In NET, we're currently # 65. In RPI, it looks like we're currently # 32 (not that it matters).

Didn't Davidson get an at large last year with an SOS of #116?

Not to get ahead of ourselves:
Let's just close out the non-conference with two more wins, and we'll be in excellent shape.

Ken Pom rating... and SOS we will finish around 285-290 non conference I think... I like efficiency metrics and ratings so I stick with those. RPI is dead and buried and NET and Ken Pom are imperfect but I stick with Ken Pom..

Duquesne is #20 in NET.. should tell you all you need to know about that

We need to finish non conference with 2 wins absolutely. lets do it.. but to say we will be in excellent shape raises a question from me. In excellent shape for what exactly?

 

[psyclone]

Or that William and Mary isn’t very good at all which seems more likely. St joes did beat a hobbled UConn team to my knowledge which is actually impressive.

Vegasinsider had W&M as 2.5 pt favorites in the game. UConn had lost 8 games in a row.

 

[sleeperpick]

Vegasinsider had W&M as 2.5 pt favorites in the game. UConn had lost 8 games in a row.

2.5 pt favs against a team with 2 win team proves the point I was trying to convey. W&M is not good. 190 Ken Pom

and I am unsure about your UCONN point. they are 7-3 and have beaten Florida and Miami and almost beat Xavier and Indiana... their two best players shot 10-40 against St Joe's. one of our conferences best wins so far

 

[FreeGunston12]

Ken Pom rating... and SOS we will finish around 285-290 non conference I think... I like efficiency metrics and ratings so I stick with those. RPI is dead and buried and NET and Ken Pom are imperfect but I stick with Ken Pom..

Duquesne is #20 in NET.. should tell you all you need to know about that

We need to finish non conference with 2 wins absolutely. lets do it.. but to say we will be in excellent shape raises a question from me. In excellent shape for what exactly?

Got ya. Forgot about KenPom for a minute there.

If we finish the ooc with just 1 loss, I would say that we would be in excellent shape to earn ourselves an auto bid in conference play.

Doing so would still be a tall task and require a top 4 finish at worst, but this is already the best position we've ever been in heading to A-10 play.

 

[sleeperpick]

Got ya. Forgot about KenPom for a minute there.

If we finish the ooc with just 1 loss, I would say that we would be in excellent shape to earn ourselves an auto bid in conference play.

Doing so would still be a tall task and require a top 4 finish at worst, but this is already the best position we've ever been in heading to A-10 play.

I’m not sure top 4 necessarily works. We need to beat the vcu's, Dayton’s and Richmonds of the world. In some cases twice. Task is very very tall but I’m hopeful and will continue to be even if vcu doesn’t go well on the 5th

 

[mkaufman1]

All of this talk is great, but its premature. Right now Mason needs to be 1-0 tomorrow against UMBC, and 1-0 against TCU.

Simple as that. One game at a time.

 

[sleeperpick]

All of this talk is great, but its premature. Right now Mason needs to be 1-0 tomorrow against UMBC, and 1-0 against TCU.

Simple as that. One game at a time.

I don’t think talk about A10 is super premature. Two games away and win or lose against TCU still means the same to us. Need to go top 3 in league with some big wins to even be considered

 

[GSII]

Really...Richmond's of the world? That's laughable. Might be better this year, but they are just like us. ALOT to prove still.

 

[sleeperpick]

Really...Richmond's of the world? That's laughable. Might be better this year, but they are just like us. ALOT to prove still.

Says every vcu and mason fan that doesn’t actually watch them play. They are pretty damn good...

 

[mkaufman1]

Says every vcu and mason fan that doesn’t actually watch them play. They are pretty damn good...

I watched richmond against Odu and I think they have some good players (Golden, Francis) but I still saw defensive lapses and poor shot selection amongst other things. They were lucky to get by Odu. Maybe it wasn’t their best game but I didn’t see them as that good of a team in my opinion.

 

[sleeperpick]

I watched richmond against Odu and I think they have some good players (Golden, Francis) but I still saw defensive lapses and poor shot selection amongst other things. They were lucky to get by Odu. Maybe it wasn’t their best game but I didn’t see them as that good of a team in my opinion.

well I urge you to watch another game. the ODU game was not good. similarly if someone only saw our Navy game I would pray that they would watch another

 

[gmujim92]

Says every vcu and mason fan that doesn’t actually watch them play. They are pretty damn good...

We match up with them better than any of the other good A-10 teams.

Hopefully DP has our guys drive the ball down their throats both times because Golden doesn’t scare me at all as a rim protector.