2016 Recruiting

[gmujim92]

Reminds me of the team Mason had in 09-10, it'll probably be one of the youngest in the nation

Can't imagine there will be one younger.

 

[GMUgemini]

Reminds me of the team Mason had in 09-10, it'll probably be one of the youngest in the nation

We had one senior (Birdsong) and two juniors (Tate and Long) on that team, right?

With 10 Freshman and Sophomores on the roster, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the youngest team in the country.

 

[gmujim92]

We had one senior (Birdsong) and two juniors (Tate and Long) on that team, right?

With 10 Freshman and Sophomores on the roster, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the youngest team in the country.

Assuming staff wants to fill all 13 scholarship slots, we will likely have 11 freshmen and sophomores next season.

Ah, the joy of having no junior class. Thanks Obama ... uh, I mean, Hewitt.

 

[mkaufman1]

Yeah that 09-10 team only had the one senior, and by that point birdsong lost a lot of his playing time. And I agree that it might be the youngest team in the nation, but hopefully they grow nicely together by the time the team is full of upperclassmen. I suspect they'll have a lot of the growing pains that team did.


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[liem.le.3388]

If Bruno does sign, has Mason ever had 4 non brother bigs?

 

[gmujim92]

Yeah that 09-10 team only had the one senior, and by that point birdsong lost a lot of his playing time. And I agree that it might be the youngest team in the nation, but hopefully they grow nicely together by the time the team is full of upperclassmen. I suspect they'll have a lot of the growing pains that team did.

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Having two huge classes back-to-back almost guarantees that there will be attrition; there won't be enough minutes for all those young guys, the cream will rise and others will move on.

But by the time members of the Livingston-Grayer class are seniors, I will eat my nastiest, sweat-stained baseball cap if we aren't in the mix for an NCAA bid.

 

[gmutom]

Assuming staff wants to fill all 13 scholarship slots, we will likely have 11 freshmen and sophomores next season.

Ah, the joy of having no junior class. Thanks Obama ... uh, I mean, Hewitt.

Jim, we'd actually have a decent junior class next season if Porter and Jackson had stayed. I'm absolutely fine if he wants to bring in his own guys, but he also has to own that he chose to start from scratch with 10 freshmen over his first two years. He could have very easily balanced the classes with transfers, JUCOs and grad school transfers, but that doesn't appear to be his MO based on his time at Bucknell.

I sure hope there's a method to his madness and we do get some of the attrition you mentioned above, because he's looking at having all juniors and seniors in two years and having to repeat the cycle all over again the following year.

 

[gmujim92]

Based on the fact that there are now 700-plus transfers nationally every season, I'm fairly confident that some guys will leave and find the level most appropriate for their skill level. Roster turnover is almost inevitable.

I also support DP's choice not to gamble on a quick fix with JUCOs and transfers.

Recognizing that the program was in shambles when he took over, DP has the luxury of time and the ability to build gradually by stacking solid recruiting classes one after another.

And there's really no sense in adding 2-year guys who will take playing time from younger players, but be gone by the time we are really gearing up for an NCAA run.

Let the young guys compete, grow together and learn from their mistakes, and the recruiting classes will balance organically.

 

[GMUgemini]

Jim, we'd actually have a decent junior class next season if Porter and Jackson had stayed. I'm absolutely fine if he wants to bring in his own guys, but he also has to own that he chose to start from scratch with 10 freshmen over his first two years. He could have very easily balanced the classes with transfers, JUCOs and grad school transfers, but that doesn't appear to be his MO based on his time at Bucknell.

I sure hope there's a method to his madness and we do get some of the attrition you mentioned above, because he's looking at having all juniors and seniors in two years and having to repeat the cycle all over again the following year.

Not counting Abram or Otis, we'll have 6 wing players next season (Moore, Grayer, Kier, Newman, Boyd, and Murrell). I doubt all five underclassmen last all four years here.

 

[gmutom]

Jim, I'm a big fan of recruiting young players and grooming them over four years, but there's a lot to be said for adding some experience as well. Lonegran at GW is great at recruiting freshmen, but he elevated their program by bringing in guys like Creek and Armwood. I agree with you and Gemini that the cream will rise and we will face some roster defections. As much as we all want to laud this year's class, I would bet your nastiest, sweat-stained baseball cap that at least two of them will be gone in two years.

I think we're all vested in Dave and want to believe he will turn things around. But I also think it's fair game to analyze his recruiting strategy and long-term plan.

 

[gmujim92]

Jim, I'm a big fan of recruiting young players and grooming them over four years, but there's a lot to be said for adding some experience as well. Lonegran at GW is great at recruiting freshmen, but he elevated their program by bringing in guys like Creek and Armwood. I agree with you and Gemini that the cream will rise and we will face some roster defections. As much as we all want to laud this year's class, I would bet your nastiest, sweat-stained baseball cap that at least two of them will be gone in two years.

I think we're all vested in Dave and want to believe he will turn things around. But I also think it's fair game to analyze his recruiting strategy and long-term plan.

His strategy is fairly obvious. Whether it works or not won't be known for another 3-4 years, so not sure what there is to analyze.

While I like Lonergan and recognize the impact he's gotten from Armwood, Creek and Cavanaugh, it's not like he has set the world on fire.

He's his fifth year at GW and has been to the tournament once, losing to a mediocre Memphis team in the Round of 64.

He has won 57 percent of his games at GW, with two losing seasons, no A10 regular-season or tournament titles.

If DP's ledger doesn't look similar by the end of Year 5, I will be surprised. The guy is a winner and there's no reason he can't win at Mason.

 

[JimP]

His strategy is fairly obvious. Whether it works or not won't be known for another 3-4 years, so not sure what there is to analyze.

While I like Lonergan and recognize the impact he's gotten from Armwood, Creek and Cavanaugh, it's not like he has set the world on fire.

He's his fifth year at GW and has been to the tournament once, losing to a mediocre Memphis team in the Round of 64.

He has won 57 percent of his games at GW, with two losing seasons, no A10 regular-season or tournament titles.

If DP's ledger doesn't look similar by the end of Year 5, I will be surprised. The guy is a winner and there's no reason he can't win at Mason.

I'd be very happy with Lonergan type numbers after 5 years - he seems to have GW in position to compete in the top half of the A-10 for quite some time.

 

[GSII]

Coach West is a legend down here. Good friend of the family too. My son goes to same school so I wil be running the halls with Mason gear and chants tomorrow. Bruno is a smart player with a 3pt shot thats consistent.

 

[Herndon]

Btw, has temara signed yet?

 

[Old Man]

I don't know what DP's propensity is for transfers, but now they don't make sense. Maybe in a few years, after some transfers, there may be a hole to fill. Then it may be time, but now, not so much.

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[gmujim92]

Btw, has temara signed yet?

Can't sign until the beginning of the late period this spring.

We will know more about his status then, one way or the other.

 

[liem.le.3388]

These incoming guards for 2016 can score!

 

[liem.le.3388]

This says Solomun is the best available senior in NC right now, anyone know when he's taking his visit?
https://future150.com/hs/basketball-news/bruno-solomun-one-of-ncs-best-available-prospects

 

[Patriot8]

It seems that Shane Temara (Troy's brother) is lighting it up in the JUCO ranks right now. He is an athletic 6'8/6'9 forward; much like his younger brother, whose averaging 15pts/9rebs at Angelina College . If Bruno doesn't pan out, would Paulsen take a look at Shane who would have two years and come in with collegiate experience?

 

[gmujim92]

It seems that Shane Temara (Troy's brother) is lighting it up in the JUCO ranks right now. He is an athletic 6'8/6'9 forward; much like his younger brother, whose averaging 15pts/9rebs at Angelina College . If Bruno doesn't pan out, would Paulsen take a look at Shane who would have two years and come in with collegiate experience?

That is an intriguing idea.