Vote Of Confidence - Paul Hewitt 12/12/2014

[masonjoe]

Marquise is actually a pretty damn good PG, and his skills are a perfect fit for an offense that relies on beating your man and getting to the basket.

Not sure why so many of our own fans act as if he doesn't exist.

A team that is near the bottom on assists per game out of 351 teams has a "pretty damn good PG"?

He's quick and gets to basket but that's about it.

 

[gmujim92]

A team that is near the bottom on assists per game out of 351 teams has a "pretty damn good PG"?

He's quick and gets to basket but that's about it.

Marquise's ability to get assists is limited, both by our NBA-style iso system and the fact that we have very few capable shooters.

The vast majority of our baskets are scored as a result of 1-on-1 play.

Unless the NCAA starts awarding assists on missed shots, I'm not sure what you want him to do.

But given the fact that you think our lousy assist stats are attributable to a lack of effective PG play, I'm fairly convinced you don't know jack sh!t about basketball.

We have a lot of problems, but Marquise is nowhere near the top of the list.

 

[masonjoe]

But given the fact that you think our lousy assist stats are attributable to a lack of effective PG play, I'm fairly convinced you don't know jack sh!t about basketball.

Thanks for lesson, was looking for a real argument on the matter that was backed up with rational, intelligent thoughts. Silly me, you have it all figured out already.

 

[gmutom]

Infighting aside, this does lend itself to an interesting discussion about what actually constitutes an assist (maybe Five Two can chime in here). If I pass the ball to gmujim on the wing and he dribbles five times before scoring, do I get an assist? How about 3 dribbles? One dribble? How much of an advantage does a scorer have to create by himself before the distributor of the ball no longer gets credit for passing it to him?

There is no question our "offensive strategy" (oxymoron?) lends itself to one-on-one play, but I've always considered assists to be the most subjective stat in basketball. It's one thing to give me an assist for a nifty give-and-go bucket, but why should I get credit for throwing the ball to Will Thomas in the post when he is the one doing all the work?

 

[gmujim92]

Thanks for lesson, was looking for a real argument on the matter that was backed up with rational, intelligent thoughts. Silly me, you have it all figured out already.

If you're not intelligent enough to understand the reality of the situation, sorry but that's a you problem.

I'm not saying Marquise is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

But pointing out assist stats as a measure of a PGs effectiveness, on a team that is among the worst-shooting squads in the entire NCAA, is silly.

Put him on the court with 2-3 guys who can consistently make shots and I guarantee his assist totals would go up dramatically.

 

[Raider_SPE]

Infighting aside, this does lend itself to an interesting discussion about what actually constitutes an assist (maybe Five Two can chime in here). If I pass the ball to gmujim on the wing and he dribbles five times before scoring, do I get an assist? How about 3 dribbles? One dribble? How much of an advantage does a scorer have to create by himself before the distributor of the ball no longer gets credit for passing it to him?

There is no question our "offensive strategy" (oxymoron?) lends itself to one-on-one play, but I've always considered assists to be the most subjective stat in basketball. It's one thing to give me an assist for a nifty five-and-go bucket, but why should I get credit for throwing the ball to Will Thomas in the post when he is the one doing all the work?

Fun read - http://deadspin.com/5345287/the-confessions-of-an-nba-scorekeeper

 

[MasonFanatic]

Put Marquise in an offense that prioritized ball movement instead of prioritizing isolation, and he'd get more assists, too.

I actually think we need him to be more aggressive. He should be able to get 5+ layups driving to the basket every game. He's done that several times recently. We need it every game. It's a relatively high-percentage play for this team.

 

[wijg]

Fun read - http://deadspin.com/5345287/the-confessions-of-an-nba-scorekeeper

Infighting aside, this does lend itself to an interesting discussion about what actually constitutes an assist (maybe Five Two can chime in here)...

I think we have figured out the issue. It is not that we are not getting assists, it is that the scorekeeper is not counting them correctly. More proof that Hewitt is still our man.

Renew Hewitt now!

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Yeah, I see Marquise's lack of assists as more of a Hewitt offense thing (and a lack of people who can finish) than on him.

He's still got a ways to go but like his promise.

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Renew Hewitt now!

I don't think anyone disagrees with this. Or the opposite, I forget.

But the point is, we all know what needs to be done.

 

[A.-Siegfried]

I can't believe Mr Jollay forgot about the 4th member of the Kenwan/Cam/Buck SF log jam.

Khyl Horton.

I have to go sign up for spring classes now. Field house is going to be real slow over break which sucks.

 

[Patriotsince81]

"An assist is attributed to a player who passes the ball to a teammate in a way that leads to a score by field goal, meaning that he was "assisting" in the basket. There is some judgment involved in deciding whether a passer should be credited with an assist. An assist can be scored for the passer even if the player who receives the pass makes a basket after dribbling the ball."

 

[Pablo]

I can't believe Mr Jollay forgot about the 4th member of the Kenwan/Cam/Buck SF log jam.

Khyl Horton.

Trivia Question: Khyl Horton transferred to this school where he completed his eligibility?

 

[wijg]

I am loving that "P8TRlOTFAN4LIFE" and most of the starters have voted for Hewitt.

 

[gmutom]

I am loving that "P8TRlOTFAN4LIFE" and most of the starters have voted for Hewitt.

Great catch. That would be funny if Shevon, Marquise and Jalen were really voting here to save their coach's job.

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Trivia Question: Khyl Horton transferred to this school where he completed his eligibility?

Cle state...

Can't believe I forgot the lefty!

 

[wijg]

So with the Copes turn of events, and the Royals injury (I feel like there is one other thing I am forgetting), does this give Hewitt the excuses to convince Edwards that he just needs another year to turn it around? I would think not, but stranger things have happened.

 

[gmutom]

So with the Copes turn of events, and the Royals injury (I feel like there is one other thing I am forgetting)...

Mayimba? I do hope Edwards judges him on the product on the floor and not what the product could be.

 

[wijg]

Mayimba? I do hope Edwards judges him on the product on the floor and not what the product could be.

Yeah, Mayimba was the third thing I was trying to remember. What concerns me is if there is even a slight improvement, or we lose a lot of close games in conference and he can convince Edwards with the "imagine how much better we would have been without the horrible roster luck" unlikely, but he seems to be very convincing.

 

[Pablo]

Cle state...

Can't believe I forgot the lefty!

Cleveland State is incorrect!