Idea for increasing student attendance: for every x games they attend, they can reduce their student fee that goes to athletics by y$ on their next semester's bill!
Pretty much paying them for going to games (instead of giving them free pizza)!
Student fee increase to help athletics?
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Pretty much paying them for going to games (instead of giving them free pizza)!
Let’s be honest—no one’s going to notice a student fee increase. Everyone already accepts that college is expensive, and for most students, an extra few hundred bucks or so just blends into the overall cost. If the money’s finally going toward something that actually builds campus energy—like athletics—it’s hard to argue with. Students complain about high costs, sure, but they also want a real college experience. This move actually gives them something back.
Just don't care about any blowback, it's what the NCAA has created and is where we are now and proceeding into the future... this is what is needed to stay competitive, much less survive each year. Gotta stay relevant in the market..... market says we are way under what we are charging each kid. I don't think $1K for student/athletic fees is unreasonable.
$14K for a year of college tuition is a steal, especially at a good school like Mason and in VA. I guarantee vast majority of my friends who have kids in colleges inside or outside of VA don't give a rats a** about how much a student fees are - they just look at the overall costs per year and how much it's going to cost them or how much financial aid they or their kid needs to ask for and loans to put in for if mommy and daddy aren't paying the bill.
For those on the boards who have kids in college right now... did you honestly look at the student fees at the college/university and object / state to your kid that these were too high and forbid them to go to that school? I think it would be hard to find a Yes here.
If a kid, or his parents, analyze the breakdown of their tuition and want to complain about the fees they can go somewhere else. Try Longwood..... enjoy those $3K athletic fees for crappy teams each year.
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Then let them transfer out. We have many more prospective students that would take their spot.
Bye
I'm not so sure it will be that easy a sell. A high % of students don't even come to games now. One can presume they don't see our basketball team as part of their "real college experience". Once they find out that student fees are increasing and part of the reason is to provide $$ for players, they are not particularly likely to be enthusiastic about it. Hey, even many of us long-term fans aren't crazy about the changes that are taking place in college athletics! And we have the choice of whether or not to contribute to the "system"--they don't!
Many of the players could be considered "rentals"--may be Mason students for a year or two but not graduate from Mason. How does the average undergrad relate to those types of students?
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There's something to this fyi.
The last time I inquired/tried to take the pulse of GMU Students on the GMU Reditt - much to the disapproval of the firing squad on here - a lot of the reditt gmu users said on campus clubs were more fun.
I am very surprised that students - especially those at non-athletic type of schools - have not sued Universities over the use of student fees to subsidize college athletic programs - especially now - IF those student fee payments can be linked to NIL/player payments.
If student fees can be linked to pay for University employees link librarians, tutoring services, groundskeepers, then the NCAA is about to lose another court case
In the short term - what’s stopping us from increasing the allocation of existing student fees to athletics (within the max allowed)?
Easy, low lift solution without pissing off the masses. This seems like something the Admin could be considering though, first time in a while (forever?) where I’m confident in our leadership to work through these things. There’s a level of coordination and strategy that’s long been lacking here.
Easy, low lift solution without pissing off the masses. This seems like something the Admin could be considering though, first time in a while (forever?) where I’m confident in our leadership to work through these things. There’s a level of coordination and strategy that’s long been lacking here.
The answer is there’s nothing stopping Mason except themselves. For some reason, while our Virginia peers (particularly vcu) have acknowledged the need to generate athletics revenue by raising fees, Mason’s administration has acted as if that’s somehow beneath us as an institution — and as a result, we operate at a significant, self-imposed $ disadvantage.
While admirable in one sense, it’s true that student fees are a drop in the bucket compared to the overall insane cost of higher ed in the U.S.
Judging by his comments to the BOV, Dr. Washington seems to understand what needs to happen for Mason to compete in this crazy new environment of college sports. Hopefully he can get it done because it’s the easiest possible way to create a large infusion of cash for the basketball programs.
I mean, there's literal legislation saying you can't go above a certain % in VA.
Virginia Bill Seeks Looser Limits on College Sports Tuition Subsidies
Public universities in the commonwealth currently face restrictions over how much of their athletic departments' revenue can come from student fees.
www.sportico.com
Isn’t the point being raised that Mason isn’t close to the max % allowed? I could be wrong though…I mean, there's literal legislation saying you can't go above a certain % in VA.
Virginia Bill Seeks Looser Limits on College Sports Tuition Subsidies
Public universities in the commonwealth currently face restrictions over how much of their athletic departments' revenue can come from student fees.
Sure yeah but can you easily just reallocate existing fees? I doubt the departments losing out on them would be happy. So you'd have to raise new fees.
Our fees are among the lowest in the state so raising them should be no issue.
I don't disagree, but I think you'd have to boil the frog. Jacking them up to take in the full amount we could spend would draw a ton of attention to the issue.
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People didn’t really respond to the observation I raised…. I asked GMU reditt a while back why more don’t go and they said on campus clubs are more fun/cater more to their interests. Do you think there’s more to this or is this just a small sample size?
r/GMU is nothing but a forum for CS-major virgins (unlike this particular forum where 15, hell maybe even 20% of posters have gotten to second base with a woman).
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I checked out r/gmu to see what these incels are up to. Apparently they think the clubs suck too lol
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/gmu/comments/1jtpg7d/clubs_here_suck/
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/gmu/comments/1jtpg7d/clubs_here_suck/
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Find a way to have the AD corporatize and sell shares to the public so that the teams’ successes can pay dividends to those who invest. Or the college can sell bonds and raise money for the program.
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That’s a good idea…kind of like the packers right?
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