Rick Pitino to Mason?

[mkaufman1]

Iona’s old coach was apparently making 1.1 million a year.

the article I saw said he made 550k base, but I guess with incentives he was over a mil.

 

[sleeperpick]

Davidson only had 6 healthy players? We had 7.

You also thinking Davidson finishes better than us had they lost JAG and we had a healthy Kier? I don’t think so.

We had 8 until the tournament. Kier isn’t as good as JAG regardless. Your argument has merit but it tired and silly

 

[sleeperpick]

Like I said, let’s have a healthy damn roster and see what happens.

Think about this, though, vcu lost to us before the injury big truly hit, only Marcus Evans was clearly injured. Jenkins played, Williams played, Vann played , Evans played but was limited. All it took to derail them was a not 100% Marcus Evans.

Vann was not physically unhealthy. He had many issues that had nothing to do with his body. Had those entire A10 play from what I know.

 

[tblack33]

So that's about 250K more than what Dave makes.

Will Mason ever have the courage to pay a basketball coach a million or more a year?

Lol I don’t see how it’s a courage thing but yeah I imagine it would help.

 

[GMUgemini]

Vann was not physically unhealthy. He had many issues that had nothing to do with his body. Had those entire A10 play from what I know.

I thought it was Jenkins who took the personal leave from the team? Vann had a calf injury?

 

[psyclone]

Why not stand for giving a deserving individual a shot to bounce back?

There isn't any question that he is a winning coach. And I wouldn't be surprised to see him get Iona to the NCAAs. But to me his character is highly questionable and he's not someone I would like to see representing a university whose reputation I care deeply about. For example:

Exhibit one:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...8-percent-cash-louisville-current-adidas-deal


From the wikipedia page on Pitino:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Pitino

Exhibit two:
On April 18, 2009, Pitino announced that he was a target of an extortion attempt.[64] On April 24, Karen Cunagin Sypher, the wife of Louisville equipment manager Tim Sypher, was arraigned and charged in US District Court with extortion and lying to federal agents.[65][66]

On August 11, Pitino admitted to having engaged in sexual relations with Cunagin on August 1, 2003 in Porcini, a Louisville restaurant. Several weeks later, Cunagin told Pitino that she was pregnant and wanted to have an abortion, but she did not have health insurance. Pitino paid her $3,000 for an abortion.[67] During the trial, Pitino downplayed the pair's sexual escapade. The complete act took, the coach testified, "No more than 15 seconds." In addition, Cunagin, who was convicted for extortion and lying to federal agents,[68] claimed that her estranged husband, Tim Sypher, was paid to marry her.[69]

At a press conference on August 12, Pitino made a statement, in which he apologized for his indiscretion and stated that he would remain as coach.[70] While Pitino's contract allowed for his firing for "acts of moral depravity or misconduct that damages the university's reputation," University of Louisville president James Ramsey announced on August 13 that Pitino would be retained in his position.[67] On August 26, Pitino demanded in a press conference that the media stop "reporting these lies." The conference was called even though University of Louisville officials advised that he was not obligated to respond.[69]

On August 6, 2010, a federal district court found Cunagin guilty of extortion and lying to federal agents, carrying a maximum penalty of 26 years in prison. She was eventually sentenced to 87 months in prison, and was released to a halfway house in January 2017.[71] After her conviction, Cunagin hired new attorneys and accused the judge, prosecutors, her former attorneys, and Pitino of taking part in a conspiracy to ensure she was found guilty, though she later expressed "exceptional remorse and contrition regarding her commission of her offenses."[71]


Exhibit three:
The University of Louisville self-imposed a postseason ban for the 2015–16 season amid an ongoing NCAA investigation over an escort sex scandal involving recruits between 2010 and 2014. The ban included both the ACC Tournament and the NCAA Tournament.[19][20] On June 15, 2017, the NCAA charged Pitino for failure to monitor his basketball program, which was involved in a sex-for-pay scandal. He was suspended for the first five games of the ACC season in 2017–18.[21] The NCAA announced they were considering forcing Louisville to vacate wins from the 2012–13 season, including its 2013 NCAA National Championship over Michigan—which would make Louisville the first national champion to be stripped of its title. The NCAA is also considering stripping Louisville of wins from several other seasons before and after 2012–13.[22][23] On February 20, 2018, the NCAA officially announced that the 2013 National Championship and their 2012 Final Four appearance had been vacated.[24]

It was the first time the NCAA had ever vacated a men's basketball national title.[25][26]

Scandal and ouster[edit]
Main article: 2017 NCAA Division I men's basketball corruption scandal
On September 26, 2017, federal prosecutors announced that the school was under investigation for an alleged "pay for play" involving recruits at Louisville.[27][28] The allegations state that an Adidas executive conspired to pay $100,000 to the family of a top-ranked national recruit to play at Louisville and to represent Adidas when he turned pro.[27][29] The criminal complaint does not name Louisville specifically but appears to involve the recruitment of Brian Bowen, who committed on June 3, 2017 to the school.[30][31]

A day later, Louisville placed Pitino on unpaid administrative leave, while athletic director Tom Jurich was placed on paid administrative leave.[32][33][34] According to a letter interim president Greg Postel sent to Pitino, the information spelled out by prosecutors amounted to a "material breach" of his contract.[35] Pitino's lawyer, Steve Pence, told The Courier-Journal that as he understood it, Pitino had been "effectively fired." Under the terms of Pitino's contract, Louisville was required to give him 10 days' notice and "an opportunity to be heard" before firing him for cause.[36] According to CBS Sports' Gary Parrish, school officials did not intend for Pitino to ever return to the sidelines again, and planned to cut ties with him as soon as they could legally do so.[37]

On October 2, the board of the University of Louisville Athletic Association voted to formally begin the process of firing Pitino for cause. On the same day, Pitino, through his lawyer, claimed that Louisville officials should have given him 10 days notice and a chance to respond before placing him on leave.[38] On October 16, the ULAA board voted unanimously to fire Pitino for cause.[39]

How many chances does this guy get?

 

[JDK]

There isn't any question that he is a winning coach. And I wouldn't be surprised to see him get Iona to the NCAAs. But to me his character is highly questionable and he's not someone I would like to see representing a university whose reputation I care deeply about. For example:

Exhibit one:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...8-percent-cash-louisville-current-adidas-deal


From the wikipedia page on Pitino:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Pitino

Exhibit two:
On April 18, 2009, Pitino announced that he was a target of an extortion attempt.[64] On April 24, Karen Cunagin Sypher, the wife of Louisville equipment manager Tim Sypher, was arraigned and charged in US District Court with extortion and lying to federal agents.[65][66]

On August 11, Pitino admitted to having engaged in sexual relations with Cunagin on August 1, 2003 in Porcini, a Louisville restaurant. Several weeks later, Cunagin told Pitino that she was pregnant and wanted to have an abortion, but she did not have health insurance. Pitino paid her $3,000 for an abortion.[67] During the trial, Pitino downplayed the pair's sexual escapade. The complete act took, the coach testified, "No more than 15 seconds." In addition, Cunagin, who was convicted for extortion and lying to federal agents,[68] claimed that her estranged husband, Tim Sypher, was paid to marry her.[69]

At a press conference on August 12, Pitino made a statement, in which he apologized for his indiscretion and stated that he would remain as coach.[70] While Pitino's contract allowed for his firing for "acts of moral depravity or misconduct that damages the university's reputation," University of Louisville president James Ramsey announced on August 13 that Pitino would be retained in his position.[67] On August 26, Pitino demanded in a press conference that the media stop "reporting these lies." The conference was called even though University of Louisville officials advised that he was not obligated to respond.[69]

On August 6, 2010, a federal district court found Cunagin guilty of extortion and lying to federal agents, carrying a maximum penalty of 26 years in prison. She was eventually sentenced to 87 months in prison, and was released to a halfway house in January 2017.[71] After her conviction, Cunagin hired new attorneys and accused the judge, prosecutors, her former attorneys, and Pitino of taking part in a conspiracy to ensure she was found guilty, though she later expressed "exceptional remorse and contrition regarding her commission of her offenses."[71]

Exhibit three:
The University of Louisville self-imposed a postseason ban for the 2015–16 season amid an ongoing NCAA investigation over an escort sex scandal involving recruits between 2010 and 2014. The ban included both the ACC Tournament and the NCAA Tournament.[19][20] On June 15, 2017, the NCAA charged Pitino for failure to monitor his basketball program, which was involved in a sex-for-pay scandal. He was suspended for the first five games of the ACC season in 2017–18.[21] The NCAA announced they were considering forcing Louisville to vacate wins from the 2012–13 season, including its 2013 NCAA National Championship over Michigan—which would make Louisville the first national champion to be stripped of its title. The NCAA is also considering stripping Louisville of wins from several other seasons before and after 2012–13.[22][23] On February 20, 2018, the NCAA officially announced that the 2013 National Championship and their 2012 Final Four appearance had been vacated.[24]

It was the first time the NCAA had ever vacated a men's basketball national title.[25][26]

Scandal and ouster[edit]
Main article: 2017 NCAA Division I men's basketball corruption scandal
On September 26, 2017, federal prosecutors announced that the school was under investigation for an alleged "pay for play" involving recruits at Louisville.[27][28] The allegations state that an Adidas executive conspired to pay $100,000 to the family of a top-ranked national recruit to play at Louisville and to represent Adidas when he turned pro.[27][29] The criminal complaint does not name Louisville specifically but appears to involve the recruitment of Brian Bowen, who committed on June 3, 2017 to the school.[30][31]

A day later, Louisville placed Pitino on unpaid administrative leave, while athletic director Tom Jurich was placed on paid administrative leave.[32][33][34] According to a letter interim president Greg Postel sent to Pitino, the information spelled out by prosecutors amounted to a "material breach" of his contract.[35] Pitino's lawyer, Steve Pence, told The Courier-Journal that as he understood it, Pitino had been "effectively fired." Under the terms of Pitino's contract, Louisville was required to give him 10 days' notice and "an opportunity to be heard" before firing him for cause.[36] According to CBS Sports' Gary Parrish, school officials did not intend for Pitino to ever return to the sidelines again, and planned to cut ties with him as soon as they could legally do so.[37]

On October 2, the board of the University of Louisville Athletic Association voted to formally begin the process of firing Pitino for cause. On the same day, Pitino, through his lawyer, claimed that Louisville officials should have given him 10 days notice and a chance to respond before placing him on leave.[38] On October 16, the ULAA board voted unanimously to fire Pitino for cause.[39]
How many chances does this guy get?

People don't care about things like that.

Mason making it to the Sweet 16 or beyond would spur donations like you wouldn't believe.

 

[gmujim92]

We had 8 until the tournament. Kier isn’t as good as JAG regardless. Your argument has merit but it tired and silly

It’s only “tired and silly” because you and others want to lay 100% of the blame on our coach.

 

[gmujim92]

People don't care about things like that.

Yes, a lot of people do.

 

[PoorManProfit]

Iona has a higher basketball pedigree than G Mas.

 

[tblack33]

Iona has a higher basketball pedigree than G Mas.

That’s gonna trigger some folks, but they have had a better decade than us.

 

[JDK]

Yes, a lot of people do.

Well you are a puritan I suppose.

 

[sleeperpick]

It’s only “tired and silly” because you and others want to lay 100% of the blame on our coach.

100% on paulsen absolutely not. Some blame on Edwards and a lot on our school that doesn’t give a shit about basketball. But paulsen is not a great coach and needs to buy a copy of his own book on how to run an offense.

 

[gmujim92]

Well you are a puritan I suppose.

So if you don’t want to be a fan of a rogue basketball program led by a morally bankrupt coach, you’re a Puritan?

Gotcha.

 

[FreeGunston12]

So if you don’t want to be a fan of a rogue basketball program led by a morally bankrupt coach, you’re a Puritan?

Gotcha.

Who does JDK think we are? Liberty football?

 

[Mason32]

Does JDK think the only reason Pitino isn't here because of money or not having the courage to give someone a second chance?

 

[JDK]

Does JDK think the only reason Pitino isn't here because of money or not having the courage to give someone a second chance?

another reason I believe is that we play it too conservative when it's better to strike while the iron is hot.

 

[gmujim92]

That’s gonna trigger some folks, but they have had a better decade than us.

Iona? Absolutely they have. Tim Cluess was one of the best mid-major coaches in the country. Pitino wouldn’t be going there if he didn’t think he could win right away and move back up ... it’s all part of the plan.

 

[mkaufman1]

Iona? Absolutely they have. Tim Cluess was one of the best mid-major coaches in the country. Pitino wouldn’t be going there if he didn’t think he could win right away and move back up ... it’s all part of the plan.

agreed, Pitino will go there, make the ncaas, and be back at a power 5 school within a year or two. Book it.

 

[GSII]

another reason I believe is that we play it too conservative when it's better to strike while the iron is hot.

It's not about being conservative, we just make bad hires 3 out of 4 times.