Interesting article on ODU in the Virginian Pilot.

[Bricker]

You don't think JMU isn't paying attention to the mess ODU has put themselves into?

Good point. I'm not sure what (it anything) they're paying attention to out there. It always seems like JMU is content just being JMU.

 

[GMUgemini]

You don't think JMU isn't paying attention to the mess ODU has put themselves into?

I've got to imagine they're paying attention to Liberty's move up without a conference affiliation.

UMass moving up seems to have been a financial disaster as well. Luckily, their basketball team didn't have to leave the A-10 for it.

 

[MasonSAE4]

They also landed a one-in-a-million stud QB in Heinicke and were throwing their shoulders out patting themselves on the back with how "easy" it was to revive a dead football program.

Are they still on track to build that new football stadium? Last I read it would seat something like 25,000 fans and open before 2020.

It's not even that high. It's only like 1,000 more than they currently have. Something like 21,000 (although most of the will be seats as opposed to bleacher benches.) Correct me if I'm wrong but it isn't a new field, just a massive renovation of the current one.

 

[Bricker]

It's not even that high. It's only like 1,000 more than they currently have. Something like 21,000 (although most of the will be seats as opposed to bleacher benches.) Correct me if I'm wrong but it isn't a new field, just a massive renovation of the current one.

No idea... it's been a while since I've read anything about it.

 

[Walter]

You don't think JMU isn't paying attention to the mess ODU has put themselves into?

JMU's fan base is delusional. They want to jump at any opportunity to become FBS, even if it means the Slum Belt. Their admin has had it right all along.

And just like with academic classification, JMU's admin would rather be a top 10 regional university instead of a top 150 national university. They could have easily added the necessary PhD programs to be reclassified if they wanted to.

 

[p8triotfan4life]

Imagine Heywood Jablomi.....making a comeback!

 

[GMUSig03]

I don't think there is anything wrong with having FBS/BCS aspirations and I give ODU credit for pursuing it and accomplishing what they have in so little time. Having no other regional rivals for football attention, my impression is they have created a pretty good game day atmosphere there that can only have a positive impact on the students and alumni.

Financial implications are another issue - but if a team wants to get to BCS, they pretty much have to do what ODU is doing. Start at FCS, build a solid program, jump up to FBS wherever they can get their foot in the door, take a ton of lumps by playing guaranteed games for $$$, reinvest into the program and go down what will inevitably be a very long road towards joining a BCS conference, maybe.

To me, the biggest argument against (again, aside from the costs) is the extremely limited opportunities to join a BCS conference.

 

[Herndon]

I have wanted GMU to pursue football, but I have to admit, my views have changed. We have a shitty fanbase. We don't show up for basketball games, we don't create a great home atmosphere. We don't give to the program in any meaningful way. There's no reason why football would be any different.

 

[GMUSig03]

I have wanted GMU to pursue football, but I have to admit, my views have changed. We have a shitty fanbase. We don't show up for basketball games, we don't create a great home atmosphere. We don't give to the program in any meaningful way. There's no reason why football would be any different.

Unfortunately I think I'm in the same boat, I think it's too big of a financial commitment/gamble for a low percentage on returns. It's just soooo damn expensive, so many scholarship for 1) the football team, and 2) the matching women's scholarships. Plus a stadium. I like what the AD has been doing with continually promoting other sports, like soccer, volleyball, etc., while building the basketball brand and facilities.

Maybe if we make the NCAA tournament in basketball 20 years in a row and get flush with cash, then we can reconsider. By that time, we will probably be talking about flag football though.

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

I have wanted GMU to pursue football, but I have to admit, my views have changed. We have a shitty fanbase. We don't show up for basketball games, we don't create a great home atmosphere. We don't give to the program in any meaningful way. There's no reason why football would be any different.

I was trying to formulate an aggressive response but as I tried to argue against each point, I found myself at a loss.

You’re still not getting a “like” though!

 

[GMUgemini]

I have wanted GMU to pursue football, but I have to admit, my views have changed. We have a shitty fanbase. We don't show up for basketball games, we don't create a great home atmosphere. We don't give to the program in any meaningful way. There's no reason why football would be any different.

That, and as stated above, the deck is stacked against anyone not in a BCS conference. And, yes, the deck is stacked against mid-majors in basketball, too, but not nearly in the same way as it is in football.

 

[Cedric Dempsey]

I don't think there is anything wrong with having FBS/BCS aspirations and I give ODU credit for pursuing it and accomplishing what they have in so little time. Having no other regional rivals for football attention, my impression is they have created a pretty good game day atmosphere there that can only have a positive impact on the students and alumni.

Financial implications are another issue - but if a team wants to get to BCS, they pretty much have to do what ODU is doing. Start at FCS, build a solid program, jump up to FBS wherever they can get their foot in the door, take a ton of lumps by playing guaranteed games for $$$, reinvest into the program and go down what will inevitably be a very long road towards joining a BCS conference, maybe.

To me, the biggest argument against (again, aside from the costs) is the extremely limited opportunities to join a BCS conference.

It's worked out so well for ODU their current freshman class tanked.
https://pilotonline.com/sports/coll...cle_b2f87312-8916-59f1-866b-3173901c0fc6.html

 

[Falco]

I have wanted GMU to pursue football, but I have to admit, my views have changed. We have a shitty fanbase. We don't show up for basketball games, we don't create a great home atmosphere. We don't give to the program in any meaningful way. There's no reason why football would be any different.

I'm right there with you, I couldn't understand why mason didn't have a football team But as much as it kills me, I get it now. Still Disappointing though.

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

I used to love the idea of football at Mason. But as Herndon pointed out we haven’t as a fan base earned it.

Also college football is a cartel. There is virtually no chance anyone out of the P5 that can even qualify for the playoffs. And year after year it’s becoming more so.

Not saying you couldn’t enjoy football anyway. I would love to be able to go to a Mason football game on a crisp autumn Saturday afternoon. But as we grow up we realize you can’t get everything you want.

At this point I have fallen in love with Mason basketball so much that a couple of Home football games each fall is not worth the millions of dollars it would cost and divert funds from the hoops team.

 

[Falco]

I used to love the idea of football at Mason. But as Herndon pointed out we haven’t as a fan base earned it.

Also college football is a cartel. There is virtually no chance anyone out of the P5 that can even qualify for the playoffs. And year after year it’s becoming more so.

Not saying you couldn’t enjoy football anyway. I would love to be able to go to a Mason football game on a crisp autumn Saturday afternoon. But as we grow up we realize you can’t get everything you want.

At this point I have fallen in love with Mason basketball so much that a couple of Home football games each fall is not worth the millions of dollars it would cost and divert funds from the hoops team.

I wish I tailgated for the club team. Bring the grills and the Green machine and it would of been a blast

 

[Quentin Daniels]

I wish I tailgated for the club team. Bring the grills and the Green machine and it would of been a blast

Oh yeah, a troll, a D-Bag and the greatest lawyer in America gathered around a sterno discussing why the volunteer coach should be fired and Saban brought in.

A Blast!!!

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Oh yeah, a troll, a D-Bag and the greatest lawyer in America gathered around a sterno discussing why the volunteer coach should be fired and Saban brought in.

A Blast!!!

Oh no you di-int!!!

Anyway, football will be banned soon as the pansies and their pansy allies in Congress work to "keep people safe" and pretend Aaron Hernandez wasn't a complete scumbag even as a kid before he started taking blows to the head.

For 5 million a year I will let you literally hit me over the head with a hammer three times per annum.

All this Wakanda bullshit lately. Has anyone been to Africa? It's like all Blood Diamonds and Boko Haram!

Has anybody noticed how fat millennials are getting? It's disgusting!

God I hate Coach L. But I still wish Blaine Taylor was my dad.

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Sorry, I had some random thoughts I had to get out.

 

[Five Two]

Has anybody noticed how fat millennials are getting? It's disgusting!

Yes, its disgusting. There is a millennial in my office who continues to get largr and larger. It started about 8 months ago and now she looks like she is carrying a basketball under her belt.

 

[CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY]

Yes, its disgusting. There is a millennial in my office who continues to get largr and larger. It started about 8 months ago and now she looks like she is carrying a basketball under her belt.

I would guess stealing lunches and/or having sex withe copier repair man.