Game 4: GMU (2-1) vs VMI (5-3) on Monday, December 21, at 1PM.

I did not witness it myself, but I've been told 2 of the members of the women's team did not come out for The National Anthem. They did come out for the song played after The National Anthem. I will be watching Monday night. I won't be at the men's game, but I'd appreciate any updates on if any members of the men's team do something similar. If I witness any women doing what I've been told they're doing then I'm done. I can't be a fan or provide any financial support for that team. They have every right to do what they want, but I also have the right to decide who I support.

I'd say go woke go broke, but they're way in the red anyway.

Meh, its cool with me, half of them are foreigners anyway and most of them aren't really DI basketball players to begin with.

By the way, you want to read something woke, read the Fall edition of the Mason spirit. GD that shit is the most woke overkill shit I've ever read. I should document it all here but I'm far too lazy.

Diversity I like, that shit? Gonna cost Mason $$$$$$$$...
 
I like the lyrics to that black National Anthem song, but why should I be forced to stand at attention to salute a race, BTW?

Good song, though.

I was at that game and did want to congratulate the Mason ladies for that 4th quarter run to make being down 47-14 after three quarters to an unranked team seem more palatable.
 

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I did not witness it myself, but I've been told 2 of the members of the women's team did not come out for The National Anthem. They did come out for the song played after The National Anthem. I will be watching Monday night. I won't be at the men's game, but I'd appreciate any updates on if any members of the men's team do something similar. If I witness any women doing what I've been told they're doing then I'm done. I can't be a fan or provide any financial support for that team. They have every right to do what they want, but I also have the right to decide who I support.
Bye
 

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I’m a military brat and will always proudly stand for the National Anthem, but I also support others who feel differently for whatever reasons. My father (retired Lt. Col.) pointed out that most people in the Gold Room keep drinking and socializing while it’s being played at home games, which could be perceived by some as being just as disrespectful as a few players remaining in the locker room.

The one thing I’ll never understand is why the National Anthem is even played before every high school, college and pro sporting event. Imagine if it was played before every movie, concert, Broadway show and any other non~sporting event. It just seems like a forced tradition, but I’ll continue to respectfully stand as long as it’s played.
 

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I’m a military brat and will always proudly stand for the National Anthem, but I also support others who feel differently for whatever reasons. My father (retired Lt. Col.) pointed out that most people in the Gold Room keep drinking and socializing while it’s being played at home games, which could be perceived by some as being just as disrespectful as a few players remaining in the locker room.

The one thing I’ll never understand is why the National Anthem is even played before every high school, college and pro sporting event. Imagine if it was played before every movie, concert, Broadway show and any other non~sporting event. It just seems like a forced tradition, but I’ll continue to respectfully stand as long as it’s played.
Love this! I always found myself walking to seats when the anthem was played. Stopped and put my hand on my heart but would definitely not be that guy to tell someone else they needed to. Completely arbitrary tradition that is not at all necessary at sporting events IMO. I will continue to stand but I could give a f**k if the person sitting next to me stands. Their choice
 

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Eh ... I've decided I'm not going to let someone else's wokeness destroy my love of the game. I think it's stupid because it does nothing, but if it makes you feel good, rock on.
 

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/history-national-anthem-sports_n_5afc9bcfe4b06a3fb50d5056:

"Historians typically point to one notable event when tracing the connection between the national anthem and sporting events: Game 1 of the 1918 World Series between the Boston Red Sox and Chicago Cubs.

It was the final year of World War I, a time when many professional baseball games featured marching drills, live bands and other patriotic elements. Given the strains of wartime, however, Game 1 was not well-attended, and the mood was reportedly somber.

During the seventh-inning stretch, however, the band lifted spectators’ spirits with a powerful performance of “The Star-Spangled Banner.” The New York Times recounted the moment:

As the crowd of 10,274 spectators — the smallest that has witnessed the diamond classic in many years — stood up to take their afternoon yawn, that has been the privilege and custom of baseball fans for many generations, the band broke forth to the strains of “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

The yawn was checked and heads were bared as the ball players turned quickly about and faced the music. Jackie Fred Thomas of the U.S. Navy was at attention, as he stood erect, with his eyes set on the flag fluttering at the top of the lofty pole in right field. First the song was taken up by a few, then others joined, and when the final notes came, a great volume of melody rolled across the field. It was at the very end that the onlookers exploded into thunderous applause and rent the air with a cheer that marked the highest point of the day’s enthusiasm.

The performance was so well-received that bands played the song during the subsequent games in the World Series that year. And from then on, “The Star-Spangled Banner” was a regular feature of special baseball occasions like opening day, national holidays and the World Series.
During World War II, playing the national anthem before regular baseball games became the norm, thanks to an upswing in patriotic sentiment and technological developments in sound systems that allowed for the playing of the song without the added expense of hiring a band.

The practice spread to other sports as well. After the war ended in 1945, NFL Commissioner Elmer Layden stated his intention to make “The Star-Spangled Banner” a permanent part of every football game.

'We must not drop it simply because the war is over. We should never forget what it stands for,' Layden declared."
 

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keys to the game for VMI:
1. Don't foul them a ton of you expect to win. Their top 5 players shoot 74%, 80%, 71%, 84% and 100% from the line... They don't shoot a ton of free throws but if they do they shoot them at a very high percentage.
2. Contest open 3 pointers... those same players shoot 50%, 51%, 67%, 31% and 37% from 3. That list contains their 3 starting guards.
3. VMI goes 11-12 deep so hopefully Mason worked on conditioning with their time off and can keep up with consistently fresh legs. No starter averages over 29.1 mins.
4. Oduro needs to contain big man Jake Stephens. He is certainly not one of the better bigs Oduro will face this year but he just came off a 26 pt 9 rebound effort. Oduro struggles to defend the post which worries me quite a bit.
5. Mason is 5x as talented as this team but they play hard for 40 mins a game. Have to keep high level of intensity up consistently against a weak opponent.

Mason by 8
 

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keys to the game for VMI:
1. Don't foul them a ton of you expect to win. Their top 5 players shoot 74%, 80%, 71%, 84% and 100% from the line... They don't shoot a ton of free throws but if they do they shoot them at a very high percentage.
2. Contest open 3 pointers... those same players shoot 50%, 51%, 67%, 31% and 37% from 3. That list contains their 3 starting guards.
3. VMI goes 11-12 deep so hopefully Mason worked on conditioning with their time off and can keep up with consistently fresh legs. No starter averages over 29.1 mins.
4. Oduro needs to contain big man Jake Stephens. He is certainly not one of the better bigs Oduro will face this year but he just came off a 26 pt 9 rebound effort. Oduro struggles to defend the post which worries me quite a bit.
5. Mason is 5x as talented as this team but they play hard for 40 mins a game. Have to keep high level of intensity up consistently against a weak opponent.

Mason by 8

Good preview. Mason has to get out on the VMI shooters and then crash the boards. Theoretically I recall Dave's teams are usually good defending the 3 (I think they have been stat wise but dont quote me) and rebounding, but they need that energy today. They can't get beat with energy like they did against Queens.

I remember VMI from 10 years ago and if they play the same style they'll need minutes from just about everyone. It'll be another good test for Oduro against a big who is talented. It won't be the same caliber of an A10 big, but hopefully he and Greg are up to the task of pushing this guy around and making him uncomfortable. Perhaps they can do some denying of the post and then get out on shooters on the defense side.

Hopefully no rust is going to show today either. I don't expect them to play so great against weak competition but hopefully they look better as the game goes on and they continue to improve into Towson and Norfolk State. Umass is right around the corner, and A10 wins are always a premium.
 

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According to GMUHoops, we are looking at a few suspensions.

It’s all falling apart. #Skinn4HC

If players are suspended they are probably the ones responsible for the month-long pause...

Multiple games would suck and maybe a little harsh unless it was some seriously egregious behavior.
 
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