Game 30: St. Louis (10-6) on Wednesday, March 4, at 7:00 PM.

gmujim92

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Again, he played 4 minutes in the game. How many times has someone else missed their first 4 shots in a game and then gone on to score double figures, probably a lot. But this guy isn't even given the opportunity. JDS has shot 21 times the entire season...that is not enough for a shooter like him. If we were 12-4 then this convo would be moot but we are not. I am not here to argue that JDS should be playing more than anyone else or that he should take minutes away from any other player but we are 4-12 and are 12th in scoring and 13th in 3pt's. Something is not working and for whatever reason the guy is not playing but someone who drops 50 points, averaged nearly 30 points a game in a pretty competitive high school league doesn't just stop scoring overnight.

Either the coach is so dumb he’s purposely not playing someone who can help us win or — more likely — he sees him every day in practice and knows a lot more than you about what he can and cannot do.
 

Masonfan3

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They’re still trying to win. The last 2 games clearly show nobody has punted on the season yet.

Not saying they aren't trying to win. I know they (players and coaches) are trying to win but what they are doing is not working. Not saying they aren't giving 100% effort but its obvious something needs to change. Whether its personnel or game plan, a change needs to occur.
 

Masonfan3

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Either the coach is so dumb he’s purposely not playing someone who can help us win or — more likely — he sees him every day in practice and knows a lot more than you about what he can and cannot do.

Never said anything about DP. In my original post on the subject, I said I don't know what happens in practice. The fact is that JDS only gets 4 minutes a game therefore is not given the opportunity (in games) to showcase his skills. The other fact is that we are in 12th place and have struggled in the very area that JDS excelled at in high school.
 

gmujim92

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Never said anything about DP. In my original post on the subject, I said I don't know what happens in practice. The fact is that JDS only gets 4 minutes a game therefore is not given the opportunity (in games) to showcase his skills. The other fact is that we are in 12th place and have struggled in the very area that JDS excelled at in high school.

He is not “given the opportunity” because we have better guards on this team who give us a better chance of winning.

Quite frankly, by the tail end of a player’s second year in college nobody cares what he did or didn’t do in high school. Except you, apparently.
 

sleeperpick

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Either the coach is so dumb he’s purposely not playing someone who can help us win or — more likely — he sees him every day in practice and knows a lot more than you about what he can and cannot do.
The coach was so dumb that he played Reuter over Calixte and AJ for an entire season (stopped way too late). Coach was also so dumb for not letting AJ get proper minutes even if he was a little out of control. Coach was so dumb for red shirting Jordan Miller until Rhode Island game last year. Coach was also so dumb for sticking with mar and rushing him back from injury last year. Dude turned into a dud and he wasn’t on that downward trajectory until last season.
 

sleeperpick

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He is not “given the opportunity” because we have better guards on this team who give us a better chance of winning.

Quite frankly, by the tail end of a player’s second year in college nobody cares what he did or didn’t do in high school. Except you, apparently.
Not you Jimmy but 75% of our fans were ready to give up on AJ after last year. Look what he has turned into.
 

gmujim92

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Not you Jimmy but 75% of our fans were ready to give up on AJ after last year. Look what he has turned into.

AJ showed flashes of tantalizing athletic ability even with sparse playing time. Big difference from JDS, who so far hasn’t shown anything. And with the guards coming in, I’d say there’s a 0% chance of it ever happening in a Mason uniform.
 

sleeperpick

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AJ showed flashes of tantalizing athletic ability even with sparse playing time. Big difference from JDS, who so far hasn’t shown anything. And with the guards coming in, I’d say there’s a 0% chance of it ever happening in a Mason uniform.
I don’t disagree with you on this point but to think paulsens decision making is infallible is quite naive and silly
 

Masonfan3

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He is not “given the opportunity” because we have better guards on this team who give us a better chance of winning.

Quite frankly, by the tail end of a player’s second year in college nobody cares what he did or didn’t do in high school. Except you, apparently.

What I care about is this team winning, which they aren't doing. But yea, let's go ahead and continue with what we are doing that has seen us lose 13 of our last 17 games.
 

Masonfan3

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AJ showed flashes of tantalizing athletic ability even with sparse playing time. Big difference from JDS, who so far hasn’t shown anything. And with the guards coming in, I’d say there’s a 0% chance of it ever happening in a Mason uniform.

AJ has never averaged less than 10 minutes a game in his 3 seasons of playing. JDS is playing 4 minutes a game. That is a huge difference. What I said by "not given the opportunity" was that he is not given the opportunity to shoot his way out of a slump as he averages about a shot a game.
 

GMUgemini

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What I care about is this team winning, which they aren't doing. But yea, let's go ahead and continue with what we are doing that has seen us lose 13 of our last 17 games.

Do your contention is if we give JDS 15 minutes against SLU and Fordham that he will go from a 16% shooter to a 40% shooter and well start winning games?
 

GMUgemini

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AJ has never averaged less than 10 minutes a game in his 3 seasons of playing. JDS is playing 4 minutes a game. That is a huge difference. What I said by "not given the opportunity" was that he is not given the opportunity to shoot his way out of a slump as he averages about a shot a game.

12 minutes against LIU 0-2
7 minutes against UMBC 0-2
6 minutes against Richmond 0-3
6 minutes against UMass 0-0

I’m not really sure giving him 5 or 10 minutes more is going to change much.
 

gmujim92

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AJ has never averaged less than 10 minutes a game in his 3 seasons of playing. JDS is playing 4 minutes a game. That is a huge difference. What I said by "not given the opportunity" was that he is not given the opportunity to shoot his way out of a slump as he averages about a shot a game.

And what I’m telling you is when a guy whose calling card is scoring struggles to hit shots in PRACTICE (emphasis intended Iverson-style), that guy isn’t going to play.

The staff charts made and missed shots in practice and Jason is still not shooting the ball with any kind of consistency. Unlike AJ, he doesn’t bring enough to the table in other areas to make up for the lack of offense.
 

Masonfan3

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Do your contention is if we give JDS 15 minutes against SLU and Fordham that he will go from a 16% shooter to a 40% shooter and well start winning games?

Will we win, I have no clue. But, yes I believe that with more time JDS would improve his shooting percentage. Having spent time around high level basketball people, the hardest thing for a shooter is to come in off the bench and make your first couple shots. The point I am trying to make about JDS is how can we really write him off when he isn't given much PT and has taken a total of 21 shots the entire season? Whats the worst thing that can happen by giving him 5 more minutes a game? But, maybe he gets some confidence back and we now have a more reliable player who can help us when/if we need it.
 

G M U

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And what I’m telling you is when a guy whose calling card is scoring struggles to hit shots in PRACTICE (emphasis intended Iverson-style), that guy isn’t going to play.

The staff charts made and missed shots in practice and Jason is still not shooting the ball with any kind of consistency. Unlike AJ, he doesn’t bring enough to the table in other areas to make up for the lack of offense.


JDS is still an indictment on Paulsen, whether it's the fact that he recruited a kid that can't shoot or he never developed the kid after 2 years. I get what Masonfan3 is saying, conventional wisdom got us to 12th place, why not flip the script even if it doesn't make sense and lets just see what happens. Nothing really matters anymore anyways, we're playing for either a 1pm or 3pm tip time on Wednesday in Brooklyn.
 

sleeperpick

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Infallible? Seriously? I have never suggested that for one second.
Fair enough. You do tend to be sarcastic or a bit sassy to anyone that questions his decision making even a little bit. I have not seen enough good decisions by paulsen to think maybe JDS isn’t 100% responsible for looking like a complete deer in headlights
 

gmujim92

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JDS is still an indictment on Paulsen, whether it's the fact that he recruited a kid that can't shoot or he never developed the kid after 2 years. I get what Masonfan3 is saying, conventional wisdom got us to 12th place, why not flip the script even if it doesn't make sense and lets just see what happens. Nothing really matters anymore anyways, we're playing for either a 1pm or 3pm tip time on Wednesday in Brooklyn.

These games have clearly mattered to our team, thankfully, if not our “fans.”
 

GMUgemini

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JDS is still an indictment on Paulsen, whether it's the fact that he recruited a kid that can't shoot or he never developed the kid after 2 years. I get what Masonfan3 is saying, conventional wisdom got us to 12th place, why not flip the script even if it doesn't make sense and lets just see what happens. Nothing really matters anymore anyways, we're playing for either a 1pm or 3pm tip time on Wednesday in Brooklyn.

I think that’s fair. I also think that sometimes the added range hurts a player and it looks like JDS hasn’t adjusted well to the college game and that’s also on him.
 

mkaufman1

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The JDS situation reminds me to a degree of Vaughn Gray. Many of us on here thought he could be a difference maker if he got some significant playing time.

We all questioned Hewitt a LOT so it made sense to question why he didnt get run. In this same scenario, we question Dave a lot of the same ways so I think its fair to say, why not get JDS some run.

In my opinion I have a little more confidence in this staff making decisions on playing time, and I have to think with the depth issues they’ve had this year (And always had), if the kid could be a difference they would have played him. But then again I don’t really know. I just think the kid didnt work out (possibly for a variety of reasons), and has already been recruited over. Its a shame because I’m sure he could be in the gym shooting a lot and that would probably help him.

I do however think this situation is a bit different than an AJ situation in the fact that AJ showed flashes even if he would get pulled or didnt’ have as much run as we should have thought. JDS unfortunately hasn’t even had a game to my knowledge where he had a big impact (feel free to correct me).
 
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