A-10 Media Day

MasonSAE4

All-American
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Does Paulsen seem intent on recruiting a center at any point? I know it's a guard heavy league but having Troy at the 4 with a true center in the next couple years seems like it could be a dangerous lineup. I fear for us considering we had an average year and yet we were one of the top rebounding teams in the country, a stat that is sure to drop way off.
 
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Cedric Dempsey

Spectator
Basketball is changing and the days of needing an aircraft carrier in the middle are over.

The Golden State Warriors almost won back-to-back NBA titles with the 6-6 Draymond Green playing major minutes at the 5.

I'm pretty sure we can compete in the A-10 with a 6-8 "center."

Especially when you got to a Final Four with a 6'5" center that couldn't jump, but could sure move his feet.
 

gmujim92

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
Does Paulsen seem intent on recruiting a center at any point? I know it's a guard heavy league but having Troy at the 4 with a true center in the next couple years seems like it could be a dangerous lineup. I fear for us considering we had an average year and yet we were one of the top rebounding teams in the country, a stat that is sure to drop way off.

No.

People need to get comfortable with the reality that last year with Shevon was an aberration.

Paulsen's offense runs better without a hulking center stopping the ball and clogging up driving lanes.

We're trading rebounds for offensive efficiency, versatility and the ability to create mismatches.
 

MasonSAE4

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No.

People need to get comfortable with the reality that last year with Shevon was an aberration.

Paulsen's offense runs better without a hulking center stopping the ball and clogging up driving lanes.

We're trading rebounds for offensive efficiency, versatility and the ability to create mismatches.
Well sure, Shevon had hands of stone when it came to the offense. I was just curious what the long term plan was. Maybe Troy is the future. I worry about our shooting though. If we're gonna rely more on it then it has to improve markedly.
 

ephoops

Starter
Does Paulsen seem intent on recruiting a center at any point? I know it's a guard heavy league but having Troy at the 4 with a true center in the next couple years seems like it could be a dangerous lineup. I fear for us considering we had an average year and yet we were one of the top rebounding teams in the country, a stat that is sure to drop way off.


I think you need to look at offensive vs. defensive rebounding. Below is Kenpom's chart of offensive and defensive stats for DP's Bucknell teams as well as last year's Mason team.



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DP's teams at both Bucknell and Mason have been great at limiting offensive rebounds while on defense. However, even with Muscala, DP's teams at Bucknell were not great on the offensive glass. I agree with gmujim92 that the offensive rebounding stats with Shevon last year were an aberration for a Paulsen-coached team -- and the stats in the chart below prove the point. Mason ranked 51st in the country in OR% on offense -- by far the best offensive rebounding performance by a DP-coached team. My expectation is that the offensive rebounding will likely drop off.

However, I expect this year's Mason team to continue the trend of DP-coach strong defensive rebounding teams.

DP's defensive philosophy is to play M-T-M defense with an emphasis on defensive rebounding. His teams do not try to turn over other teams and they typical do not crash the offensive boards. Muscala graduated in 2013, yet DP's 2014 Bucknell team ranked 2nd in the nation in limiting the OR% of its opponents despite the lack of a true center and the presence of fairly un-athletic big men on their front line.

The A-10 is obviously a better conference than the Patriot League with bigger, more athletic personnel. Nonetheless, I believe that defensive rebounding (ie, limiting an opponent's offensive rebounds) will not be a weakness of this year's team despite the loss of Shevon.
 

Falco

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
Does Paulsen seem intent on recruiting a center at any point? I know it's a guard heavy league but having Troy at the 4 with a true center in the next couple years seems like it could be a dangerous lineup. I fear for us considering we had an average year and yet we were one of the top rebounding teams in the country, a stat that is sure to drop way off.

Hopefully we wont need as many 2nd chance points. Hopefully the shots fall on the first attempt.
 

masonjoe

Starter
Does Paulsen seem intent on recruiting a center at any point? I know it's a guard heavy league but having Troy at the 4 with a true center in the next couple years seems like it could be a dangerous lineup. I fear for us considering we had an average year and yet we were one of the top rebounding teams in the country, a stat that is sure to drop way off.

I really wish you and those ByGeorge goofballs would stop doing a roster analysis by looking at the height and weights on ESPN.com. Look at what Paulsen did at Bucknell, hell look at what Larranaga did here with small lineups. Shevon Thompson was a rare find for programs like Mason.
 

gmujim92

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
Well sure, Shevon had hands of stone when it came to the offense. I was just curious what the long term plan was. Maybe Troy is the future. I worry about our shooting though. If we're gonna rely more on it then it has to improve markedly.

I will bet that Paulsen never has another Mason team that is even close to as poor shooting the ball as we were last season.

It was a perfect storm of inherited players who weren't great shooters and young kids who (like almost all freshmen) needed a season to get acclimated to the speed and physicality of D-I hoops.

Going forward, we are going to score with high efficiency. We have a lot of kids who can put the ball in the basket and a coach who has proven he knows how to get them open looks.
 
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gmujim92

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
I suppose it does matter and obviously I hope it works out great. Just saying that by the eye test I have trouble seeing it.

If it helps you feel any better about it, the A-10 is really an ideal conference to play small-ball because so many teams have done it successfully.

Just last season, the three teams from our league that made the NCAA tournament were:

SJU -- whose tallest regular was 6-7 combo F Isaiah Miles
vcu -- whose starting center was 6-6 Mo Alie-Cox, and
Dayton -- whose starting center was 6-6 Kendall Pollard

Conversely, we had one of the top big men in the A-10 last season and finished tied for 12th.

It's a guard's league. We will go as far as our guards take us.
 

G M U

Starter
I really wish you and those ByGeorge goofballs would stop doing a roster analysis by looking at the height and weights on ESPN.com. Look at what Paulsen did at Bucknell, hell look at what Larranaga did here with small lineups. Shevon Thompson was a rare find for programs like Mason.

Rather specious argument, we can assume that Pauslen will find similar success with our players and yes Larranaga did do wonders with smaller lineups but how does that apply to this particular team? No, height and weight isn't the only contributing factor to rebounds but it certainly helps. It's a fair argument to believe that we will have fewer rebounds this season due to size but we will also have advantages elsewhere due to our speed and the system Paulsen can run now with a smaller lineup.
 

Leesburg Chankenstank III

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If it helps you feel any better about it, the A-10 is really an ideal conference to play small-ball because so many teams have done it successfully.

Just last season, the three teams from our league that made the NCAA tournament were:

SJU -- whose tallest regular was 6-7 combo F Isaiah Miles
vcu -- whose starting center was 6-6 Mo Alie-Cox, and
Dayton -- whose starting center was 6-6 Kendall Pollard

Conversely, we had one of the top big men in the A-10 last season and finished tied for 12th.

It's a guard's league. We will go as far as our guards take us.

Game.
Set.
Match.
 

99 Patriot

Starter
GIVING DAY 2023
If it helps you feel any better about it, the A-10 is really an ideal conference to play small-ball because so many teams have done it successfully.

Just last season, the three teams from our league that made the NCAA tournament were:

SJU -- whose tallest regular was 6-7 combo F Isaiah Miles
vcu -- whose starting center was 6-6 Mo Alie-Cox, and
Dayton -- whose starting center was 6-6 Kendall Pollard

Conversely, we had one of the top big men in the A-10 last season and finished tied for 12th.

It's a guard's league. We will go as far as our guards take us.

I love me some small ball and am the furthest from advocating for a big lineup. Merely saying Troy didn't strike me as even a small ball 5. I'm sure I'm wrong.

Our philosophy is more what worries me about going so small then our personnel. Generally when you think of small ball, you think of uptempo, mismatches, forcing turnovers and hitting a lot of 3's. Generally we are a slower tempo man-to-man team that doesn't gamble or force turnovers, relies on cleaning the glass and at least at this point in time are not great 3-point shooters. Can we do all of those things and play small? I hope so.
 

gmujim92

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
I love me some small ball and am the furthest from advocating for a big lineup. Merely saying Troy didn't strike me as even a small ball 5. I'm sure I'm wrong.

Our philosophy is more what worries me about going so small then our personnel. Generally when you think of small ball, you think of uptempo, mismatches, forcing turnovers and hitting a lot of 3's. Generally we are a slower tempo man-to-man team that doesn't gamble or force turnovers, relies on cleaning the glass and at least at this point in time are not great 3-point shooters. Can we do all of those things and play small? I hope so.

I think maybe "small ball" doesn't really accurately describe what we're doing.

We're gonna start Jalen (6-7), DeAndre (6-7), Jaire (6-4), Marquise (6-2) and Otis (5-11).

Troy (6-8) should be the first big off the bench.

We do have a lot of guards, but Boyd, Newman and Kier are all 6-4 and Murrell is 6-2.

It's not bully ball like last season, but we ain't the Lilliputians, either.
 
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Herndon

All-Conference
Basketball is changing and the days of needing an aircraft carrier in the middle are over.

The Golden State Warriors almost won back-to-back NBA titles with the 6-6 Draymond Green playing major minutes at the 5.

I'm pretty sure we can compete in the A-10 with a 6-8 "center."

Again, I'm less concerned with him being a 6'8 "center" than I am with him being a "6'8" center.
 
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