Game 30 - A10 Tournament: #9 GMU (14-15 / 7-9) vs #8 Fordham (15-15 / 8-10) on Thursday, March 10, at NOON.

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Fordham closed out the regular season 15-15 and 8-10 in A10 play. They were 10-4 at home, 3-9 on the road, and 2-2 at neutral sites.


History: Including tournament play GMU is 5-7 vs Fordham as a member of the A10.

We lost to the Rams 50-47 when we played them at Fordham on January 12. We shot 35% from the field and 25% from 3 in the loss. We only got to the free throw line 5 times! The Rams did a fabulous job containing our big 4. Oduro (foul trouble early), Shwartz, Cooper, and Gaines were a combined 11-29 from the field for a total of only 26 points. They dared XJ to shoot and he did to the tune of 6-16 (5-14) from the floor. They banged us and beat us physically. Fordham shot 40% from the floor and 33.3% from 3. They were just 2-9 from the foul line. Chuba Ohams paced the Rams with 17 points and 12 rebounds. He is a very tough match-up for Josh. It was an ugly game all around, but that style fits Fordham.
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Schedule: https://fordhamsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22
Roster: https://fordhamsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
Stats: https://static.fordhamsports.com/custompages/stats/mbb/2021-22/teamstat.htm

Fordham averages 66.7 points per game while giving up 67.2. The Rams shoot 39.7% from the floor and 30.3% from 3. Opponents are shooting 42.7% from the field and 30.8% from 3. The Rams shoot 73.0% from the free throw line. The Rams are being out rebounded by their opponents by .9 boards per game. They average 13.3 turnovers per contest.

The game is on NBCSN.

My prediction: We lose and the nightmare is over. Fordham 32 - GMU 17.

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We are going to win this convincingly just to spite everyone here.

Rough second half of conference play, but I’m excited about the future under CKE. Some first year coaching mistakes for sure, but I kinda expected it.

Maybe we lose this game. Maybe we win 4 in a row and we all jerk off with champagne on the plane ride to the dance. Who knows. All I’d say is I wouldn’t rule this team out yet, Cooper and Ticket are both back to playing to their averages after one of the toughest double slump I’ve ever seen at Mason.
 

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We are going to win this convincingly just to spite everyone here.

Rough second half of conference play, but I’m excited about the future under CKE. Some first year coaching mistakes for sure, but I kinda expected it.

Maybe we lose this game. Maybe we win 4 in a row and we all jerk off with champagne on the plane ride to the dance. Who knows. All I’d say is I wouldn’t rule this team out yet, Cooper and Ticket are both back to playing to their averages after one of the toughest double slump I’ve ever seen at Mason.

Too optimistic! We suck!

(And we’d be dancing in a circle first then dousing ourselves with champagne while @gmujim92 rubs his nipples let’s be real)
 

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I predict a convincing win with Hartwell hitting eight consecutive 3s. He is interviewed after the game where he yells, “Take that bitches.” He becomes an international meme which he trademarks and becomes a multimillionaire. He buys MasonHoops and deletes all hater accounts. He then takes it too far by hiring a guy he knows from back home who kidnaps the biggest haters and shoots a snuff film where they are a** raped and then killed. An FBI investigation reveals that Jolly was the on camera talent. After reading through the threads, the jury finds Jamal’s actions justified.
 

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Winning this game would not change what he needs to do in the offseason.

That was a nod to the fact that right now Neptune has to be ahead of English as getting his team playing like a team than it does just about Mason.

Edit: this is stated really poorly. Neptune has done a better job in his first year than English has. And it also hard to argue that Neptune had more to work with.

Some hard lessons need to be learned.
 
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That was a nod to the fact that right now Neptune has to be ahead of English as getting his team playing like a team than it does just about Mason.

Edit: this is stated really poorly. Neptune has done a better job in his first year than English has. And it also hard to argue that Neptune had more to work with.

Some hard lessons need to be learned.
Not to sound like a Kim-pologist, but that’s a really simplistic analysis and I don’t think it’s comparing apples to apples. Mason played a harder schedule than Fordham OOC and the second-hardest schedule of any A-10 team.

Neptune gets blown because Fordham has been so dreadful for so long, but they also benefited from the A-10’s unbalanced schedule — half of their 8 wins came against Duquesne and LaSalle, the two worst teams in the league. They hadn’t beaten a team ahead of them in the standings until the final game of the regular season. No way they finish 8-10 against Mason’s schedule.
 

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That was a nod to the fact that right now Neptune has to be ahead of English as getting his team playing like a team than it does just about Mason.

Edit: this is stated really poorly. Neptune has done a better job in his first year than English has. And it also hard to argue that Neptune had more to work with.

Some hard lessons need to be learned.
Maybe, But his insistence on the trident will be his downfall.
 

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Not to sound like a Kim-pologist, but that’s a really simplistic analysis and I don’t think it’s comparing apples to apples. Mason played a harder schedule than Fordham OOC and the second-hardest schedule of any A-10 team.

Neptune gets blown because Fordham has been so dreadful for so long, but they also benefited from the A-10’s unbalanced schedule — half of their 8 wins came against Duquesne and LaSalle, the two worst teams in the league. They hadn’t beaten a team ahead of them in the standings until the final game of the regular season. No way they finish 8-10 against Mason’s schedule.

It’s because he managed to get his team to buy into an identity right away. He was closer to beating both Davidson and vcu than we were whereas Mason got softer as the season went on culminating in giving up 17 offensive rebounds on the last game of the season and physically pushed around by freaking Davidson earlier in the week.
 

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It’s because he managed to get his team to buy into an identity right away. He was closer to beating both Davidson and vcu than we were whereas Mason got softer as the season went on culminating in giving up 17 offensive rebounds on the last game of the season and physically pushed around by freaking Davidson earlier in the week.
Respectfully none of that rebuts my points. Fordham took advantage of playing a softer schedule. Give Mason 2 games apiece against Duquesne and LaSalle, give Fordham 2 games apiece against vcu and Richmond, and there’s no way they finish ahead of us. Zero chance.
 

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It’s because he managed to get his team to buy into an identity right away. He was closer to beating both Davidson and vcu than we were whereas Mason got softer as the season went on culminating in giving up 17 offensive rebounds on the last game of the season and physically pushed around by freaking Davidson earlier in the week.
**regular season champion Davidson. I agree with your overall sentiment, but let’s not recognize they were the class of the league this year.
 

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Respectfully none of that rebuts my points. Fordham took advantage of playing a softer schedule. Give Mason 2 games apiece against Duquesne and LaSalle, give Fordham 2 games apiece against vcu and Richmond, and there’s no way they finish ahead of us. Zero chance.

They finished ahead of us because they hold the head-to-head.

They also did play Davidson twice. And they swept La Salle and we lost to them (another reason they finished ahead of us). They also swept GW and we went 1-1 (yet a third reason why they finished ahead of us.

So, yes, we played a tougher schedule but we also lost to some pretty meh teams (including Fordham) and they largely avoided doing that.
 

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How long did Neptune coach at Villanova?
 

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I predict a convincing win with Hartwell hitting eight consecutive 3s. He is interviewed after the game where he yells, “Take that bitches.” He becomes an international meme which he trademarks and becomes a multimillionaire. He buys MasonHoops and deletes all hater accounts. He then takes it too far by hiring a guy he knows from back home who kidnaps the biggest haters and shoots a snuff film where they are a** raped and then killed. An FBI investigation reveals that Jolly was the on camera talent. After reading through the threads, the jury finds Jamal’s actions justified.

Boy that escalated quickly!
 
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