Game 32: A-10 Tournament, #10 seed Fordham (in Pittsburgh), Thursday, March 9th, 6 PM, NBCSN

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Mason got the 7 seed in the Atlantic 10 tournament after GW beat Dayton on Saturday night. Fordham comes into this game with a 13-18 record after losing to LaSalle by a score of 66-54 on Saturday afternoon.

The winner of this game will get vcu on Friday night at 6 PM. The bracket is here: http://www.atlantic10.com/pdf9/5293820.pdf

Fordham played Mason once this season, a game that Mason won by a score of 73-67, and that box score is here: http://gomason.com/boxscore.aspx?id=6835&path=mbball

Fordham's stats are here: http://www.fordhamsports.com/custompages/stats/mbb/2016-17/teamcume.htm

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Even if we lose we've "advanced" further than ever before.

Hmm, I was thinking about going but TV is tempting. Plus gotta go back to dirtball Richmond that weekend so probably will pass.
 

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If we get past Fordham, then it'll be the first time in years that the Green Machine and the Peppas have played in the same place and at the same time. Unfortunately, the competition between the two would be a whole lot more lopsided than it used to be...
 

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Re: Fordham @ La Salle - 3/4, 2:00pm - Pre-Game/In-Game Thread

« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 10:44:11 pm »
Quote from: ramfan01 on Yesterday at 10:27:19 pm
George Mason on Thursday. I'd rather them than Lasalle who is clearly a bad matchup for us. I still don't like our odds based on JH most likely out and this team looks spent. A win would be a nice cap off to the season.


I am not convinced that Hawkins is out. These days guys go in boots just as a precautionary measure and/or to truly give the foot a break from any impact. I do agree though that the team looks spent. Only 7 scholarship players today and Bunting was not used all that much out of the 40 minutes.



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Re: Fordham @ La Salle - 3/4, 2:00pm - Pre-Game/In-Game Thread

« Reply #71 on: Today at 08:47:49 am »
Quote from: drunkle on Today at 05:40:35 am
FUV guys said Bunting has a bum shoulder.


So we literally might suit 6 guys for our game on thursday:/(
I was upset that JN did not play him in the second half yesterday because I think Bunting deserves more minutes. This at least explains why. The big question is if bunting and JH can play Thursday. I think we can win if they do.
 

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These guys deserve to get 1 more win in "league play" after all their hard work. The last 5 games were rough and we all know it would be with URI Dayton GW Duquense vcu down the stretch. Its obvious they are gassed a bit and being young its not to be unexpected.

Lets hope they can handle Fordham's ridiculous defensive scheme and get through them to get the program's first A10 tournament win.

But even if they lose, being .500 in conference, playing on Thursday and being a 7 seed is a huge accomplishment.
 

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I don't think Sengfelder is going to go 5-14 overall and 1-9 from three against GMU again like he did earlier in the season. That concerns me a bit.
 

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If we get past Fordham, then it'll be the first time in years that the Green Machine and the Peppas have played in the same place and at the same time. Unfortunately, the competition between the two would be a whole lot more lopsided than it used to be...

vcu still has a band?
 

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Fordham's defense is difficult to prepare for because it is so unorthodox. It's like trying to stop the triple-option offense in football -- you just don't face many teams that do it the way they do.

I've always thought we should be able to get open shots at will because they gamble and double-team the ball so randomly, but they consistently produce tons of turnovers so the system clearly works.

Gonna have to take care of the ball and hit open shots to advance.
 

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Fordham's defense is difficult to prepare for because it is so unorthodox. It's like trying to stop the triple-option offense in football -- you just don't face many teams that do it the way they do.

I've always thought we should be able to get open shots at will because they gamble and double-team the ball so randomly, but they consistently produce tons of turnovers so the system clearly works.

I gif'd the Fordham game here:

http://giantkiller.co/ByGeorge/2017/02/20/peteys-bucket-of-knowledge-the-weekly-breakdown-3/

There are a ton of instances of us getting open shots by swinging the ball around. Fordham throws insane three and four man traps at the ball, all but conceding layups if they don't come up with the steal. They generate a ton of turnovers (#2 in the country in opponent turnover percentage) and have actually made great strides defensively - they're top 100 in the country in defensive rating now.

I didn't capture it in the breakdown but I think Fordham closed the gap in the second half by relaxing into more conventional two-man traps at odd spots on the court. They have a tendency to look conventional for a moment then blitz the man who catches the first pass, or blitz in spots like the baseline. In the first half when they would send three defenders at the ball, in the second half they started sending two defenders with the third guy playing free safety and trying to pick off the pass. You can see how this would be overwhelming.

It kind of depends on shaky guard play and shaky ball movement to work. It's definitely exploitable but I don't feel great about it given that we've turned the ball over an average of 15 times per game against vcu, GW, Dayton, and Rhode Island in four of the last five games. We turned the ball over 18 times against Fordham last time and they got ten more shots up than we did. Definitely don't want that to happen again.

One thing that helps is that Boyd was suspended last game and he's been coming on strong lately. He's the kind of player who can help take advantage of Fordham's nonsense by putting the ball on the floor against a stretched out defense and getting to the rim.
 

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Fordham's defense is difficult to prepare for because it is so unorthodox. It's like trying to stop the triple-option offense in football -- you just don't face many teams that do it the way they do.

I've always thought we should be able to get open shots at will because they gamble and double-team the ball so randomly, but they consistently produce tons of turnovers so the system clearly works.

Gonna have to take care of the ball and hit open shots to advance.

We played amazingly against it for the first, what, 33 minutes or so? Those last 7 minutes were brutal, though. Looking back through the play-by-play, in the last eight minutes we had one made basket, 6 turnovers, and 5 missed FTs (including 2 front-ends of 1-and-1s). At the 8:54 minute mark Troy Temara makes a layup and we are leading 61-48, we don't score another point until Otis's two FTs with 1:25 left in the game. That's brutal.
 
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I hope Mason can get out of the 3 point shooting slump that has hit recently. So many open looks in the Duquense game and none would fall till the 2nd half, and even then, most didn't fall.
 

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Season of streaks, started the first 4 games playing horribly, then a stretch of 9 wins, then 9 games of win/loss/win/loss, then 4 dominating wins in a row, then finish with 5 disappointing games versus some high level talent. Praying for another little streak that starts with Fordham.

Mason 76
Fordham: 64
 
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