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Discussion in 'George Mason Basketball' started by GSII, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. tblack33

    tblack33 Starter

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    Lol I just don't understand why we are all so hell bent on seeing us play our guys out of position. And then we wonder why we are losing games or guys aren't developing in normal linear progressions. Our best players under Paulsen have developed in the position they were physically best suited to play (AJ, Kier, Otis).
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    Like who knows, Dady has the physical tools to develop into a just fine 3 one day, why put him out of position and at a greater risk of failing? Then we have to recruit over him and he transfers. And we all do the surprised pikachu.
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  3. MasonFanatic

    MasonFanatic All-Conference

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    No, we're not. He's not a skinny freshman anymore!
  4. tblack33

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    Lol well he was listed at 201 at the start of last season, and he's still listed at 201 now, so unless they updated the rest of the teams weight besides him I think he probably is.
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  5. sleeperpick

    sleeperpick Hall of Famer

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    I agree with this for the most part
    Broken down in mins by position for next year barring unforeseen injuries

    PG: XJ 20 mins Hartwell 15 mins Polite 5 mins
    SG: Greene 20 min Polite 10 mins Hartwell (too small to guard most 2 guards) 5 mins Kolek 5 mins
    SF: Miller 20 mins Boyd 15 mins Frazier 5 mins Dady might swap those with Frazier idk which one is more ready to play without Jack playing defense
    PF: AJ 3o mins Miller 5 mins Henry 5 mins
    C: Oduro 15 mins Calixte 10 mins AJ 5 mins Henry 5 mins (matchup dependent here) (Agree with you)


    Yes, AJ will probably have to play 35 mins a night for us to be competitive and stay out of foul trouble each game. If Henry is ready to contribute right away this gets a lot easier and puts less stress on Miller and AJ. Yes, I have never been a big believer of Boyd being that good and DP will probably double the mins I slotted for him (I think that is a mistake)
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    sleeperpick Hall of Famer

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    Daddy looked way more like an oversized 2 than a 4 in limited mins last year. But that is just my opinion. He is also of drinking age so idk if he will be growing that much more height wise
  7. tblack33

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    If he gets any taller over the next 3 years then some of our short round fans need to get over to Southside and have whatever he's having.
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    sleeperpick Hall of Famer

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    I will eat nothing but Southside if that is the case. It generally didn't make me grow in height during college and I usually lost weight after eating there.
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  9. Patriotsince81

    Patriotsince81 All-American

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    Minutes per game from last year:
    Javon 32.2. I expect that his minutes will stay in this range.
    Jordan 32.4. Minutes will stay the same.
    AJ 27.7 His minutes need to come up to 30-32.
    Jamal 29.0. His minutes need to come down to 10 per night.
    XJ 29.2. He should get 30 per night.
    Josh 16.9. Josh will probably get 20 this year.
    Greg 13.1 Should play 10 unless he has developed a go to move on offense and has learned how to make a free throw.

    My projected minutes add up to 165. That leave 35 minutes divided up for Boyd, the freshman and Dady. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. I am especially curious to see what minutes Ian earns, as he can play multiple positions.
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  10. sleeperpick

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    I thought Javon looked way too tired last year playing so many.. we also have 2 more guards than we did (Kier doesn't count) so I expect his mins to go down hopefully (hope at least one freshman guard is ready to contribute)
    Jordan-agree
    AJ- Agree
    Jamal- unfortunately I agree but I think he still plays a bunch
    XJ- probably going to need to run him into the ground but I hope he plays less mins so he can use some of that energy on a semblance of on ball defense
    Josh- you're probably right....
    Greg- maybe he turns into Shevon :)
  11. tblack33

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    ^^This. Even though we are deeper this year, starters *generally* need 20-25 minimum to get and stay in a groove. I think PG is the only position where talent wise we can expect an even split (with both getting an extra couple of minutes at the 2 to give Javon a breather. I think that Polite isn't going to see a ton of floor time this year, he doesn't really fit any need that we have (unless there are injuries). Kolek will probably get some minutes because he is supposed to be a shooter, and we desparately need that. Boyd will be first off the bench and will probably pull 20-ish minutes a game between the 3 and 4 spots. Josh's minutes should and will go up to 20-22. Not sure what will happen with Greg. Unless there are injuries, I don't expect any of the freshman to average over 12 mpg this season, and they probably shouldn't. Part of having an experienced team is ya know, using that experience. It doesn't help anyone to have every single person on the roster play, this isn't rec league. Guys need to get in a rhythm and have a little lee way and not be worried about getting yanked immediately.
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  12. Patriotsince81

    Patriotsince81 All-American

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    In anticipation of being questioned on why I feel Jamal's minutes should be reduced so much I will use the old saying that you are what your numbers say you are. I have never questioned Jamal's heart, work ethic, or desire. What I can question is his productivity. Yes, I know he was sick. Here is what the numbers say about what he brought to the table last year.

    Minutes - 840
    Minutes per game - 29
    38% from the field - Not a great stat.
    31% from 3 - Also not a great stat.
    48 assists from a point guard in 840 minutes? Not nearly good enough.
    259 shots in 840 minutes, an average of 8.9 per game. He certainly found time to shoot.

    If he plays the point does he really look to pass first? In my eyes he is too small to defend the 2.
  13. tblack33

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    So i'll say that according to my medical opinion Jamal probably had the rona, so personally I'm giving him a pass for his second half of the season. He looked great going into the tournament.

    If you look at our guard stats from last year they are all jacked up. Javon led the team in steals, points, assists, and minutes. Not what you would expect for an off the ball guard. All of our PGs need to get better at distributing the ball.
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    Patriotsince81 All-American

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    Sorry, just realized we are way off topic. Back to Mike Gray. Time to start a 2020-2021 prediction thread?
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    If you take out the month where he had the mysterious lung disease, he shot 37% from 3 in the A10, which is damn good for a guard coming off the bench.

    If XJ can get confidence in his outside shot (he doesn’t have to be a knockdown shooter) I suspect he will lead the team in assists next year (and maybe be 1 or 2 on FT attempts because he’s going to get to the rim A LOT if they have to guard him tighter on the perimeter).
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