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  1. Pikapppatri8

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    Yeah most of it is built on bullshit.
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    PiKap, I'm sorry but you've drunk so much Trump Kool-Aid you've lost your ability to judge w/out bias.

    Trump has failed his biggest test and tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or millions, of Americans will die because of it. I pray daily that my beautiful, wonderful wife with her auto-immune disorder and slight case of asthma isn't one of them. It's not a question of whether or not he's done anything, it's whether he did enough. And the answer is clearly a No. Not even close. He's a narcissistic sociopath still only focused on himself.

    That he's not alone in his failure, something your Orange Man Bad equivalents in the opposing tribe are incapable of acknowledging, doesn't change that.
  3. Pikapppatri8

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    Slow your roll - so given that a large part of the spread was based on China hiding the nature of the disease and allowing thousands of their citizens to travel world wide infecting everyone had nothing to do with it? And you want to lay this all on the feet of Trump. Sorry cannot buy it.

    Please tell me anyone in January who was warning about this?? Anyone ? No. Period. Your "timeline" was based on articles mostly from the Washington Post which has had a tragic history of being wrong and false.

    Which American politician took any action or made any noise in January about this? Tell me please. None. Trump ain't perfect but he actually did something in January with travel restrictions on China and other countries who were infected in Asia. That is a fact. You cannot refute that. Did anyone support his action in January? Nope - every democrat stated in public that he over-reacted. Yet - closing off travel was even hihgligthed by Dr. Fauci as being critical to slowing the spread. Democrats wanted open borders. Europe did that and they are worse off than we are.

    The only thing you could possibly point to - was difficulty in getting tests out. And if you bothered to read the Reuters article which had detailed timing and references to real sources and officials - you would see that most of the issue was based on how we were set up to produce tests (through the government) and approved by the government. That did cause a delay but that was not on Trump as he didn't create the regulations that screwed it up. Its easy to see when you get past the politics and personal dislike of Trump.

    In fact if you look at what South Korea had done- they had the same experience we are having with SARS/MERS 10 years ago with testing because they had the same type of rules and laws. After suffering much worse than any other country in that pandemic -- they changed their rules to give freer reign to the private sector to produce and deploy tests. Its an issue of government red tape that existed long before this virus came out and Trump became President.

    Fact is he acted in January with travel bans, closing the border and declaring a state of emergency in Janaury . Democrats were still jerking off about impeachment in January.
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    From the guy quoting from the TennesseeStar?


    This is the brainchild or Steve Gill who spent a week in jail over unpaid child support to his Ex-Wife. And it was the current wife (or at least was then) that alerted the media.
    https://www.nashvillescene.com/news...host-steve-gill-jailed-for-back-child-support

    And allows Op-Eds from Judson Phillips
    https://tennesseestar.com/2020/04/0...ry-chinese-coronavirus-effect-on-the-economy/

    Judson was recently disbarred for running a timeshare relief scam
    https://www.wsmv.com/news/davidson-...cle_3b404184-87ce-11e9-ab04-8335cb4fb011.html

    But what Ole Judson is most famous for is his Tea Party Nation scam and getting sued by the Venetian for over a half-million. (Google it)
  5. Pikapppatri8

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    You still haven't refuted my points from the NBC?Reuters article - and yes I referenced the Star but there were other papers carrying the same article.
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    That you even quoted me w/this in your response proves my point about your inability to see reality when it comes to Trump.

    You're like @phoenix-arizona in blaming him but flipped to defending him.
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    You think that the TennesseeStary is a newspaper?

    You're going to lose this one, dude. I'm extremely familiar w/that scam site.
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    here is a Heritage Foundation Analysis with multiple sources pretty much saying the same thing as the Tenn Star article - the point is still valid and backed by fact.

    https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/western-media-falls-chinas-propaganda-trap

    "The idea that some American and European news outlets are giving more credibility to the Chinese party line on the coronavirus than they do to their own governments is nothing less than bizarre. Yet, here we are.

    Even in this time of national crisis, sheer hatred for the U.S. president causes many in the mainstream media to interpret his every action and statement as unacceptable.

    Not only that, but according to the Media Research Center, the same news media that continuously piles on Trump fails almost entirely to shine a critical light on the actions of the Chinese government.

    In a damning report looking at evening news broadcasts from Jan. 17 (when the first coronavirus story broke) through March 13 (when the president declared a national state of emergency), the Media Research Center found that out of 634 minutes of coronavirus coverage, just 3 minutes and 14 seconds were in any way critical of the Chinese government’s actions.

    In 20% of the stories, reporters cited Chinese statistics, but failed to challenge them most of the time (97%).

    Over the past decade, Beijing has invested heavily in extending its propaganda reach across the globe, which now is paying off.

    Major newspapers such as The Washington Post and the Financial Times carry paid “country advertising” supplements, paid for by China and other countries practicing public relations. These supplements are nice moneymakers for the news organizations and almost indistinguishable from regular news pages.

    In some cases, the arrangement goes even further. According to an investigation by the Daily Caller, the Daily Mail newspaper in London has had a content-sharing relationship since 2015 with China’s People’s Daily, the official organ of the Chinese Communist Party.
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    See my additional post that makes the same point - you still have refuted my points on how your source was pulling equal lies - was a blog and facts refute how much fault you lay at Trump's feet.

    The fact you think millions of Americans will die because of this - means you are not looking at the facts on the ground.
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    Yep. Don't you believe your lying eyes and ears.
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    Or maybe you are schizoid and flip flop? Fact is the only thing you can complain about is how hard it was to get tests out and you ignore the buearacracy, laws and red tape that existed for decades on this. Up until Trump martialed the private sector --- the CDC was the sole authorized producer of any tests (government) and the FDA then had to approve their tests.

    Yeah Trump created that.
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    Not from heavily edited video --- know - - I preview more comprehensive data points, facts, and analysis.

    Twitter and the Bulwark Blog site shouldn't be your own sources. I am going to do some digging on Bulwark and will probably find out some interesting facts on it.
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    And I easily find out its founded by Bill Kristol in 2018. Ok there you go.
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    Here is a timeline of actions taken from the HHS/CDC websites on corona - this is just for January 2020 (what were the Democrats focused on in January?):

    December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.

    January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.

    January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.

    January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.

    January 17:
    The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.

    January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.

    January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.

    January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.

    January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.

    January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

    January 31: The Trump Administration:
    • Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
    • Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
    • Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.
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    Here is the timeline for February --- When the Democrats were all over the TV about impeachment:

    February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.

    February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.

    February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.

    February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.

    February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.

    February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.

    February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.

    February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.

    February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.

    February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.

    February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.

    February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.

    February 29: The Trump Administration:

    • Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
    • Barred all travel to Iran.
    • Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.
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    First half of March:

    March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

    March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus.

    March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

    March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus.

    March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

    The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions.

    March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus.

    March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing.

    March 11: President Trump:

    • Announced travel restrictions on foreigners who had visited Europe in the last 14 days.
    • Directed the Small Business Administration to issue low-interest loans to affected small businesses and called on congress to increase this fund by $50 billion.
    • Directed the Treasury Department to defer tax payments for affected individuals & businesses, & provide $200 billion in “additional liquidity.”
    • Met with American bankers at the White House to discuss coronavirus.
    March 13: President Trump declared a national emergency in order to access $42 billion in existing funds to combat the coronavirus.

    March 13: President Trump announced:

    • Public-private partnerships to open up drive-through testing collection sites.
    • A pause on interest payments on federal student loans.
    • An order to the Department of Energy to purchase oil for the strategic petroleum reserve.
    March 13: The Food & Drug Administration:

    • Granted Roche AG an emergency approval for automated coronavirus testing kits.
    • Issued an emergency approval to Thermo Fisher for a coronavirus test within 24 hours of receiving the request.
    March 13: HHS announced funding for the development of two new rapid diagnostic tests, which would be able to detect coronavirus in approximately 1 hour.

    March 14: The Coronavirus Relief Bill passed the House of Representatives.

    March 14: The Trump Administration announced the European travel ban will extend to the UK and Ireland.

    March 15: President Trump held a phone call with over two dozen grocery store executives to discuss on-going demand for food and other supplies.

    March 15: HHS announced it is projected to have 1.9 million COVID-19 tests available in 2,000 labs this week.

    March 15: Google announced a partnership with the Trump Administration to develop a website dedicated to coronavirus education, prevention, & local resources.

    March 15: All 50 states were contacted through FEMA to coordinate “federally-supported, state-led efforts” to end coronavirus.

    March 16: President Trump:

    • Held a tele-conference with governors to discuss coronavirus preparedness and response.
    • Participated in a call with G7 leaders who committed to increasing coordination in response to the coronavirus and restoring global economic confidence.
    • Announced that the first potential vaccine for coronavirus has entered a phase one trial in a record amount of time.
    • Announced “15 days to slow the spread” coronavirus guidance.
    March 16: The FDA announced it was empowering states to authorize tests developed and used by labs in their states.

    March 16: Asst. Secretary for Health confirmed the availability of 1 million coronavirus tests, and projected 2 million tests available the next week and 5 million the following.

    March 17: President Trump announced:

    • CMS will expand telehealth benefits for Medicare beneficiaries.
    • Relevant Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act penalties will not be enforced.
    • The Army Corps of Engineers is on ”standby” to assist federal & state governments.
    March 17: President Trump spoke to fast food executives from Wendy’s, McDonald’s and Burger King to discuss drive-thru services recommended by CDC

    March 17: President Trump met with tourism industry representatives along with industrial supply, retail, and wholesale representatives.

    March 17: Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin met with lawmakers to discuss stimulus measures to relieve the economic burden of coronavirus on certain industries, businesses, and American workers.

    March 17: Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue announced a partnership between USDA, Baylor University, McLane Global, and Pepsi Co. to provide one million meals per weak to rural children in response to widespread school closures.

    March 17: The Treasury Department:

    • Contributed $10 billion through the economic stabilization fund to the Federal Reserve’s commercial paper funding facility.
    • Deferred $300 billion in tax payments for 90 days without penalty, up to $1 million for individuals & $10 million for business.
    March 17: The Department of Defense announced it will make available to HHS up to five million respirator masks and 2,000 ventilators.

    March 18: President Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, which provides free testing and paid sick leave for workers impacted by the coronavirus.

    March 18: President Trump announced:

    • Temporary closure of the U.S.-Canada border to non-essential traffic.
    • Plans to invoke the Defense Production Act in order to increase the number of necessary supplies needed to combat coronavirus.
    • FEMA has been activated in every region at its highest level of response.
    • The U.S. Navy will deploy USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy hospital ships.
    • All foreclosures and evictions will be suspended for a period of time.
    March 18: Secretary of Defense Mark Esper confirmed:

    • 1 million masks are now immediately available.
    • The Army Corps of Engineers is in NY consulting on how to best assist state officials.
    March 18: HHS temporarily suspended a regulation that prevents doctors from practicing across state lines.

    March 18: President Trump spoke to:

    • Doctors, physicians, and nurses on the front lines containing the spread of coronavirus.
    • 130 CEOs of the Business Roundtable to discuss on-going public-private partnerships in response to the coronavirus pandemic.
    March 19: President Trump announced:

    • Very encouraging progress shown by anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine for fighting coronavirus.
    • Carnival Cruise Lines will make ships available for use as hospitals in impacted areas to use for non-coronavirus patients.
    March 19: Vice President Pence announced tens of thousands of ventilators have been identified that can be converted to treat patients.
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    March 20: Secretary Azar announced:

    • FEMA is coordinating and assisting coronavirus testing at labs across the country
    • The CDC is suspending all illegal entries to the country based on the public health threat, via Section 362 of the Public Health & Security Act
    March 20: Secretary Azar sent a letter to all 50 Governors that the federal government is buying and making available 200,000 testing swabs

    March 21: Vice President Pence announced to date over 195,000 Americans tested for coronavirus and have received their results

    March 21: The Trump Administration announced HHS placed an order for hundreds of millions of N95 masks through FEMA

    March 21: The FDA announced it had given emergency approval to a new coronavirus test that delivers results in hours, with an intended rollout of March 30

    March 21: Adm. Giroir confirmed 10 million testing kits had been put into the commercial market from March 2 through March 14

    March 22: President Trump approved major disaster declarations for:

    • Washington State
    • California
    March 22: President Trump announced:

    • Governors will remain in command of National Guard forces & the federal govt will fund 100% of operations cost
    • He directed the federal govt to provide 4 large federal medical stations with 2,000 beds for CA & 1,000 beds for NY & WA.
    March 22: President Trump confirmed his administration was working with Peru & Honduras to return Americans stranded in both countries as a result of travel restrictions.

    March 22: Vice President Pence announced:

    • The testing backlog will be resolved by midweek.
    • To date, over 254,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.
    March 22: President Trump announced that the USNS Mercy will be deployed to Los Angeles.

    March 22: FEMA issued guidance for tribal governments to seek federal assistance under the President’s emergency declaration.

    March 23: President Trump signed an executive order invoking section 4512 of the Defense Production Act to prohibit the hoarding of vital medical supplies.

    March 23: VP Pence announced:

    • 313,000 Americans were tested for the coronavirus & received results.
    • FEMA established a supply chain stabilization task force so Americans get supplies they need.
    • HHS will have commercial labs prioritize testing for hospitalized patients.
    March 23: The White House Office of Science & Technology Policy announced a public-private consortium to:

    • Advance coronavirus research.
    • Provide access to computing technology and resources for researchers.
    March 23: Attorney General Barr announced:

    • The Justice Department held a National Task Force meeting on hoarding and price gouging.
    • Each of the 93 U.S. Attorney General offices is designating a lead prosectuor to prevent hoarding.
    March 23: President Trump announced HHS is working to designate essential medical supplies as “scarce” to prohibit hoarding of these items.
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    March 23: The Treasury Department announced it is working with the Federal Reserve to lend up to $300 billion to businesses and local governments.

    March 24: President Trump announced the Army Corps of Engineers & the National Guard are constructing four hospitals and four medical centers in New York.

    March 24: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for the state of Iowa related to the coronavirus outbreak.

    March 24: Vice President Pence:

    • Confirmed FEMA sent New York 2,000 ventilators.
    • Announced individuals who have recently been in New York should self-quarantine for 14 days.
    March 24: Dr. Deborah Birx announced the U.S. has conducted more coronavirus tests in the last week than South Korea has over the prior eight weeks.

    March 24: The U.S. Army issued orders for three army hospitals to deploy their health care professionals to New York and Washington state, at the direction of Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy.

    March 25: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the #coronavirus outbreak for:

    • Texas
    • Florida
    • North Carolina
    March 25: President Trump & Vice President Pence held a conference call with 140 non-profit organization leaders, including The Salvation Army & The Red Cross, to discuss coronavirus response efforts.

    March 25: President Trump signed a bill reauthorizing The Older Americans Act, which supports senior citizens by providing meals, transportation, and other crucial services.

    March 25: Vice President Pence

    • Held a conference call with equipment manufacturers to discuss on-going coronavirus response efforts.

    • Announced 432,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received results.
    • Confirmed 4,000 ventilators were delivered to New York.
    March 25: Vice President Pence held discussions with multiple governors, including the Governor of Indiana & the Governor of Michigan

    March 26: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

    • Illinois

    • New Jersey
    • Maryland
    • Missouri
    March 26: President Trump announced the USNS Comfort will depart for NYC on Saturday to assist in the coronavirus response – 3 weeks ahead of schedule!

    March 26: President Trump participated in a video conference with the leaders of the G20 to discuss the global coronavirus response & the need for countries to share information and data on the spread of the virus.

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