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State of the Program - Part 2

Discussion in 'George Mason Basketball' started by Patriotsince81, Mar 8, 2020.

  1. Patriotsince81

    Patriotsince81 All-American

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    Now let’s take a look at what the numbers say about individual players followed by some opinion. I have left Boyd and Kier out of the discussion because I don’t think either will return next year. Just a hunch, nothing to back it up. Regular season numbers.

    Javon Greene -
    32 minutes per game.
    13.8 points per game.
    5.5 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 40.5%.
    3 point percentage of 34.9%.
    Free throw percentage of 81.1%.
    79 assists.
    93 turnovers.
    6 blocks.
    55 steals.
    Pretty solid numbers although his overall shooting percentage needs to improve. His 93 turnovers is scary bad. He had 48 as a sophomore with similar minutes played. To be a top flight player he’ll need to cut that stat way down. Losing his starting job and being suspended at the end of the year is also a concern. I might expect that from a freshman, not a junior. He had several great games, many solid ones, and a few where he disappeared. If we’re going to improve next year Javon will need to average 15 and 7 while taking care of the ball and being an elite defender. He needs to be more consistent.

    Jordan Miller -
    32.2 minutes per game.
    12.5 points per game.
    5.2 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 44.1%.
    3 point percentage of 33.7%.
    Free throw percentage of 70.5%.
    44 assists.
    58 turnovers.
    5 blocks.
    34 steals.
    A solid sophomore season on all counts in my opinion. He averaged 7.1 boards per game as a freshman so the drop to just over 5 this year was unexpected. He didn’t seem to have the nose for the ball that he had last year. Going forward he’ll need to get stronger. He can be the glue guy on the team that make the whole show work. If he can average 15 and 7 as a junior it will help. I hope he becomes one of the vocal leaders next year.

    AJ Wilson -
    27.5 minutes per game.
    11.8 points per game.
    7.4 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 44.5%.
    3 point percentage of 29.3%.
    Free throw percentage of 60.6%.
    31 assists.
    57 turnovers.
    90 blocks.
    17 steals.
    Like Javon, I think AJ just needs to be more consistent. He dominated some entire games, and parts of others. He also got pushed around and disappeared at times. He made tremendous strides this year. If he is able to improve as much next year it will be huge! He needs to get stronger. If he goes for 15 and 8 consistently next year it go a long way in getting us out of the cellar. Improving his 3 point percentage and free throw percentage could make him elite.

    Jamal Hartwell -
    29.0 minutes per game.
    9.6 points per game.
    1.8 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 38.2%.
    3 point percentage of 31.1%.
    Free throw percentage of 80.0%.
    48 assists.
    38 turnovers.
    0 blocks.
    10 steals.
    Jamal’s minutes almost tripled this year compared to his freshman year. Concerning to me is the drop in his 3 point percentage from last year. Freshman year he shot 44.6% from 3, this year 31%. I will never question his heart, desire, competitive nature, or work ethic. What I can question he has no control over, his size. Jamal is just too small to be an effective 30 minute per game player in the A10. A point guard should be pass first and shoot as a last option. 48 assists in 840 minutes? He did find the time to take 259 shots, 151 of them 3’s. We don’t need Otis 2.0. We need him to shoot less, pass more, and pressure the ball when he is in. If DP continues to play him blindly like he did Otis we’ll pay for it. Again, I respect the young man like crazy. But, size does matter. If Jamal plays less but is more efficient with his production we’ll be better off. I realize this will probably be my most controversial opinion with some on the boards.

    Xavier Johnson -
    29.2 minutes per game.
    7.1 points per game.
    3.5 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 41.4%.
    3 point percentage of 22.0%.
    Free throw percentage of 73.6%.
    76 assists.
    66 turnovers.
    1 block.
    41 steals.
    In my eye XJ had a solid rookie season. He has played with poise and intelligence. He doesn’t seem to get rattled. He’s strong and athletic. He gets to the rim well and can finish with contact. At times this year he shut down our opponents best player on the defensive side of the ball. He has a chance to be a very good player if he can develop his mid range shot and 3 point shot. The league has learned to lay off him and take away the drives to the basket because they don’t respect his outside shooting. Those areas are current weaknesses but can be developed.

    Josh Oduro -
    17.0 minutes per game.
    4.9 points per game.
    4.0 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 48.1%.
    3 point percentage of 15.4%.
    Free throw percentage of 61.4%.
    10 assists.
    32 turnovers.
    24 blocks.
    9 steals.
    Josh surprised me. I saw him play in high school and was not impressed. If he hits the weight room like a madman and gets stronger with his upper body he has the potential to develop into a fine post player. He’s never going to be a rim rattling, high flying dunker but he can be productive. If he improves his footwork on defense and goes for 8 and 5 next year it will be a positive step.

    Greg Calixte -
    13.2 minutes per game.
    2.9 points per game.
    3.3 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 60.3%.
    Did not attempt a 3.
    Free throw percentage of 31.6%.
    13 assists.
    23 turnovers.
    10 blocks.
    8 steals.
    I’m sure Greg is a fine young man. He seems to represent the university well. He can grab the occasional rebound and score near the rim when put in the right position. Bottom line though, he really hasn’t shown much growth since his freshman year and I don’t expect him to contribute much next year either. I can see him being passed over by Malik Henry rather quickly.

    Goanar Mar -
    15.0 minutes per game.
    2.2 points per game.
    2.0 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 29.5%.
    3 point percentage of 7.7%.
    Free throw percentage of 75.0%.
    17 assists.
    23 turnovers.
    7 blocks.
    11 steals.
    Goanar remains one of the biggest mysteries in the history of Mason basketball. His early freshman success, Sophomore injuries, and struggles since have been well documented and discussed on the boards. Nobody wants to see him return to form more than yours truly. I just don’t see it happening. His contribution next year should be minimal.

    Jason Douglas-Stanley -
    4.7 minutes per game.
    1.1 points per game.
    .5 rebounds per game.
    Field goal percentage of 18.5%.
    3 point percentage of 23.8%.
    Free throw percentage of 75.0%.
    4 assists.
    2 turnovers.
    0 blocks.
    2 steals.
    The game just needs to slow down for him. I had high hopes that he would become the zone breaking stud that we have needed. It hasn’t happened yet. Will he transfer and look for another option? Don’t know. Will he hang around and suddenly click like Ike Tate did his senior year? Can’t predict that either.

    The Incoming Freshmen - I hope they are highly skilled and elite level A10 players from day one. Am I confident that will be the case? Not given DP’s track record of recruiting. Will Kolek be the pure shooter we so desperately need? Will Polite be ready to contribute on both sides of the floor? Will Henry be another athletic big who can give us a better inside presence? I sure as hell hope so. In year 6 of a program though we shouldn’t be looking to freshmen to save a season. They should be learning in practice and playing minimal minutes. Unless they are absolute studs contributions should begin their 2nd year. We’ve never had that model under DP.

    Coach DP - The bottom line is that we are destined for a similar finish next year if people don’t improve A LOT. I hope DP considers making some changes on both ends of the floor. I hate the handoff at the top of the key on offense. It allows one defender to guard two of our guys. I would love to see more movement with quick, crisp passing. We don’t have anyone that can take their man off the dribble on a consistent basis. Why play like we do? He has said he wants to play inside out, but I have seen little evidence that we’ve actually tried to do so. The lob over the top inbound play drives me nuts and it’s the only one he has run all year. He can’t be more creative than that? We pseudo press but don’t trap out of it or get many turnovers out of it. It kills me when we switch on defense and Jamal ends up guarding a 5 on the post. Some here claim that DP is a great x’s and o’s guy. Sorry, I just don’t see it. It took him 4 years to admit that he needs bigger, stronger, more athletic players. Learning curve a little short Dave? Or is he just stubborn? MAJOR improvement from the coaching staff is needed in terms of identifying A10 talent and fitting strategy to the strengths of the players if things are ever going to change. Who the F are you 81 to make such claims? Well, I did coach at the varsity level in Fairfax County for 10 years. I have some knowledge of the game.

    Discuss.
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  2. CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY

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    Who had Xavier averaging 29 mpg? I was high on him, and had him at 15 tops!

    That really tells you all you need to know.
  3. sleeperpick

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    kid was good and Hartwell was sometimes really bad. That also helps his minutes increase IMO
  4. mkaufman1

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    I think Kier being hurt, and Hartwell being sick probably caused XJ to play a lot more minutes too. That said the kid also outplayed Hartwell a lot even when Hartwell was healthy.

    Hoping minutes can balance out next year.
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    I know everyone is not that impressed by Calixte. It’s not always pretty, but even in limited minutes he’s putting the ball in the basket 60% or better last two years. No one else is close to that.

    Why haven’t we figured out ways to get him the ball in favorable positions? Just a thought.


    Edit: Greg is actually above 60% all three years he has played.
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  6. GMUgemini

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    I think it's because the majority of the time he scores it's because he has slipped in behind the defense and gets the ball wide open for a layup. If he has to put the ball on the floor and make a move to the basket, he's probably not going to score.

    He would be great for the pick and roll situation if he worked on his hands and his teammates could rely on him to catch the ball on the move. He does put the ball up quick when he gets it (this is his super power). We could probably get him 3-4 easy looks at the basket per game that way.
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  7. smccart5

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    Unfortunately i think an optimistic outlook is that everyone improves a LOT and we finish between 5th-7th next year in the A10. We just have no threats on offense. No perimeter threat at all, and no real post threat.

    We need Oduro to take a BIG step next year, Wilson (to stay) and gain consistency, and we need SOMEONE to be a 3 point shooter.

    Basically w'ere hoping for a switch to flip in a couple guys heads.
  8. gmujim92

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    No offense but this is laughably false. Needing more of X does not equate to “We don’t have any.”
  9. tblack33

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    I think that it’s more of we need more consistency in all of the above than having none/needing more. The baseline seems to be there, they just rarely put it all together at the same time or on a consistent basis.

    Looking at the roster I’m not seeing where the minutes are going to come from for anything new to come in from next years class unless someone not named Boyd or Kier transfers/doesn’t come back.
  10. GMU_DCU

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    So will DP look at adding transfers if we have some scholarships open up or did the Reuter fiasco completely sour him on that idea?
  11. mkaufman1

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    I agree with the consistency or needing more. They definitely need Greene to take the next steps forward as an overall player and really cut down on his turnovers. As a rising senior he should be improving his all around game and be towards his peak.

    As far as the 4 freshman go, I can see Henry/Kolek/Polite helping to balance out minutes. Instead of Hartwell and XJ running 35 a game, maybe they reduce it a bit. I think Kolek and Henry are definitely going to play some, but it’ll probably be small minutes unless they perform really well.

    A wild card in my opinion is Kier coming back. If Kier comes back I see much more of a divide of minutes especially at the 1-2 spots. Polite probably falls into a 5-10 minute a game role if Kier is around. This is also assuming health. I don’t think anyone had XJ at 35 mins a game this year.

    The other wild card is Daddy. I have no clue what to expect from him, but I heard he grew a bit. If he can provide some depth/length/athleticism at the 2/3/4 spots that can also be a good thing.

    There’s just so many questions for the team next year and the program as a whole, that I can’t have much in terms of expectations. Once we learn what Kier and or Boyd are officially doing, that’ll help.
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  12. tblack33

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    Yeah I’ll be really interested to see how we allocate minutes to start the season next year, with or without our two possible injury red shirts. Daddy is a huge wildcard in this, I’m not sure where his minutes come from. Maybe he plays third fiddle behind Miller and Javon?

    I can see XJ dropping down to 30 a game and some of those minutes getting split between Kolek/Polite. Maybe they redshirt one of them, who knows.

    I don’t see where Maliks minutes will come from next year unless AJ leaves or Gonar plays 0 a game.
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    All that being said my expectations are still NCAA or bust next year. Who knows, maybe it all falls together and finally works.
  14. mkaufman1

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    I’d be hard pressed to believe this is an NCAA quality team next year, but stranger things can happen. If everything goes wrong, whats to say there isn’t a year where everything goes right?
  15. gmujim92

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    I see Malik taking minutes from Goanar and Greg and being the third big in rotation with Oduro and AJ.

    Malik is obviously skinny but playing him with AJ is intriguing from an athleticism standpoint.

    Same goes for Polite. He is explosive in a way that only XJ offers among our guards.
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  16. CHRISTOPHER JAMES JOLLAY

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    We could be an NCAA team next year, we just have more "what ifs" than most teams that are actually closer to making said tournament...

    The main reason we aren't an NCAA Tournament team is because we have lacked a star or anything close in DP's tenure. So, develop one, or at least a slight level down from one (Campbell, Long) and we have a chance. Next year? I mean, it's possible, though I don't expect it.

    I think Polite could be one, but it won't be next year. Kier comes back, not out of the question he could be. Other than that best case scenario is probably just a fairly deep team of okay to above average players--NIT, at best with even that unlikely.
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  17. gmujim92

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    I feel like AJ is poised to become a star next year. My only question is whether he’ll do it in a Mason uniform.
  18. sleeperpick

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    But what about him not being able to transfer?
  19. gmujim92

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    Dude ... let it go already.
  20. sleeperpick

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    Was asking if you heard new info. You were certain last time and now seem uncertain. I know nothing. So why the change?

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