Welcome to MasonHoops.com

Jump in to the discussion! Sign up is easy, we want to hear what you have to say!

Sign Up

Offseason A10 Recruiting/Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by mkaufman1, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. Mason2005

    Mason2005 Starter

    Likes Received:
    884
    Trophy Points:
    1,340
    I think Paulsen calls him Boo Boo.

    Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
  2. gmujim92

    gmujim92 Hall of Famer

    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    7,840
    I know I see this situation much differently than most of you, but if our coaches like a guy enough to offer one of 13 scholarships, I couldn’t care less about the opinion of a recruiting “analyst” who probably had seen the kid play once (if at all).

    Especially now that the roster isn’t shorthanded and the staff no longer has to take fliers on kids, I trust their ability to find and sign unselfish, coachable kids who fit what they’re trying to do at a championship level.

    This is why Dave chose to build with 4-year players instead of transfers and JUCOs. It can take longer to get going, but you don’t have the huge dropoff in performance because one class builds on the next.
  3. Cedric Dempsey

    Cedric Dempsey Sixth Man

    Likes Received:
    254
    Trophy Points:
    440
    Location:
    B1G Country
    I’m not. Eight of his 12 rostered players have played one season or less in the A10. How do you come to the conclusion DP needs to recruit “better” players? Define better for us.
    gmujim92 likes this.
  4. Herndon

    Herndon Starter

    Likes Received:
    822
    Trophy Points:
    1,320
    Paulsen has demonstrated (in my opinion) that he is at least a middle of the road A-10 coach. That combines coaching, recruiting, development, all of it.

    After some amount of time, you are what your record says you are, two consecutive .500 years in conference is enough track record for me.

    I don't know if he is better than that, but I feel comfortable saying he is no worse. This past season was played entirely with Paulsen players, so there is no credit (as it were) due to Hewitt, IMO.

    This next season will be played with a roster full of Paulsen players who have received a full cycle of development, so I am of the belief that it will likely be a good barometer of where the program is likely consistently reside under Paulsen.
    gmutom likes this.
  5. Herndon

    Herndon Starter

    Likes Received:
    822
    Trophy Points:
    1,320
    FWIW, I still consider ODU as "my" primary rival. I know, JMU. I know, VCU. I know, GW. I know.

    Knowing all that doesn't stop me from hating all men with mustaches to this day. It doesn't stop me from watching videos where hunters kill lions and feeling a little bit glad about it. It doesn't stop me from my life quest of never setting foot in Norfolk. It doesn't stop me from rooting against whatever NBA team Kent Bazemore is on.

    F ODU. Here's hoping they all catch face cancer.
    gmubrian likes this.
  6. Joe Shannon

    Joe Shannon All-Conference

    Likes Received:
    1,704
    Trophy Points:
    2,840
    Location:
    Fairfax, VA
    Um... better players that would make us a perennial top 25 team or higher. Players that will potentially end up in the NBA.

    Do you think we are recruiting the caliber players to compete with the top programs in the Country on a consistent basis? Even if in the best case scenario our guys are the best in the A10 this year and the next several, we are still certainly a notch below the ACC, right?

    Confused as to what is hard to understand about what better means. It means... better. Taller, faster, stronger, more athletic, more developed when they arrive, etc.

    And this is in NO way a knock on our current players, I love all of our guys and Otis will go down as one of my all time favorites.
  7. gmujim92

    gmujim92 Hall of Famer

    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    7,840
    Nobody in the A-10 consistently recruits top-25 caliber talent. That’s one reason the league is so competitive, the recruiting tends to be cyclical.

    If we’re gonna expect the staff to recruit on that level, our fan base is gonna need to step up its game significantly (possible) and we’ll have to get into a better league (not happening).

    Personally, I’m thrilled with the program’s trend line. We are in very good hands with Dave and Co.
    sleeperpick likes this.
  8. Cedric Dempsey

    Cedric Dempsey Sixth Man

    Likes Received:
    254
    Trophy Points:
    440
    Location:
    B1G Country
    The talent acquisition process is tied directly to program identity, institutional support, institutional identity, conference identity, player development and the overall belief the recruit will be a player in a “perennial top 25 program or higher”. This process is a massive enterprise that goes light years beyond simply finding better talent. Your type of better does not happen over-night nor without complete institutional buy-in. Now, let’s get better.
    gmujim92 likes this.
  9. Joe Shannon

    Joe Shannon All-Conference

    Likes Received:
    1,704
    Trophy Points:
    2,840
    Location:
    Fairfax, VA
    You guys are severely misinterpreting what I'm saying. Only saying we should be recruiting higher level/caliber players in several years after we have success on the court than we currently are. That should be the expectation of nearly every program in the Country except for maybe Duke, UNC, Kansas and Kentucky.
  10. gmujim92

    gmujim92 Hall of Famer

    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    7,840
    Not trying to be argumentative, but by whose standards will we decide whether future players are higher level than our current players?

    I think it’s pretty likely we will be attractive to more HIGHLY RANKED players after we go to the NCAAs and win a game or two, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they will be BETTER than the current guys.
    sleeperpick likes this.
  11. Joe Shannon

    Joe Shannon All-Conference

    Likes Received:
    1,704
    Trophy Points:
    2,840
    Location:
    Fairfax, VA
    Paulsen's standards.
    gmujim92 likes this.
  12. gmujim92

    gmujim92 Hall of Famer

    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    7,840
    Right on.
    Joe Shannon likes this.

Share This Page