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Discussion in 'George Mason Basketball' started by Old Man, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. DJ3

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    Even if that’s true, the anti social students are happier at other schools.
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  2. FreeGunston12

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    I hate that you think the other schools don’t face the same biases in data collection. I hate that George Mason is on the list for consecutive years. I hate that you discount an entire survey based on one experience.
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  3. sleeperpick

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    I hate that I also had a really great time at Mason... but I am not tone def to realize I am one of 35k students at the campus.

    The campus has a sexual assault and Title IX issue that is super prevalent that keeps getting swept under the rug (hell the student body president was a serial predator at one point)

    Many of the "anti-social students" have absolutely nothing to do on a campus that may not be a commuter school anymore but one that is certainly dead on weekends. (not everyone is outgoing enough to join a club sport, greek life or clubs) and honestly the ones we did have were so bland and boring in comparison to other schools.

    The more liberal outspoken students on campus hate the fact that multiple departments are funded by Koch brothers and that the law school is named for Scalia (I couldn't give a shit either way)

    Campus is extremely hideous (I understand the need for construction but I get other people's opinions)

    I, like Patsby and Pikapps son had an amazing 4 years at Mason.... but a LOT of people clearly don't and I just hate the "well I had a good time so that means everyone else must have" copout that has been stated twice on here...

    BTW Auld Shebeen sucks (#bringbackBDubs)
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  4. GSII

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    I hate that the happiness survey was conducted with only posters from this message board.
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  5. Pikapppatri8

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    I hate that people complain but don’t come up with any ideas to address any issues they have (eg, free beer Friday’s, Brazilian topless cleaning ladies for the dorms, or making Mason Day a quarterly event.)

    I hate the fact that people might be more unhappy now versus the years Mason was never on this list because newer students reflect the weakening of American youth. I hate to think with a newer larger on campus population wit brand new recreational and dining facilities that previous - and happier - Mason students never had these newbies still find a way to complain.

    I hate that Mason has robots delivering ducking food directly to these lazy SOB students and they still complain.

    I hate that the Princeton Review survey team properly dropped all their surveys off to the Vegetarian Transgender INCEP field hockey club thus skewing the results.


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    The deadness of the campus starting Thursday night is a legit concern. I was an out of state student (from Florida) and couldn’t just go home on the weekends (instead, I made homes out of my roomate’s and other friend’s parents’ houses while I was there.
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    I hate that you don’t seem to understand that the generation of the students at Mason is the same generation of the students at every other college to which they are being compared in this study. Face it, we have a cultural problem. Why? I don’t know. But it is even reflected in these boards all the time. I am one of the first to shoot back at overly-negative posters that seem to enjoy spreading misery. But the university needs to acknowledge this problem (internally) and take it seriously.

    Unhappy students become unhappy alumni (or transfers/drop outs) that don’t donate or go to basketball games or promote the Mason brand.
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  8. The Great PATSby

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    Some big contributing factors...that I hate:

    Not having football. That’s 6 tailgate/game day events we don’t have.

    High percentage of commuter students that still live with their parents. I’d hate life too.

    We probably have a high number of non-traditional students relative to the national average. They’re most likely not to be highly involved and connected.

    Mason has 26k undergrad students. We average 3,500-4000 freshman a year. Subtracting transfers and drop outs, that means around 40-50% of the entire student population transferred in, mostly from NOVA. A student is mostly likely going to get better connected who enrolled freshman year and lived on campus.

    High cost of living and limited options to live off-campus (near the university) causes students (who live with other students) to be disbursed... which only even further reduces the student campus presence on the weekends. Imagine if Fairfax was more of a college town and all the surrounding houses and streets were nothing but college students. There would a lot more bangers for sure.

    Greek life is the biggest social scene, however the school won’t invest in them and minimally support them and often out to get them.
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  9. Pikapppatri8

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    I hate no one states what these cultural problems would be? We were no where on this list from like 2009-2017 what changed between then and 2018-2019?


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    I hate that you made such excellent points. The 40-50% transfer in rate from primarily NOVA is the biggest problem. I am guessing those transfers have very little attachment to the school.

    That the stated goal of 45,000 students eventually means more of the same semi-open admissions and continued construction. And speaking of construction, the fact that the entire middle of campus is fenced off for construction contributes to the ugly campus ranking and the unhappy students.

    The modern campus look is fine (except for some real stinkers), but there needs to be some traditional campus area where students can be reminded that they are on a campus and not a business park. The trend at other universities seems to be returning to timeless, traditional campus buildings. How many new modern buildings today will look like the horrible 70s and 80s designs?
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  11. The Great PATSby

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    What Mason needs to do is reduce the out of state tuition. I bet we would get a lot more students applying and enrolling if we lowered it. At 36K, Mason is relatively high compared to other VA schools. Tech - 31K, JMU - 28K, ODU - 29K, CNU - 27K. Out of state students are highly involved and active because they actually choose to be there.
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  12. Pikapppatri8

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    I hate that reasoned solutions don't hit this thread until late.
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    I hate that the likely answer as to why Mason's out-of-state tuition is higher than the others is due to some state requirement on how to calculate the price.
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    I hate that we have not gotten a commit yet for 2020 for a 6'9 or 6'10 big man!
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  15. The Great PATSby

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    I hate that too. Probably because there's not that many unhappy 6'9'' + basketball players out there that want to come to an unhappy school.
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    I hate that this survey has really gotten you down, bro. It's not that serious.
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  17. Walter

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  18. DJ3

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    I hate the offseason!
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  19. phoenix-arizona

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    I hate that GMU can't take a trial decade in which the university drops baseball, softball, lax, and adds FCS football to see if that changes the campus atmosphere. If it doesn't work, no harm, no foul.
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    I hate that this idea is no where near Title IX compliant but wish we would just say f*ck it. Let’s do it. We would need to cut 3 men’s programs and probably add a women’s team. I’d propose cutting men’s golf, tennis, and swimming while adding field hockey. Zero chance that would happen though.
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