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Gameday Experience

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by GSII, Mar 2, 2015.

  1. tarvis614

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    your guess is as good as mine. scrape some extra savings out of it, make the cut seem more fair to the cheer squad, just felt like it. could be any or all of those or something completely different.
  2. JBiggs

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    Everyone's a dedicated warrior on the internet.
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  3. MasonFanatic

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    Do the Masonettes really cost that much?
  4. Pablo

    Pablo Hall of Famer

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    http://masonhoops.com/board/threads/gameday-experience.895/page-21:

    "If they had done any research at all, they would have found that the Masonettes’ budget has been $5,000.00 every year since 1992."

    As I've said, if the Masonettes are willing to self-finance their trips to the National Championship, then they should be permitted to do so. And, if the cheerleaders are willing to do the same (including paying the insurance premiums), then they should be allowed to do so also.
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  5. KAOriginal

    KAOriginal All-Conference

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    I am confused.

    I would assume in this age of "War Against Women" that it would be applauded not to have young women having to perform simulated and sexualized dance moves in form fitting clothing to the enjyment and cheers of a largely male audience.
  6. GMUgemini

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    You sure about the audience demographic for these competitions?
  7. MasonCrew

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    Neither group were particularly hot, unfortunately. In many ways this was a negative Gameday experience for me, which has led me to believe that Brad does in fact read these boards.
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  8. MasonSAE4

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    I can assure you, there is nothing remotely sexually stimulating about the Masonettes.
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  9. GSII

    GSII All-American

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    Back to the issue.....why did he cut their competition at Nationals? Insurance cost? Why would there be a seperate insurance cost to just that event that wouldnt be covered otberwise? Its like saying your car insurance will go up if u drive outta state.


    Not giving the Masonettes a bump in their budget since 1992, is not just Brads fault, but also one TOC fault. Of coarse they are going to incur short falls if cost rise and budget doesnt. Something fishy there and a poor excuse.

    Why not find them a sponsor before cutting their events?

    Hopefully more sports are cut that lose money. If Brad does cut, just say why.
  10. Pablo

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    IMO, it's the lack of communication that is causing these problems, and this is why there are currently 2 petitions involving the AD. In these cases, why wasn't a comment period provided for the affected parties? Has the AD yet explained the actions that will be taken to ensure the students will not be adversely impacted when the Cage Gym is renovated and dedicated to the basketball teams? Was the Masonettes ever given the option to self-finance their trips to the National Championship?

    Personally, I have no problem with the business decisions that were made in both cases. But, it appears to me that these business decision have not been appropriately addressed with the affected parties.
  11. Pablo

    Pablo Hall of Famer

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    Currently, 2068 supporters of the petition - http://www.thepetitionsite.com/673/...ional-competition-program-for-the-masonettes/:

    Brian N.
    Oklahoma
    8 days ago

    "The George Mason Dance Program, The Masonette's, has been a tremendous asset to the GMU Athletic program. My daughter Brianna Norwood was a member of the program for 4 years and she along with the other young lady's on the team gained valuable lessons from successful competition at the National level. George Mason's Masonette Dance team has represented GMU extememly well . Young women need professional competitive dance programs like the George Mason Masonettes. It would be sad for the future young women of GMU community and surrounding areas to be denied the opportunity to compete in athletics at the highest level at a great institution. More opportunities for young women in sports are needed, not less. When you have a successful competitive program like the Masonettes keep it going and continue to grow it. My daughter Brianna fell in love with GMU and the Masonettes when she was in elementary school and came to the Mason basketball games to watch her brother play (Gabe Norwood). It was a magic time and the Masonette's were a driving force of support for a team that went to the NCAA Final Four. The professionalism of the Athletic Department was on full display at that time and there were plenty little girls who dreamed of being involved in competitive dance at GMU. My daughter went to GMU and competed in Dance at the National level. I hope that door remains open to others. Thanks for you time and attention to this matter."


    Katie L.
    Virginia
    2 days ago

    "Since it is very obvious now that this is not a financial issue, and the athletic department is trying to take the program in a different direction (in which they have failed to communicate), I will say this. As a former Masonette, I know for a fact that it is extremely possible to serve both the Mason community at games and campus events, and also train for Nationals. The UDA National competition happens during winter break, when games are not happening, so there is no room for anyone to argue that the Nationals experience takes away from Mason events or the game atmosphere. If anything, it ADDS a whole new level of excitement to that atmosphere. The dancers are training hard all year, getting better and better, learning new tricks, and getting into the best shape of their life. Naturally, as the dancers gain talent, the games become more fun because the crowds are excited to see the Masonettes perform. On the contrary, if we take away the opportunity for the team to compete at Nationals, they naturally won't be working as hard. If there is no competition to work towards, it all just becomes fun and games. Have you ever thought about what it would be like if we told the basketball team they weren't allowed any competition, and they had to play scrimmages all year? And if that actually happened, do you think the players would play as well as they do during a championship or a playoff game?"
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  12. GMUgemini

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    Uh, Katie, since when do games not happen during winter break? That's news to me.
  13. DJ3

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    Serious question. Do the majority of fans care about the stunts/performance?
  14. Vurbel

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    How about recruits?


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  15. Patriotsince81

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    I don't, but I am probably in the minority. I go to watch the games period. I could care less about all the other noise. I hope the program gets to the point with attendance where we don't have to market/cater to kids, families, and old farts. A crowd full of elementary kids, Cub Scouts, and seniors who are bothered by noise will hardly strike fear in any opponent. I hate the halftime and time out crap contests. I would love to have a loud, rowdy, knowledgeable, and intimidating crowd. Doubt that will ever happen though.
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  16. sleeperpick

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    saddest part is more than 3/4 of the season ticket holders seem to be in this ^ category. Old farts are way worse than the families IMO. most of the families try and have fun at least
  17. DJ3

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    As we all know college is expensive. It would be nice to have a raffle for free textbooks for a semester for a semester. I'm thinking they draw a ball at one of the timeouts and if your seat number matches the ball you win.

    Or first thousand students receive a coupon for discounted text books.

    Just trying to think outside the box to get more students to the games.
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  18. Vurbel

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    True. I think all of us would prefer a passionate fan base. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be in the cards right now. Probably leftover stinch from the Virus. Anyways, as far as the kids go, during winter break would we rather have kids there or empty seats?
  19. Vurbel

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    We have enough computer geniuses to do this. How about put in a student's ID # (or soc sec #, whatever) and student who attend a certain number of games (10?) then automatically receive a certain amount off books at the bookstore? How many students attend 10+ games already? Besides the Catholic group, that is. Money better spent than hiring the Game Guy from Virginia Lottery once/year.
  20. Vurbel

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    Nobody is debating the work ethic of Masonettes or the athletic ability they have to possess.

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