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Game 23: At UMass (3-7), Sunday, Feb. 9., at 2:30PM.

Discussion in 'George Mason Basketball' started by Patriotsince81, Feb 2, 2020.

  1. mkaufman1

    mkaufman1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Record wise, obviously yes. But in terms of location and league I'd have to think Mason has them beat. I have no clue what their facilities are etc.

    Possibly, although he took 5 years before he was 10-8 in conf then made the NIT in year 6 and the NCAA in year 7. I'd probably say lets wait the year with Dave to see if he can turn it in year 6 (much like Miller did) if that was our option. Plus hes probably on his way to a bigger job at this point.
  2. GMUgemini

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    I think he lost 12 players in 4 years to transfer.
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  3. GSII

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    How do u sleep at night. Another year of this and we are never coming back from the cellar.
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    He's making $318k at Vermont. Program-wise, I'm sure he's comfortable, but he's in a one-and-done conference and could make $750-$800k (if we're willing to shell out that kind of cash) in a multi-bid conference.
  5. GSII

    GSII Hall of Famer

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    WE lost to a bunch of freshman today who also have a shitty coach. At least he can recruit. Jesus.
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  6. tblack33

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    As opposed to our what, like 9 or something along those lines?
  7. tblack33

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    Otis is Paulsens only recruit to graduate so far.
  8. mkaufman1

    mkaufman1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Ok fair point. I was just thinking of how Pete/Dane/Bryson/Aaron were under him/knew him for a long time before being on staff.
  9. mkaufman1

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    I said if that was our option. But in terms of sleeping at night, I sleep with my eyes closed in bed with my wife. :cool:
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  10. GMUgemini

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    If you count the guys who left when he got here:

    Year 0: Lockett, Porter, Jackson, Jackson*, Gilbert*, Holloway$ (x6)
    Year 1: 0
    Year 2: Abram, Dixon, Murrell, Newman, Relvao$, Temara (x6)
    Year 3: 0
    Year 4: Grayer^, Reuter$

    Total: 14

    * decommit
    $ left program
    ^ grad transfer

    Am I missing anyone?
  11. tblack33

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    I think just Reuter last year if you’d count that?
  12. GMUgemini

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    Yeah, he goes on the left the program spot. Can’t believe I forgot him
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    not even close
  14. tblack33

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    Curious how the overall total numbers like you broke them down compare to Paulsen at the end of this year, pretty sure Lonergan was at GW for 5 years? Everyone wants to hate on Lonergan and point at transfers as the measure of failure/shitty behavior but at a glance it looks like we are in a close boat.
  15. JimP

    JimP All-American

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    Did M Kaufman kill someone or something?
  16. mkaufman1

    mkaufman1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Lmao, no GS II basically didn't understand why I said keep Dave around for another year when someone asked about Wes Miller. I said that if Wes Miller was the option or Dave, I'd keep Dave for year 6. Wes Miller took a while to turn things at UNC Greensboro.
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  17. GMUgemini

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    Mike Lonergan:

    2012: Guest
    2013: Davis, Kromah, Pellom
    2014: Reyes, Marakgos, White
    2015: Bryant, Griffin, Savage,
    2016: Crimino, Jorgensen, Swan
    Total: 13

    That's what I could find anyway. So, about the same number, but a stready stream of about 3 transfers out per year. He had 1 or 2 transfers in most years too.
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  18. GMUgemini

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    If you want to look at the transfers in for Lonergan:

    2012: Isaiah Armwood
    2013: Ryan McCoy, Maurice Creek
    2014: Tyler Cavanaugh
    2015: Alex Mitola, Jaren Sina, Patrick Steeves
  19. JimP

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    I drove to Burlington, VT (great town) many years ago to see a GMU season opener vs. Vermont. Great game - Larreanaga coached team pulled it out in OT. Lonergan less than gracious postgame. Quote in the paper the next day basically was Lonergan bemoaning the fact his team had lost to the likes of GMU, as if Vermont was an ACC power or something.

    Wouldn't care about any of that if a guy like him could come in and turn GMU around though.
  20. JimP

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    Ah, I wouldn't lose any sleep over that. Doubt you will, lol.
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