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Game 14: GMU (7-6 / 3-4) at St. Joe’s (1-11 / 0-6) on Saturday at 12:30PM. 2nd Game of Back to Back

Discussion in 'George Mason Basketball' started by Patriotsince81, Jan 21, 2021.

  1. Herndon

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    Well, one one thing we are in FULLLL agreement, which is that Mason is not serious about the A10. If Mason were serious about the A10, and wanted to spend like the big boys, then absolutely I'd expect more.

    We're not, though. We want to spend "meh" money on our basketball program, and we get "meh" results.

    To me, that's what it's REALLY about, because you have to get lucky with a coach. You spend more, you'll win more, more often than not.

    If you have a beef, it should be with the administration, IMO.
  2. Patriotsince81

    Patriotsince81 All-American

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    I would like those that honestly think that DP is the solution to our woes publicly state it here. Who wants to see him return next year or be extended? Positive replies only please.
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  3. GMUgemini

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    The school provided $24.8 million to the athletic department in 2019 (that is outside of ticket revenue, donations, and sponsorship money). And the gap in our spending between us and Richmond is literally Mooney's salary differential (which he got after taking Richmond to the Sweet 16).
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  4. Herndon

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    Right. When we improve fundamentals, then I'll expect improved steady performance. When our fundamentals are in the upper part of the A10, I'll expect upper part of the A10 results. But, until then, it's silly.
  5. mkaufman1

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    I mean Mason got a facility and locker room together for the basketball programs. Sure they half ass things even if they spend more on flights and travel and whatever . But at the end of the day it’s about the product on the court and the coach. That’s how I feel.

    I do have beef with the administration on plenty. If they keep Dave, I’ll have more and let it be very clear.
  6. Herndon

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  7. Herndon

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    You're entitled to your feelings. I just don't think they're supported by the facts.
  8. Patriotsince81

    Patriotsince81 All-American

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    I would like those that honestly think that DP is the solution to our woes publicly state it here. Who wants to see him return next year or be extended? Positive replies only please.
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  9. Herndon

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    If we're .500 this year, or there about, I'm happy to have him back.
  10. GMUgemini

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    So, the fact that Davidson spend over a million less on Basketball than we do and are by far and away much better of a program is fine with you? St. Bonaventure also spends less than we do. I think one of the things you have to keep in mind is we are in a conference with all private schools and so their scholarships are more expensive than ours are.

    We're also bottom four in athletic expenses...so technically we should get more bang for the buck for our dollars (speaking of which, Davidson and St. Bonaventure's expenses are less than ours. La Salle rounds out the bottom four). Most expensive schools: UMass, Fordham, Dayton, and GW).
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  11. Herndon

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    Again, somebody flipping five heads in a row has exactly zilch to do with what we should expect when we flip a coin five times.

    And....we have low athletic expenses because we don't spend money. That's how that works.
  12. Herndon

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    Weird Stat: Daddy went 3/4 from the stripe today, despite going into the game 0/12 for his career.
  13. PoorManProfit

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    yeah the head coach guzzles DMD as part of his fitness plan...
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    PoorManProfit All-Conference

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    No wonder this program is a joke and people laugh...
  15. gmujim92

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    With all due respect, your attitude is Exhibit A of what is wrong with the Mason fan base.

    No fan — short for “fanatic” — should ever be content with year after year of nothing better than mediocre crap.
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  16. tblack33

    tblack33 All-Conference

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    Nothing is fundamentally good, or even fine about Paulsen basketball. We are bottom of the A10 in assists, near the top in turnovers, dead last in free throws, and our offensive and defensive efficiencies are nothing to brag about. The only thing we do well is rebound. So point to me where Dave Paulsen has built a fundamentally sound basketball team.
  17. Patriotsince81

    Patriotsince81 All-American

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    Had St. Joe's made half of their shots around the bucket, today would have been a 10 point loss.
  18. Herndon

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    Fundamentals meaning "the financial and competitive aspects of the basketball program that are off the court". Should have been more clear.
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  19. GMUgemini

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    No, it’s not. Dayton, VCU, and SLU are tops in basketball spending but they aren’t top four in expenses. The fact that GW and Fordham’s scholarships are so much more expensive than ours makes a big difference when calculating budgets.
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  20. Herndon

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    Would you accept winning the A10 but not being competitive against the upper half of the ACC?

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